As a man, have dating sites worked for you? What am I doing wrong?(Updated info)

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Lucius Ivanov

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Eamar said:
Ok, ok. I deleted the "Feelings define me" text and removed the taken advantage of part.
I'm keeping the vampire part. It shows that I have imagination and that I can be creative, as well as my sense of humour.
As for the rest of the description, it's an accurate description of how I am. Before it was to formal and resembled a CV, now it's more personal.

Captcha: She's a witch
Oh captcha.. :)
 

Nosferatu2

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Lucius Ivanov said:
Longing said:
But since I am a vampire fan I and I am actually born in Transylvania, I made that little story.
So would you like get where I got this name? Just curious.

On topic I have never been on a dating sight. But even if I did I would likely just put in the description; "You could do better."
 

Lucius Ivanov

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From Vampire The Masquerade? There is a clan called Nosferatu, I'm more inclined towards the clan Malkavian myself =P.
The Nosferatu movie from 1922 or the remake The Shadow of the Vampire?
 

mistahzig1

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As a man, it's your FIRST message that will make it or break it.

You want to know what works and what doesn't?

Create a fake girl account with a random picture of a woman who looks like the girl you would be interested in (and the same thing in her hobbies descriptions, etc.) Then, wait for guys to approach "you" and see how they do it. For each message you have, go see their profiles and see if you're interested.


What you'll find out:

90% will have the SAME boring approach like :
"You are pretty"
"I , too love <music style/band name / hobby>"


After 50 similar message, ask yourself if YOU would reply to each and every one of them.

See what I'm getting at? ;oP



oh oh oh.... and NEVER copy/paste the same message you send. Girls have friends on the same site sometimes...


What else? You can use the statistics game a friend of mine uses (he's a shameless skirt chaser though) and it goes like this:

For every 100 messages, you will get 8 replies.
For every 8 replies, you'll meet 3
For every 3 meetings, you'll get 1... you know...

The same principle could work for someone who has "serious relationship" for a goal I guess.

Anyways, good luck!
 

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Lucius Ivanov said:
Nosferatu2 said:
From Vampire The Masquerade? There is a clan called Nosferatu, I'm more inclined towards the clan Malkavian myself =P.
The Nosferatu movie from 1922 or the remake The Shadow of the Vampire?
You where close when you said the movie, but honestly I got the name form the Iron Mask song about the movie.

Because who doesn't like Belgian power metal?
 

Lucius Ivanov

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mistahzig1 said:
I never Copy/Paste messages. And the ones I send are not "You are pretty"/"Hi!"/"Wanna f***?"/"Hey I like X too!" LOL.
I try to use the info they have in their profiles if there is any(I usually skip the ones with little to info).
 

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Never used a dating site myself, I hear from others though that women, and especially fairly good-looking women, get literally hundreds of messages from different men, so even if your profile is good your chances are pretty slim. If you don't send off many messages, maybe consider picking up the pace and not expecting a reply from most?
OKCupid does a lot of interesting analysis on their site data and posts the results.

http://blog.okcupid.com/

This one seems like it's relevant.
http://blog.okcupid.com/index.php/your-looks-and-online-dating/
 

OpiateChicken

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Lucius Ivanov said:
IceStar100 said:
OpiateChicken said:

It's depressing as f***, but that conversation is between me and my psychiatrist =P.
That should be your opening line to every girl.

I will say this first. I going to be honest and I'm not good at surgery coating stuff so if I sound like an ass or I insult I wish to say I'm sorry that not my intent. That goes to anyone reading this.

Now before you start dating you got to get your shit together. Don't worry about it so much that it become a drive. Look around at how many people are 30 have kids and a failed marriage. Don't look for a girlfriend/wife look for a friend.

Now as far as money goes don't worry about it. Go do what you do day to day and look around and see who there. Those are the girls who will be the one who last with you. basically don't have a goal just be you.

The trouble with sites is your working on a picture and a paragraph. OR what someone else think makes a match (eHarmony) Sometimes it happened. The main trouble with dating sites are people are looking for love not looking for people they like. A lot of these girls see all these choices they have and end a relationship for the slightest trouble be cause they think they have endless choices. Or you get the girls reaching 40 and who have hit desperation because we are told we must be married or there something wrong with us. So they move way to fast. That's just some of the girl I have found.

That all said good luck man this is all what life has shown me you might draw a whole new set of card to play. As the saying goes plenty of fish in the sea. I find that some of those fish are sharks and piranhas. Look at it like this why do the day to day guys she meet not want her. There's a reason she had to resort to a dating web site. It may be just luck on where she lives and not a lot of choice.
Just my opinion, but I think your priorities are a bit out of touch. You pretty much need to have a job if you're not in full-time classes somewhere. A lot of NEET people I know say there are no jobs around here, either--but they just mean there are no jobs they LIKE. Bottom line is, fast food places, cleaning services, etc. are always going to have a high turnover rate and lots of staff. If you're desperate for money, there is no shame in working a job like that. You don't need to think of it as a career, or a failing--it is just a job to help you get on your feet and get established, and to help you get closer to your goals.

Speaking of that, if you don't have goals... get some. Even if you're not sure you'll keep them, have them temporarily and work towards them. Girls love it when a guy is working towards something. I can kind of identify with you here a bit because from the ages of about 20-24, I had no idea what I wanted to do at all and was miserable pretty much all the time. Waking up each day and laying in bed without a sense of purpose is severely depressing and takes a lot to get over.

