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Axle_Bullitt_19

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If by some way you find out the person you pulled over is in the military do you cut them some slack. My father is in the military and he has mastered the trick of "acidently" dropping his military ID when he goes for his drives license.
 

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coxafloppin said:
How often do you play good cop, bad cop?
It works a lot better than you think it would. I usually had to do the bad cop because of my size. (Even though I was a much nicer guy than my partner.) Though when real cops do it it's much more subtle. One offers you water the other one asks all the questions.

baseracer said:
Have you ever been in any kind of warrant action (breaking down doors, quickly searching the house?)
I used to work vice so a lot more often than I care to admit but usually all I did was brief the swat team and watch them do their thing. It's a lot scarier than you'd think. Especially since there is always ALWAYS other people besides the perp inside.
 

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My favourite thread. It is reborn! I suppose I should ask something this time...

Has your name ever lead to any interesting/amusing outcomes while in the line of duty with a suspect of fellow officer?

I thought that's not to bad considering your named after the god of thunder 'n' all. (I better have the right person here...)
 

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ace_of_something said:
Guitar Gamer said:
how normal is it for someone to ask you what seems to be the officer: problem? what seems to be the problem officer? every instance that I have heard or seen the person pulled over says that
It's usually only middle aged middle classed white folks that say that. Something about that phrase has always 'grinded' me wrong though. I must prefer a simple 'hello sir'. It is better than 'why the fuck did you pick me!?' that some people give. Such rudeness does not go over well for them usually.
sooooooo don't piss the officer off......right *jots down on note pad*
and what is the worse cop police officer related insult that you have benn called
 

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How often do your morals/common sense conflict with your job?

I know obeying orders is part of the formation and all, but it pisses me off to no end when people pull the "just doing my job", "just following orders" line.

How are people supposed to treat cops like humans when they're allowed and asked to behave like robots...
 

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The87Italians said:
what kind of training did you have to go through to become an officer?
it's 14 weeks of intense training 50 hours a week. Tests, protocol, law knowledge, emergency preparedness, self defense, getting hit alot, and running. Lots and lots of running. For being a C/O it's much less intense it's mostly behavior management, verbal judo (the art of getting someone to do what you want by making them feel like they're in control) and of course self defense and sprinting training.


Shadow of The East said:
Have you ever used dogs? If so, how effective did you find them?
I have never been a dog handler though I've seen them used many times as I used to work Vice. They are incredibly effective at finding narcotics though most dogs are trained to find ONE type either cocaine, mj, some departments have dogs that can sniff out gunpowder (bullets) in the ATF. (who i worked with a couple times) even better are the attack dogs. You'll have chased a perp for miles and miles to have him hiding in a ditch with brush. You know he's got a gun.
"Come out or we'll shoot!"
"Fuck you!" (here he may or may not fire his gun)
the same guy
"Come out or we're sending the dogs in!"
you than see his gun fly out of the brush and on to the ground and he comes out with his hands behind his head saying "no dog! no dog!"

Me? I think i'd rather be (non-fatally) shot than have the dogs on me. So I can't say I blame them.
 

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mlkjhgfds said:
How often do your morals/common sense conflict with your job?

I know obeying orders is part of the formation and all, but it pisses me off to no end when people pull the "just doing my job", "just following orders" line.

How are people supposed to treat cops like humans when they're allowed and asked to behave like robots...
I've tried to answer this three times but the escapist keeps eating my post!

1. Common sense often, it is a government job after all. Mostly in the form of pointless paperwork or needlessly complicated paperwork.

3. 'just doing my job' is more to remind the people you're talking to that it's not personal. You are arresting/ticketing them because they broke the law and it's your job to do as such. It's not because you hate them or anything like that. And sometimes you ARE following orders. The Lt. at the staff meeting says. "We've been getting a lot of complaints about barking dogs. We need to ticket every barking dog call we get if it's confirmed" So you write tickets without giving warnings. People get mad and say "why are you being a dick!?" ... "It's not personal ma'am, I'm just following my orders"
 

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ace_of_something said:
Hate to copy the idea but the asking a Christian and asking a black guy threads were neat so I figured I?d throw mine out there for you.
My qualifications for answering your questions are a BS in the topic of criminal justice, 4 1/2 years of experience on a police force, a brother who is a deputy (they are different) and I am currently working in corrections and have been for about a year and half.

To answer the first obvious question, I?m not a police officer anymore because I was injured off duty, which did not qualify me for a desk job unless you have at least 5 years of seniority? and since it caused nerve damage to my left hand I was unable to pass the yearly marksmanship test. If you want more to the story you?ll have to ask.

You can ask me questions like, things you want to know about police behavior, jail, things about the system. My knowledge from experience is strictly American, but I do have a small amount of knowledge academically of other countries (really small).

edit: and i don't think i should have to say this but... keep it civil please.

edit: got my masers in sociology and a BS in psych now.
Thoughts on vigilantism.
Do you ever wish someone would go around wasting criminals,ie saving taxpayers money on jails,rehabilitation etc.
Have you ever had anyone locked up for mainly killing crims?
 

