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ace_of_something

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bue519 said:
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Thanks for an the informative answer and yes I did win the case. (Judge threw it out of court) I just find it unfair that I had to pay so much money just to get it thrown out. Do you think that by holding them responsible and maybe having the court pay part of the lawyers would maybe make police less likely to commit such actions?
Hmm while that idea sounds good on paper it's one of those 'slippery slope' things. Making cops too apprehensive about doing any part of their jobs might make them not do it when they really should. Chances are if it was found illegal by idiocy the cop just feels like a dummy and learns from their mistake. If it was found immoral the cop will be expecting a call from internal affairs (the cops who investigate cops)
 

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Thanks for that... Im going to leave America now for completely unrelated reasons.

I got another one.

How many firearms can a person own?
Is there like a number where cops/government would say "thats too many, arrest him"?
 

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In my area police officers cruisers are allowed a M4 with 2 clips in the trunk. Are (were) you issued high firepower in you cruiser.

Also has your force received new vehicles. In my area our police force got about 20 Dodge Chargers!
Fun fact: most of the cops I see in those are speeding :D
 

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stormcaller said:
As a man of the law do you get annoyed when we make all those horrible jokes about mass-murder and such?
Most law enforcement officials have horribly black senses of humor. I am one of them. However, I do really hate rape jokes. Having formerly been the first responder to rape scenes I can say it's one of the most horrible things a human being can do to another and it's not fucking funny in any way. (and also having had friends who were raped and this http://www.escapistmagazine.com/forums/read/18.78482?page=2#980485 )

Murder though; that's hilarious.
I recall being the first on scene to a shooting The guy was shot in the temple a very close (but not point blank) range the detective turned over the body the eyes were gone blown out the other side of his head he looks at me and says "Well son, now this is bad; this guy is gonna be blind for the rest of his days."
Hmm. I guess you had to be there to find the humor in it.

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"Excuse me what seems to be the officer, problem?"

Have you ever heard of someone actually using that line when pulled over for D.U.I?
Yes... pretty sure they weren't doing it on purpose though. I've had perfectly sober people do that to. Something about stern faced 6'6" cop just intimidates people. (i can't help that my face is like that, i'm really very friendly)
 

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Thanks for that... Im going to leave America now for completely unrelated reasons.

I got another one.

How many firearms can a person own?
Is there like a number where cops/government would say "thats too many, arrest him"?
More a question for the ATF but as far as I know if they are legally registered and you yourself have a very clean criminal record you can have as many as you want. I live in the midwest and it's not uncommon for someone to have umpteen rifles and shotguns in their house.

Unregistered? Holy crap be careful every unregistered gun can be it's own federal charge.
 

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Does prison rape actually happen frequently? If so, would it be possible to sue the prison for.. failure to prevent it or something?

Also, did you commit crimes while you were an active officer, like speeding or downloading pirated movies, and did you have any moral or guilt related feelings towards this?
 

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Frank_Sinatra_ said:
In my area police officers cruisers are allowed a M4 with 2 clips in the trunk. Are (were) you issued high firepower in you cruiser.

Also has your force received new vehicles. In my area our police force got about 20 Dodge Chargers!
Fun fact: most of the cops I see in those are speeding :D
We mostly had souped up Taruses (cheap!) but if a drug-dealer or something had his assests siezed we often would get his car and convert it which has lead to a very eclectic selection of a dozen or so cruisers. I often was assigned a converted jeep because I am very tall and it was one of the few cruisers i could ride comfortably in. I'm not a big car fanatic so I wouldn't be able to tell you what's under the hood but the gear heads assured me they were all barely street legal and that the city dumpped a lot of money into them.
At the jail we drive child molester vans to take inmates to the hospital (a white van with no windows)
 

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How often do riots pop up?
Is it true what they say about the soap?
In a jail? It's only happened once in the two years I've been there. It was in a mod about 20 people beating the crap out of each other. We just fill the mod with pepper spray run in with gasmasks and handcuff everyone. Then get accused of 'brutality'.

What they say about the soap is not true; mostly because very few jails/prisons have the open communal showers anymore (they're not space efficient) Usually they're stalls with no doors. That and people that rape in jail/prison are likely to get killed eventually.

implodingMan said:
Does prison rape actually happen frequently? If so, would it be possible to sue the prison for.. failure to prevent it or something?

Also, did you commit crimes while you were an active officer, like speeding or downloading pirated movies, and did you have any moral or guilt related feelings towards this?
No it doesn't. It's very rare. Almost non-existent in jails. Prisons however; There were problems in isolated pockets of the country until about 2003ish. Thanks to the Prison Rape Elimination Act by former president G.W. Bush. Correctional facilities identify and remove potential predators and victims. Many have tried to sue for that but few have won.

I have never illegally downloaded anything that I know of. Speeding? Pssh all the time, I even got ticketed a once. No one really feels guilty for light speeding (5-10 mph over) especially in this part of the country where if you're not going about 5 or 10 over you're considered a dangerous slowpoke.



Here's a bootylicious link for those inquiring about the problem.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prison_Rape_Elimination_Act_of_2003
 

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If there is something in the evidence room can you take it if you want it.
No, it's evidence. In larger departments the evidence locker is a tightly controled storage area that only special detail officers may enter. It's their whole job to catagorize, keep clean, keep records of, and keep secure that area. In smaller departments it's usually something you have to log if you're entering or exiting and what you put in or took out you'd probably have to fill out a form to get the keys too.

Taking things from there would also cost you your job and likely get you a felony charge of 'evidence tampering'.
 

