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hawkeye52

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Also how are the cuts hitting you atm since my dad is in the SCE and thankfully since hes retiring next year he won't be hit by it but how is that army fairing in that respect
 

Dectomax

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hawkeye52 said:
Also how are the cuts hitting you atm since my dad is in the SCE and thankfully since hes retiring next year he won't be hit by it but how is that army fairing in that respect
At the moment, the cuts are not effecting us directly. They've hit the Navy pretty bad, which has caused us to lose a few good ships but The Royal Marines are alright, for the moment atleast.
 

Kyle Roberts

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Dectomax said:
Kyle Roberts said:
Will the marines allow non-americans to join?
Im considering re-enlisting into the army and im not going back to the russian army.
The Royal Marines are British. Have been since 1664. You would have to be a member of a commonwealth state or have been a UK citizen for 5 years to be eligible to join.
My bad about that i thought the marines were american and thanks for the information.
 

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Kyle Roberts said:
Dectomax said:
Kyle Roberts said:
Will the marines allow non-americans to join?
Im considering re-enlisting into the army and im not going back to the russian army.
The Royal Marines are British. Have been since 1664. You would have to be a member of a commonwealth state or have been a UK citizen for 5 years to be eligible to join.
My bad about that i thought the marines were american and thanks for the information.
The Americans have the USMC (United States Marine Corps), the Brits have the Royal Marines. So both have their own versions of marines.

You should ask an American military guy about their entry requirements, though.
 

Hatter

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Don't want this to come off the wrong way but, Are Marines as over glorified over there as they are in the U.S.? It seems that your general Joe, even more so in the younger generations, over here thinks of your average Marine as Rambo, and a soldier as just some guy that walks around inside the wire and pees himself when he hears someone say "Taliban".

I can quote at least 30 people that I've seen posting on various websites that demonstrate this.
 
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Ireland are part of the UK!
Aheheheh... no. I hope you're just confusing Northern Ireland with Ireland, and not displaying either a complete ignorance of, or total disregard for, Irish independence...

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Traumatising? I've not really been in action too much. as I stated, I was deployed and within the second week hit by mortar fire.
What does being mortared have anything to do with taking a shit?

Larai said:
Cleaning was done by local contractors. They'd come atleast once a week. But sometimes they'd get threatened or combat operations would limit travel. They can get pretty full during those times. And if it's summer it is almost unbearable. You deal with it though.
That's quite interesting. But boy I don't envy those local contractors. Talk about a shitty job... I'd take soldiering any day.
 

Dectomax

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Hatter said:
Don't want this to come off the wrong way but, Are Marines as over glorified over there as they are in the U.S.? It seems that your general Joe, even more so in the younger generations, over here thinks of your average Marine as Rambo, and a soldier as just some guy that walks around inside the wire and pees himself when he hears someone say "Taliban".

I can quote at least 30 people that I've seen posting on various websites that demonstrate this.
A regular infantryman in the British Army trains for 14 weeks.

A regular Marine in the USMC trains for 12 weeks. ( Correct me if I'm wrong? )

A Royal Marine trains for 32 weeks, with one of the most intensive and difficult Recruit training of the NATO forces.

Whilst I consider myself better trained and better equipped to deal with certain scenarios than other infantry, that by no means makes them lesser. I have the upmost respect for all members of the armed forces. (I just believe our units a little better...)
 

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James Joseph Emerald said:
Dectomax said:
Ireland are part of the UK!
Aheheheh... no. I hope you're just confusing Northern Ireland with Ireland, and not displaying either a complete ignorance of, or total disregard for, Irish independence...

Dectomax said:
Traumatising? I've not really been in action too much. as I stated, I was deployed and within the second week hit by mortar fire.
What does being mortared have anything to do with taking a shit?

Larai said:
Cleaning was done by local contractors. They'd come atleast once a week. But sometimes they'd get threatened or combat operations would limit travel. They can get pretty full during those times. And if it's summer it is almost unbearable. You deal with it though.
That's quite interesting. But boy I don't envy those local contractors. Talk about a shitty job... I'd take soldiering any day.
I'm not entirely sure I understand your post?
 

Hatter

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Dectomax said:
Hatter said:
Don't want this to come off the wrong way but, Are Marines as over glorified over there as they are in the U.S.? It seems that your general Joe, even more so in the younger generations, over here thinks of your average Marine as Rambo, and a soldier as just some guy that walks around inside the wire and pees himself when he hears someone say "Taliban".

I can quote at least 30 people that I've seen posting on various websites that demonstrate this.
A regular infantryman in the British Army trains for 14 weeks.