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Given your experience, did you ever take part in any drug busts? I ask this as a citizen who has had this happen on his street (I was either at school or asleep when it happened, though. The majority of the things I saw about it were filmed in daylight on the news).
 

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McCa said:
My favourite thread. It is reborn! I suppose I should ask something this time...

Has your name ever lead to any interesting/amusing outcomes while in the line of duty with a suspect of fellow officer?

I thought that's not to bad considering your named after the god of thunder 'n' all. (I better have the right person here...)
When I tackled someone a lot of people would phrase it as "dropping the Thor Hammer" or "Mjölnering" if they could pronounce the word. When we're assigned patrol you usually get the same car every day; so car number 78 became my 'chariot' which i claimed had 175 'goat power'.

We have fun.
 

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ace_of_something said:
McCa said:
My favourite thread. It is reborn! I suppose I should ask something this time...

Has your name ever lead to any interesting/amusing outcomes while in the line of duty with a suspect of fellow officer?

I thought that's not to bad considering your named after the god of thunder 'n' all. (I better have the right person here...)
When I tackled someone a lot of people would phrase it as "dropping the Thor Hammer" or "Mjölnering" if they could pronounce the word. When we're assigned patrol you usually get the same car every day; so car number 78 became my 'chariot' which i claimed had 175 'goat power'.

We have fun.
You should have modified what ever weapon you had with all Norse mythology. T'would be pimping. But that does seem awesome. 175 goat power. If that's direct from horsepower. They give you pretty crappy cars don't they? Or am I just out of touch in my middle class world.
 

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Khell_Sennet said:
One thing I feel should be clarified...
ace_of_something said:
Helnurath said:
Is it legal to shoot someone who is trying to mug/rob/carjack you?
1. If you can prove your life is in danger. Yes.
This is very much American law only. Canadian law, even if the person attacking you is armed with his own gun, it is totally illegal for you to shoot an attacker even in self defense. Yes, they would consider the robbery/assault/attempted-murder as mitigating circumstances and thus reduce charges on you, but Canadians do not have legal right to defend themselves. One of the few things making me want to move.
Laws like that are how victims are created.
 

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sneakypenguin said:
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EDIT also since I hav a CCL if I get pulled over do I need to let a cop know i'm carrying? I don't want him to see it and freak out.
Yes, Yes, and a thousand times YES!

I'm not a police officer, but it's generally accepted that officers do not like surprises that come in various calibers. Generally, a police officer can see whether or not a person has a CCL when they run their liscence, and they will ask you, "Are you carrying today?" They may take your weapon (and unload it on some occasions) for the duration of the stop, and give it back to you (sometimes unloaded) after the stop is over.

In my experience, the police will like you a LOT more if you tell them there is a weapon either in the car or on you, tell them where it is, and let them hold onto it while they are doing their job. If you have done nothing other than speed, you will get it back quickly (assuming that your CCL is valid in your location).

NEVER try to hand it to them unless they instruct you to do so!!!
 

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eels05 said:
Thoughts on vigilantism.
Do you ever wish someone would go around wasting criminals,ie saving taxpayers money on jails,rehabilitation etc.
Have you ever had anyone locked up for mainly killing crims?
Hmm, as cool as Boondock Saints makes it look it's a terrible idea. Every American even though dumb ones who don't deserve it through their sickening actions deserve the due process. Unlike the movies the conviction rate in this country is actually fairly high. What annoys me more is people pleading out for lesser charges... Well, technically speaking MOST murder victims are criminals. I cannot remember the statistic exactly but something like 67-76% of all murders are gang on gang, or criminal retaliation. When a gang banger gets his drugs stolen he then decides to beat the shit out of a rival gang member's girlfriend than the response is to kill the guy who beat up the girlfriend and so on. Omertà is vigilantism in the legal sense.

Magnatek said:
Given your experience, did you ever take part in any drug busts? I ask this as a citizen who has had this happen on his street (I was either at school or asleep when it happened, though. The majority of the things I saw about it were filmed in daylight on the news).
Well, I worked vice so... yeah about 3 dozen or so. If you mean 'kick in the door' type busts like in the movies. Only 2 or 3 and since I was a detective in Vice I didn't actually do all that much besides brief the SWAT Team. More often it's a set up where we (the police) sell or buy drugs from someone and they than get arrested shortly thereafter. We tend not to waste too much time with users. Dealers are the name of the game. If we think someone is a small fry then we'll bust them and pump them for information until they let us know where someone more important is and then charge them with something much less (or not at all). Dealers are a cancer on the world...

Shortly before I left I began working on a rather large drug ring case with ATF and FBI which just now three years later was wrapped up they caught 29 guys. (and 6 more they are trying to figure out how to get mexico to give to us to prosecute) It involved shipping drugs from mexico all across the midwest. It was a huge headache and clusterfuck. Chances are I will STILL have to testify in court since I was there when the case began even though I have very little idea what's going on at this point.