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Duruznik said:
Death_Korps_Kommissar said:
So what did you think of the way Jews are portrayed in Borat?
Never saw the movie, but I think the whole movie was an obvious 'cross the line twice' comedy, so I don't take any of that to heart. THey're obviously just kidding around.

Also how much shit do you get on a daily basis for being Jewish?
Since I live in Israel, none. :p

Lastly one if you guys made a joke about the holocaust but said nose and penny jokes aren't cool, why?
I dunno, I guess it's the context. If you're among friends, it's different then when talking to strangers. I guess there's a certain level of hypocrisy there, just like it seems perfectly fine for black people ot call other black people "nigga."
What's Israel like actually?
I watched a documentary done by the BBC about ultra-Zionism, is there a lot of fundamentalism in your country?
As one fellow was quoted saying we either fight here or back to the oven of Europe. But I'm guessing he'd be in the minority (I hope).
Also what's the landscape like? =D
 

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Replaying to Calibretto;

Thanks for coming from a clear position of intolerance based on current socio-political environment. It makes it much easier to be snarky.

Why was someone appointed foreign minister? Because they either earned it or gained it through nepetism. How did the foreign minister of YOUR country get appointed?

Why are right wing extremists allowed to be put into any given government? Lets not just focus on Isreal at the moment, but lets focus on, say, the British monarchist rule leading to the revolution of America as a whole. Or the French revolution. Or Stalin in the USSR.

Why do Jews not abide by UN resolutions? Erm.. I was unaware that Jews in America were subject to UN resolution. OH! You mean Isrealites, the Jewish people on a particular section of land! I SEE NOW! Oh, mostly because basically everyone put into a similar situation does the same - they see an unfair situation and seek to change it, regardless of what outside forces tell them to regulate by. *ahem* Any of the G8s and nuclear power/secrets.

Why do jews treat palestinian nationals as third rate citizens? Couldn't tell you. Are Jewish people widely accepted and celebrated as leaders of industry and religion in whatever country it is that you wont tell us where you came from?

What is annoying to be stalemated in war? Well, yes. But then, it tends to be in any war. Why is this on an 'ask a jew' thread? Theres a perfectly good 'I got camped in Halo' thread.

What are Jewish views on military conquered territory? I think we should maybe go ask any nation who has ever conquered or been conquered. Native Americans? Babylonians? Trojans? Or is this just some cutting remark that a nation would dare make a land grab? Guess its just fresher than Germany in WW1, right?

Whats wrong with giving people basic needs? Nothing. Everyone should have basic needs. And preferrably, happiness and joy.

Not being jewish, I cant say I have a people who have been gassed, so, I wouldnt know. But did you seriously just ask how jews felt about gas being used? C'mon.

My fingers are getting tired, so, Im just going to cut this short. You are a dink, and if you have a serious discourse that you would like to engage in, please present it in a way that people can respond. Your post is clearly coming from a spot of hatred and intolerance, and its just the same kind of bullshit that every religious/ethnic group has.
Maybe instead of being so bitter and hatefilled, you could rebel against THE PEOPLE DOING IT, not the internet folks who are trying to make the world a better place by disseminating unbiased information.
..jerk.
 

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Ladette said:
edited because.... Jews hate leprechauns?

Also is it true that Jews get secret martial arts training?
It's called Krav Maga.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Krav_Maga
 

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Calibretto said:
Why did Jews appoint an X bouncer as a foreign minister, is it a representation of their bullying attitude towards other countries around them {namely gaza}.
Don't know how Leiberman ever made it into parliment. Nobody knows, he's practicly the least popular politician currently. Also, I wasn't aware that Gaza was a country. Most countries certainly don't recognise it as one. Wich country, recognised by the international community as an independant country are we bullying?

Why is right wing extremist's allowed to be put in government in the first place.
It's undemocratic to forbid someone from running for parliment unless they are part of a terrorist group or are striving to undermine the government. Most countries function the same way.

Why do you not abide by UN resolutions to make illegal settlements.
Probably because the other side doesn't abide by said resolutions either. I won't comment on whether that's stupid or not, I'm just saying what the government is thinking.

Why do you treat palestinian nationals in your country as not even second rate but third rate citizens.
If they have an Israeli citizeship, they aren't exactly treated as third-class citizens. Sure, Israeli Arabs are discriminated against, but it's not in the actualy legislation., Racism is a problem in any society. As for the way we treat Palestinians wiht no Israeli citizenship... We are in a war, right? There is some logic there, surely?