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Ever been on guard duty? If so, how does that work in America?

I'm a security guard and slightly curious.
 

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Have you ever needed to deal with someone like this?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9cdexPCtpj0
See below...
 

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link670 said:
Have you ever needed to deal with someone like this?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9cdexPCtpj0
Rephrase: Have you ever pulled someone over or something like that and had them do something stupid
Edit: Damn meant to edit and hit quote by mistake.
 

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ace_of_something said:
ae86gamer said:
If there is something in the evidence room can you take it if you want it.
No, it's evidence. In larger departments the evidence locker is a tightly controled storage area that only special detail officers may enter. It's their whole job to catagorize, keep clean, keep records of, and keep secure that area. In smaller departments it's usually something you have to log if you're entering or exiting and what you put in or took out you'd probably have to fill out a form to get the keys too.

Taking things from there would also cost you your job and likely get you a felony charge of 'evidence tampering'.
that sucks. i always thought that cops would take weed and got high with the police dogs. Now that funny vision in my head is no more.
 

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Combined said:
Ever been on guard duty? If so, how does that work in America?

I'm a security guard and slightly curious.
You mean like a security detail when say; the president comes in town? No, on our dept. you had to have a higher rank to be allowed such sweet sweet easy overtime pay. Or do you mean say like hanging around an urban movie theater on Fridays cuz they've been having problems with people starting fight in the lobby? Yes, it sucks it's boring as hell.

If you mean moonlighting. It depends completely on the department's regulations ours you had to request permission and you weren't allowed to wear your uniform but you could still use arresting authority and all that.
 

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I would have to ask how do you like being a Jailer overall in terms of your chain and your bosses treatment overall, I just got into being a Residential Supervisor myself at a community corrections center so wondering how your senior staff treat you and if there is any difference.
 

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Ok, here is a question, how likely would you be to 'turn a blind eye' to a minor infraction by someone who was helping you. For instance, you've gone to interview some guy who has information on a series of burglaries, and has volunteered to assist the investigation, feeling he has good evidence, and when you get there, you notice he's left out an ashtray with the remains of a spliff. (consider for this example that's a minor offence)

Would you let it pass as he's being a 'good citizen' for volunteering to assist the police, or would it be your duty to nail him too? OR perhaps would you offer a quiet warning instead? Personally I'd let it pass, as the last thing I'd want to do is create a feeling that helping the police would get me analysed for criminal behaviour.

To comment on the previous posts tho, and to commend you, I'd have to say, I remember being a teen and having a 'metal' jacket, demin covered in patches and metal studs, chains and spikes, etc.

Now I'd get stopped and searched a LOT by the police, although they never found anything, because I never had anything, heh. Never carried weapons, drugs etc. Worst I might have had was a couple of tapes with some ZX Spectrum games on, and they never queried that.

Actually once I was stopped and it was obvious he thought he'd hit the jackpot when he turned out my pockets and found a small 'wrap' of foil. Imagine his disappointment when he found it to be a year old stinky Kit Kat wrapper. (yes I was scummy back then and shouldnt emptied my jacket pockets occasionally.)

Back then I felt I was being picked on because of my looks, but now I realise that I could have looked threatening, and also the simple fact that certain groups are more likely to be breaking the law, its a stereotype in a way but it's true.

For instance, if I saw two groups of youths, emos and chavs, and I only had time to go talk to one lot to disperse them, I'd choose the chavs, as they're generally (not always, note) more likely to cause a public disturbance, lets face it, emos are mainly likely to injure themselves.

As for breaking up groups, or dealing with unauthorised protests, sure it's your right to protest, but the police have to be ready at a moment's notice to shut you down if it gets out of hand, and an unauthorised one is more likely to turn ugly.

As for groups of youths hanging around, I'd agree with an earlier poster, its a combination of ' We know you're not doing anything, but we're around, so behave' and breaking up large groups, as no matter what your intent, you can appear threatening to weaker members of the public, and they shouldn't have to avoid the park, say, because it's no longer a friendly place. I realise its not your fault, you're just hanging out with friends, but I understand the cop's take too.

Anyway, TL:DR version...

Most of us here at the escapist don't blame the soldiers for their actions, even if we disagree with the invasion of Iraq, right? Can we offer the same feelings to the police too? They're just doing their job and working and risking their lives to protect us and society, and if you don't like the decisions made, look a LOT higher up than the patrol guy.

(Of course this doesn't forgive the occasional power hungry asshole who abuses his position to go around being a dick, but the vast majority in my experience joined the force to help.)
 

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ace_of_something said:
Combined said:
Ever been on guard duty? If so, how does that work in America?

I'm a security guard and slightly curious.
You mean like a security detail when say; the president comes in town? No, on our dept. you had to have a higher rank to be allowed such sweet sweet easy overtime pay. Or do you mean say like hanging around an urban movie theater on Fridays cuz they've been having problems with people starting fight in the lobby? Yes, it sucks it's boring as hell.
Second one. Thanks for the answer!
 

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I feel like the guy on Boondocks, who stays on the straight and narrow simply for an irrational fear of prison rape.

So, if i go to prison, i don't have to shank the biggest guy I can find on the first day to avoid it?

Serious question: how often do you observe nonviolent offenders becoming violent while in prison. I am pro-legalization of drugs, as I feel prohibition should have taught us something, and am not comfortable with nonviolent drug offenders ending up in federal pound me in the ass prison. (yes, i know many drug offenders are violent criminals, and they can be in prison for a long time)