A regular Marine in the USMC trains for 12 weeks. ( Correct me if I'm wrong? )

A Royal Marine trains for 32 weeks, with one of the most intensive and difficult Recruit training of the NATO forces.

Whilst I consider myself better trained and better equipped to deal with certain scenarios than other infantry, that by no means makes them lesser. I have the upmost respect for all members of the armed forces. (I just believe our units a little better...)
I believe that basic for Marines is 13 weeks, no clue how much everything following that would add up to.
It's refreshing to see someone with such a modest demeanor.
 

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Kyle Roberts said:
Dectomax said:
Kyle Roberts said:
Will the marines allow non-americans to join?
Im considering re-enlisting into the army and im not going back to the russian army.
The Royal Marines are British. Have been since 1664. You would have to be a member of a commonwealth state or have been a UK citizen for 5 years to be eligible to join.
My bad about that i thought the marines were american and thanks for the information.
The U.S. Marines will allow non-citizens to join, yes. You have to just be a resident, if memory serves. I had a few mexican friends that still didn't have citizenship even after a deployment, though they did get it shortly after coming back.

And Dectomax, I think they changed the U.S. Marines' bootcamp to 9 weeks. They cut out some stuff they thought was unnecessary.
 

Dectomax

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Hatter said:
Dectomax said:
Hatter said:
Don't want this to come off the wrong way but, Are Marines as over glorified over there as they are in the U.S.? It seems that your general Joe, even more so in the younger generations, over here thinks of your average Marine as Rambo, and a soldier as just some guy that walks around inside the wire and pees himself when he hears someone say "Taliban".

I can quote at least 30 people that I've seen posting on various websites that demonstrate this.
A regular infantryman in the British Army trains for 14 weeks.

A regular Marine in the USMC trains for 12 weeks. ( Correct me if I'm wrong? )

A Royal Marine trains for 32 weeks, with one of the most intensive and difficult Recruit training of the NATO forces.

Whilst I consider myself better trained and better equipped to deal with certain scenarios than other infantry, that by no means makes them lesser. I have the upmost respect for all members of the armed forces. (I just believe our units a little better...)
I believe that basic for Marines is 13 weeks, no clue how much everything following that would add up to.
It's refreshing to see someone with such a modest demeanor.
Thanks for the correction, I knew it was around that mark somewhere!
 

Dectomax

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Frizzle said:
Kyle Roberts said:
Dectomax said:
Kyle Roberts said:
Will the marines allow non-americans to join?
Im considering re-enlisting into the army and im not going back to the russian army.
The Royal Marines are British. Have been since 1664. You would have to be a member of a commonwealth state or have been a UK citizen for 5 years to be eligible to join.
My bad about that i thought the marines were american and thanks for the information.
The U.S. Marines will allow non-citizens to join, yes. You have to just be a resident, if memory serves. I had a few mexican friends that still didn't have citizenship even after a deployment, though they did get it shortly after coming back.

And Dectomax, I think they changed the U.S. Marines' bootcamp to 9 weeks. They cut out some stuff they thought was unnecessary.
Didn't see this, 13 weeks or 9 weeks? I'm so confused! At any rate, their training is different and adheres to different specifications.
 

Shock and Awe

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Has your unit ever serve with the Militaries of other countries? If so, which ones and how did you like them?
 

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Dectomax said:
Frizzle said:
Kyle Roberts said:
Dectomax said:
Kyle Roberts said:
Will the marines allow non-americans to join?
Im considering re-enlisting into the army and im not going back to the russian army.
The Royal Marines are British. Have been since 1664. You would have to be a member of a commonwealth state or have been a UK citizen for 5 years to be eligible to join.
My bad about that i thought the marines were american and thanks for the information.
The U.S. Marines will allow non-citizens to join, yes. You have to just be a resident, if memory serves. I had a few mexican friends that still didn't have citizenship even after a deployment, though they did get it shortly after coming back.

And Dectomax, I think they changed the U.S. Marines' bootcamp to 9 weeks. They cut out some stuff they thought was unnecessary.
Didn't see this, 13 weeks or 9 weeks? I'm so confused! At any rate, their training is different and adheres to different specifications.
Don't worry, it threw me for a loop, too. When I went in 2002 it was 13 weeks long. A few years after, they changed it and made it shorter. I don't recall exactly how much shorter, but I could have sworn it was cut down to 9. I might have to ask my friend and get back to you on the exact length. Regardless, yes the training is different.