I personally am still working towards my goals and it will be a while before I get there, but I know I can get there if I work hard enough, am persistent enough, and keep improving myself. And when I get it, my career of choice, oh god will it be sweet. But just that feeling of having a drive, a path to follow--that is HUGE and brought me out of any depression I may have been in. And, to get back to the main point, girls will automatically see that attitude in you and be attracted to you just for that. A lot of girls need and want security in their lives and even just having a boyfriend who they believe is going places will stick them to you like a magnet.

Beware though: some of these girls will be leeches and will just use your success to fulfill their own selfish desires, and have no goals or ambitions themselves. They are toxic and will bring you down, and then once you're down they'll leave you for someone else.

The important thing is that, once you've got these goals and are following a defined path towards them, whether that be courses at school, training, apprenticeships, physical training, a language, related experience, whatever--you will have automatically moved up at least one "league", the ones people talk about when they say "she's out of my league". The fact is that when you're driven, you become happier. Happiness leads to confidence and not giving a fuck about small things. Confidence (and hard work) lead to success, and success leads to attractiveness.


First though: you need to either get a job where you are, or find a way to save up a bit of cash, go to Barcelona if need be, and work your way up from there. Once you have a bit of financial freedom you can choose what to do with your relationship time. Relationships are a whole other story, but this post is mainly focused on the attraction component and on getting your shit together.

Good luck
 

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Here's my few cents on it. I'm gonna be blunt and not sugar-coat things, but it's my personal opinion, so take it or leave it.

Male, been online dating for a while, have been successful at it.

For starters, understand that there's nothing wrong with being into gaming, RPGs, anime, etc, but the simple fact is that only a tiny % of women are really interested in that stuff, so right off the bat you're only gonna have a small % with the same interests as you.

You're little intro thing about being from Transylvania (which is awesome, BTW) should be basically this: "Born and raised in Transylvania about, oh, 800 years ago (I forget sometimes), but the locals got tired of me eventually and chased me out. 'Twilight' has really made being a Vampire not cool anymore." Quicker, concise, more of a joking tone to it.

"I feel my own burdens and joys as well as those of others. I feel a great deal, and I also feel misunderstood much of the time. I'm not quite a pushover, but I'm certainly sensitive. Yes, I could cry you a river if the circumstances were right."
I'd pretty much drop anything that says that you're 'misunderstood' or anything that talks about how much you cry.

"Quite happy with being considered hazy, since there's a certain sense of safety in that self-proclaimed netherworld"
This feels like you're trying too hard to sound poetic.

"I am very handy with tools so I often "role play" an electrician, carpenter, mechanic, plumber etc."
I'm not quite sure if you're just messing around here, but being handy is great, but just say "I love fixing problems around the house, whether it be plumbing, electrical, or crafting things out of wood".

Can you put occupation as simply "student"? It just feels unnecessary to say "not working". If you're a full-time student, it's pretty much a given that you're not working a full-time job.

I'd also shave that goatee. Sorry, I just think it looks creepy.
 

Lucius Ivanov

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Ihateregistering1 said:
I'd also shave that goatee. Sorry, I just think it looks creepy
Never! I will never shave completely! I only shave my moustache and trim the rest, have been doing so since high school. I tried shaving once, but I just look weird. Also I can't grow a full beard, so don't mess with what little I have. =D
Facial hair FTW!!(Men only! Oh my.. Damn you brain! That was disgusting!)
 

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Eamar said:
As a woman who uses dating sites, something I often have to point out to guys in your situation is the sheer amount of messages that pretty much every young, vaguely attractive woman gets.

Well, I'd rephrase that to every woman. I know a woman from work who's in her fifties and even she gets bombarded by messages often from guys 20 years younger. Most of its just cut&paste but a lot of it seems genuine. Now she isn't bad looking at all for her age but the amount of attention she gets on dating sites is just ridiculous. Good for a woman's self-esteem I guess? I don't know. My colleague's 'popularity' among much younger guys have now become somewhat of a running gag though, in no small part thanks to herself making fun of it. :p

But yeah b/c of this huge statistical difference as a guy internet dating is pretty much pointless. Ofcourse you can always try but its something to keep in mind.

Pretty sure I've seen a cracked article before about creating the worst online dating profile possible (female of course) and seeing how many people messaged it.

Not only did a lot of people message it, but even bitchy replies didn't dissuade them.

I can see why you'd think it's pointless trying, but if you're struggling to get talking to women physically, or don't get out much or whatever, then online dating isn't pointless. You just have to be able to avoid taking rejection (people not replying) personally.

Let's face it, on the free sites like OKCupid, the worst that happens is you'll waste a bit of time. Best case scenario you could find the woman of your dreams.

To answer the OPs question:

I've had a bit of luck with online dating in the past. I've not been massively popular but I've had an alright amount of replies. I do tend to get ignored more often than not, however, and I don't send crude messages or what have you.

The 'secret' of online dating is persistence. Not with the same woman though. Don't harass someone, of course.
 

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Lucius Ivanov said:
Ihateregistering1 said:
I'd also shave that goatee. Sorry, I just think it looks creepy
Never! I will never shave completely! I only shave my moustache and trim the rest, have been doing so since high school. I tried shaving once, but I just look weird. Also I can't grow a full beard, so don't mess with what little I have. =D
Facial hair FTW!!(Men only! Oh my.. Damn you brain! That was disgusting!)
That's kinda why I said shave it, it looks like you're trying to grow a beard but not succeeding, and that generally looks worse than just being clean shaven.