Was it annoying when Hezbollah stalemated the most technicly advanced army in the world?
Wait, we're more advanced than America? Sur,e we're good, but come on man.
But yes, so fucking annoying. The public outcry was great.

What are your views on the Golan heights ( more territory aquired through military oppression).
Little opression happens there trust me. I've been there.

Whats wrong with giving basic needs to people in the Gaza strip?
100 trucks of basic supplies go in daily, and we assist with transfering international aid as long as it's not weapons or building supplies, which arne't actually basic human supplies.

What do you feel about the use of chemical weapons on the people of Gaza in the Gaza war.
It sucks, but it was a war. I haven't seen many wars where weapons weren't being used.

Do you think the Israel retaliation was to much?
We bombed a city which houses over a million citizens, and only 1,300 died. I think we were pretty careful about killing innocents. Like an elephant in a china shop, we can't be perfect.

What do you think of assassinations via missile attacks from planes?
Precision assassinations avoid innocent casualties.

Do you think your attitude towards other countries will be detrimental to your place in the middle east in the long term? ( for example if the USA empire collapsed and Arab nations caught up to you technologically).
To be fair, most Muslim countries would accept nothing short of the bisandment of our country.

What is your take on the massacre on the Aid vessel?
You mean the Turkish ship "Marmara" in May of 2010? Dude, there was no massacre. The marines were beaten with Metal pipes, and they were armed only with paint guns. 9 people died in the conflict.
 

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Why do you guys get, you know, lopped off at birth? I don't get what that has to do with religious beliefs. I mean, that's your man-tool. You can't take away from someone's man-tool, even with good reason...
 

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EllEzDee said:
Why do you guys get, you know, lopped off at birth? I don't get what that has to do with religious beliefs. I mean, that's your man-tool. You can't take away from someone's man-tool, even with good reason...
It's only the foreskin, no biggie. (Unless it IS a biggie, amirite?)

It's technically because Abraham had his lopped off to seal his pact with God. He had it done at 40, though. Ouch.
 

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Duruznik said:
What is your take on the massacre on the Aid vessel?
You mean the Turkish ship "Marmara" in May of 2010? Dude, there was no massacre. The marines were beaten with Metal pipes, and they were armed only with paint guns. 9 people died in the conflict.
They had personal handguns, so that's why 9 people were killed. They didn't kill people with paint gun bullets.
It is also worth mentioning that the "Marmara" wasn't the only ship in the flotilla. It was the only one that resisted with force.
 

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TheIronRuler said:
Duruznik said:
What is your take on the massacre on the Aid vessel?
You mean the Turkish ship "Marmara" in May of 2010? Dude, there was no massacre. The marines were beaten with Metal pipes, and they were armed only with paint guns. 9 people died in the conflict.
They had personal handguns, so that's why 9 people were killed. They didn't kill people with paint gun bullets.
It is also worth mentioning that the "Marmara" wasn't the only ship in the flotilla. It was the only one that resisted with force.
Huh, good point. But yeah, the Marmara was the only ship to resist. The other ships surrendered peacefully, and no casualties occured. Marmara had a death toll because they resisted soldiers who embarked the ship.
 

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Death_Korps_Kommissar said:
What's Israel like actually?
I watched a documentary done by the BBC about ultra-Zionism, is there a lot of fundamentalism in your country?
As one fellow was quoted saying we either fight here or back to the oven of Europe. But I'm guessing he'd be in the minority (I hope).
Also what's the landscape like? =D
Well, Israel is actually pretty modern. Pretty much everyone has cars, cellphones, computers, etc. We have less skyscrapers, thought that's slowly changing. imagine America, only without all the Christianity, with less BIG stuff (skyscrapers, megamalls), and more middle-easterny, and with loads of stupid politics. Our culture is obviously very different, but that's a given. Israeli culture is more... I dunno. Rough? Come and visit and you'll see first hand!

As for fundamentalists: we have enough of them. Kinda like America with their fundamentalist Christians.

The 'oven in Europe' thing wasn't too unreasonable though, even if it was said bluntly. Fact is, Anti-Semitism is a fashion which comes and goes. History has taught us well that whenever there's a crisis, it quickly comes back into fashion. Without Israel, there's no place to go when such a crisis happens. I'm not saying most people are anti-semites, God no, but some are. It's not like WW2 just made it all evaporate, right?