I will say that I got the chance to work with a couple of guys from the British forces, and I have nothing but good things to say. I was actually kinda jealous at the time because you guys have toilets in your vehicles, and we still had to go outside :( That, and I like your rifles a lot more :p
Cheers
 

Dectomax

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Shock and Awe said:
Has your unit ever serve with the Militaries of other countries? If so, which ones and how did you like them?
We have had a few USMC over to train with us and for the most part there great lads.
 

Shock and Awe

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Dectomax said:
Frizzle said:
Kyle Roberts said:
Dectomax said:
Kyle Roberts said:
Will the marines allow non-americans to join?
Im considering re-enlisting into the army and im not going back to the russian army.
The Royal Marines are British. Have been since 1664. You would have to be a member of a commonwealth state or have been a UK citizen for 5 years to be eligible to join.
My bad about that i thought the marines were american and thanks for the information.
The U.S. Marines will allow non-citizens to join, yes. You have to just be a resident, if memory serves. I had a few mexican friends that still didn't have citizenship even after a deployment, though they did get it shortly after coming back.

And Dectomax, I think they changed the U.S. Marines' bootcamp to 9 weeks. They cut out some stuff they thought was unnecessary.
Didn't see this, 13 weeks or 9 weeks? I'm so confused! At any rate, their training is different and adheres to different specifications.
Marine Basic Training is 13 weeks, Air Force is 8 1/2, Army is 6 and I think Navy is 8. This is only the very basics though, every service member goes through more training specified to their career field after basic.
 

Dectomax

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Frizzle said:
Dectomax said:
Frizzle said:
Kyle Roberts said:
Dectomax said:
Kyle Roberts said:
Will the marines allow non-americans to join?
Im considering re-enlisting into the army and im not going back to the russian army.
The Royal Marines are British. Have been since 1664. You would have to be a member of a commonwealth state or have been a UK citizen for 5 years to be eligible to join.
My bad about that i thought the marines were american and thanks for the information.
The U.S. Marines will allow non-citizens to join, yes. You have to just be a resident, if memory serves. I had a few mexican friends that still didn't have citizenship even after a deployment, though they did get it shortly after coming back.

And Dectomax, I think they changed the U.S. Marines' bootcamp to 9 weeks. They cut out some stuff they thought was unnecessary.
Didn't see this, 13 weeks or 9 weeks? I'm so confused! At any rate, their training is different and adheres to different specifications.
Don't worry, it threw me for a loop, too. When I went in 2002 it was 13 weeks long. A few years after, they changed it and made it shorter. I don't recall exactly how much shorter, but I could have sworn it was cut down to 9. I might have to ask my friend and get back to you on the exact length. Regardless, yes the training is different.

I will say that I got the chance to work with a couple of guys from the British forces, and I have nothing but good things to say. I was actually kinda jealous at the time because you guys have toilets in your vehicles, and we still had to go outside :( That, and I like your rifles a lot more :p
Cheers
I've got to say, I love the L85. It's an amazing rifle. The only weapon I've used that I feel is as good as it, is the Canadian C7. That was a nice rifle too. Light and didn't have much kick to it.
 

Shock and Awe

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Knusper said:
Dectomax said:
Knusper said:
How do you feel when you see people protesting against your work in Afghanistan? Guilty? Hateful? Unappreciated?
It's their right. I neither care, nor worry about these people.
Also, how frequently do you ever question an officer's orders? Are your opinions appreciated or is it still like how it was in the 19th century? I ask because because it happens all the time in my cadet force.
Take it from a fellow cadet, our programs' similarities with the military stop at the uniform and ranks.
 

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How do you feel about the unquestioning obedience aspect of the whole thing? My father spent over a year as a cadet, and walked away with a lifelong hatred for any kind of intrinsic authority. Granted, this was in the USSR, and he was general-purpose infantry [read: meat-shield], but the idea that somebody can treat you like dirt 'just because' disturbs me. I understand the necessity of discipline, but doesn't it feel strange sometimes? And since we're talking about the British Armed Forces, how do you feel about the fact that a sizeable portion of the Officers got their job due to their ancestry as opposed to their abilities?

I'm toying with the idea of joining the British Armed Forces [I'm Irish, but that shouldn't really be a problem], but these things tend to niggle.
Just joined the escapist and I read this with interest. I'm a Royal Navy Officer and I thought I'd answer the officer related questions. Yes I listen to what the ratings say some of them have far more experience than I do. I did not get my commission because of my family there is now a through interview process. I'm not allowed to treat people like dirt because I feel like it they can complain.