The landscape is really beautiful and varied. We have swamps and mountains and forests up north, with a large snowy peak next to Syria. I can't begin to desribe how beautiful the rolling hills of the Golan Heights are. Down the center of the country we have mountains, with a valley to the east and plains near the coast. Down south there's a desert, which is truly breathtaking when views from high up.
We also have the Dead Sea, lowest point on land in the world. :D
 

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TU4AR said:
EllEzDee said:
Why do you guys get, you know, lopped off at birth? I don't get what that has to do with religious beliefs. I mean, that's your man-tool. You can't take away from someone's man-tool, even with good reason...
Eh, disease dude. Most of the Mitzvot (Mitzvot? Hope I got that right) are really useful and logical when applied to a tribe of desert peoples living thousands of years ago. God basically gave a list of things to do if you want your tribe to survive.
Holy googly boogly, you cant even give me a TL:NDR. I POSTED THIS ON THE VERY FIRST PAGE!

Circumcision served multiple purposes in Jewish history. One was to show subservience to God (Yahweh). Then again, so does baptism to a Catholic. The only difference is the permanence. It also served a sand-people purpose in reducing potential for sand getting in bad places and rubbing. This is something found less commonly in non-nomadic tribes (settled) tribes, so circumcision was (supposedly) good for health. And last, it was used commonly to differentiate the Jewish people from others at the time. Specifically, the other Egyptian/middle eastern tribes, who did not follow the same practice. This way, there was undeniable proof of religion, even without having other identification. Spies need not apply.

The observed Jewish stance on the new testament is that, while Jesus was a very well constructed robot, he was not the messiahbot. The stories therein are excellent to adhere to, but the actual rules of Judaism are listed primarily (though not limited to) the old testiment of Deuteronomy - the covenant between god and the children of Isreal.
 
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Duruznik said:
Quite true, but I'm hopefull that people in this day and age are a bit less tolerant of mass genocide, but I've been wrong before lol
I like the idea of the Jewish state as the Jews have been pretty much the most oppressed/attacked/unlucky group of people in history I think.
But Israel, and the middle east as a whole I guess, just seems really crazy and violent over here =\
like the flotilla raid and gaza and all that.

Also it sounds beautiful and I may visit if things calm down over the next twenty years or so.
 

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Why do so many Jews glare angrily at Buddhist iconography? Can they really not tell the difference between a Manji and a Swastika? It's kind of annoying.
 

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OtherSideofSky said:
Why do so many Jews glare angrily at Buddhist iconography? Can they really not tell the difference between a Manji and a Swastika? It's kind of annoying.
...they.. don't? Or, at least, the educated ones don't?
But then again, who bothers to educate themselves about anything before getting upset? (Re: nuclear power in japan, penn & teller telling people not to recycle paper, etc).
Jews, believe it or not, highly prize knowledge. Or, at least, that is what was supposed to be the goal after they converted from a warrior nomad tribe to an educated financial (but unfortunately nomadic) tribe.
 

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Are you any good at making money?

I'm not necessarily saying that you automatically should be but such explicit stereotypes usually have some logic behind them.
 

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TheGuiggleMonster said:
Are you any good at making money?

I'm not necessarily saying that you automatically should be but such explicit stereotypes usually have some logic behind them.
Define 'you'. If you mean, the person on the forums? Probably no moreso than anyone else on the forum. Because.. they are on the forums. Is that the fault of genetic disposition? Religion? Or incredibly poor american school system? (Canadian, lolz).
If you mean the jewish people as a whole, being good at making money - there is a fairly strong concept of numbers in Judaism (theres an entire book in the old testament detailing how many frickin cows each person owned). Its somewhat ingrained to be good with money. So.. as a group? Yes, jews are pretty good at making money. If you want a bent on it that is religious, not based on circumstance, that is.
 

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OtherSideofSky said:
Why do so many Jews glare angrily at Buddhist iconography? Can they really not tell the difference between a Manji and a Swastika? It's kind of annoying.
I'm sure the ignorant ones do. Just like ignorant Christians might think they're swastikas too. Some people are just stupid, and believe me Jews aren't exempt.

TheGuiggleMonster said:
Are you any good at making money?

I'm not necessarily saying that you automatically should be but such explicit stereotypes usually have some logic behind them.
Jews historically had more money in Europe under Christian rule not because they necessarily good at making money, but they were forbidden from owning land. This meant they had to be merchants, and all their wealth was in gold and jewels rather than property. This made them richer than other people simply because their fortune wasn't invested in something as unstable as a farm, shop, or a similar business.