Ask a Voraphile (possibly disturbing)

[zelda2fanboy]

I am a macrophile. That means I am sexually attracted to giants, more specificly female giants, giantesses. Many like a violent, downright cruel giantess, but I like almost specificly kindness. Not that there is anything wrong with the majority, which is violent. I have no problem with the vore community but one. Whenever I look up the commen keywords, "Gentle Giantess" I always get plenty of vore. Vore writers and artist, writers espiecially, always start, tag, or throw in as a plot device "gentle giantess". Many of us complain, but there are so many vorophiles and not as many "gentle" fans. Have you ever even heard of this problem? Many haven't, so I was just wondering if you have, and if you agree with me.

I don't consider myself a "phile" of this particular fetish, but I once saw some cheap fantasy porn videos of a woman drinking a potion and growing out of her clothes (and eventually the building). Very hot, indeed.

 

[David Demers]

I can guess those acronyms, and my favorite is CV, but that's a whole different topic altogether.
My question: Are you a furry? I have yet to met a voraphile who wasn't a furry.

 

[Internet Kraken]

Why did you make this thread? Nobody needed to know this. Nobody wanted to know this. There was no reason to pronounce to the entire forum that you are a voraphile. This thread is just pointless and disturbing. People need to keep their fetishes to themselves. Nobody gives a damn except when you start talking about in the wrong places AKA here.

You are blatantly trying to antagonize both him and the people interested in asking questions. If you are disturbed by him going into such little depth about his fetish then i suppose you should have listened when the topic said "possibly disturbing"

I'm not trying to antagonize anyone. I'm pointing out how these threads are stupid, unnecessary, and never lead to anything good. I've seen a lot of them turn out horribly, because the inherent subject is flawed.

You might say that nothing bad has happened in this thread yet, but it easily could. Furthermore, threads like this inspire more of their kind. It gives people the idea that they should share their fetishes. Basically, this thread had no good reason to be made and nothing positive will come of it.

 

[Callate]

(sigh) I don't get it.

To be clear, that's a genuine "I don't get it", as in, "I cannot imagine my own mind being configured in such a way that I would imagine getting [sexual?] gratification out of that", not a "you're so different than me that there's something horribly wrong with you" kind of "I don't get it."

I've run into vore here and there. It's not my thing, but at least as you say it doesn't do any harm in the form you indulge it.

Anyway, that's a lot of preamble, I guess I should ask a question.

If you envision swallowing your "prey" whole, how does that work (especially as you mentioned preferring your prey remain their normal size)? Do you envision unhinging your jaw like a snake, or are you some kind of giant monster in your fantasies, or... Does it just somehow happen without explanation?

 

[DeathWyrmNexus]

I know some people like vore because, as strange as it sounds, it's safe. They just live inside someone's body, not having to worry about anything. That's called endo, and I'm afraid I don't know much about it.

Ahhh. You're showing a basic misunderstanding of how fatal being eaten is.

Lulz, true that. However, he did state it was pure fantasy thus I suppose he considers himself a human Sarlaac. Now I suppose I have given him a prompt pick up line.

"You wanna be my tasty Yoda?"

OT: Is the correlation simply possession of the subject, subsummation of the subject, or simply the pleasure of the feast for you? (MY dinner, I will have you inside me as part of me, or Food is nummy)

Or did I miss an aspect that you embody in your fantasy?

 

[AugustFall]

What I don't get it is where the pleasure comes from. Like, excuse the banality, but what do you fuck? Like every other fetish, foot, furry, whatever deals with actually having sex with the object of said fetish.

Like what do you actually get off to in this fetish? Where does the sex part come in? God it sounds odd to ask that.

 

[Eccentric Lich]

I've heard of far worse than the Human Centipede. The film actually made my friend nearly throw up when he heard his nephew cry, compared to this film the Human Centipede is Bambi. No, I won't name it.

Would it be The Serbian Film?

Shh... don't mention the portal. Don't want to scare the normal people...

The normals are curious now. What's the portal?

The portal in question is a website called Eka's portal. Google it if you want to see vore art. It can be pretty graphic and disturbing though.

 

[Qtoy]

OT: Are you open about this in person or do you feel awkward or ashamed to tell friends?

While I'm not the OP and he likely feels different, I'm scared to tell friends.

What I don't get it is where the pleasure comes from. Like, excuse the banality, but what do you fuck? Like every other fetish, foot, furry, whatever deals with actually having sex with the object of said fetish.

Like what do you actually get off to in this fetish? Where does the sex part come in? God it sounds odd to ask that.

Not the OP, but I derive the sexual pleasure from the thought of it and the imagery while still being able to get the same enjoyment derived from sex.

 

[Glowbug]

Do you still find other fetishes weird and strange or are you more accepting because you have an unusual fetish yourself?

 

[Kpt._Rob]

Needless to say, analysis of such things from a Freudian perspective is always controversial and never all that conclusive. That said, it seems to me that one could draw on the metaphor of the act of swallowing as having some similarity to sex, the throat serving as a vagina, and the entity being consumed serving as the phallic entity. Only here the act is fully embodied, at least for the male entity.

To hypothesize even further, one could say that might account for why so called "preds" are not generally male, most males don't have vaginal fantasies. This might explain the fantasy for the "prey," to literally become a penis in the act of coitus, strange as it might sound, would probably feel overwhelmingly good.

As for the "pred," it does seem an inverse on the typical female role. To put it in the tastelessly blunt wording of Freudian analysis, here the act of "swallowing" becomes an act of empowerment. While there are many exceptions, and they are becoming more common in our society as patriarchal society has begun to decline, the historical role of the female in society has been submissive. But embodied in the fantasy of the "pred" is a reversal of these power roles. The act of coitus becomes one of dominance in which they, quite literally, devour their prey.

What would you say, OP, in response to a Freudian analysis of this nature?

That is VERY interesting! So when transferring the sex act to digestion, the female/vaginal role becomes the dominant one and the male/phallic becomes submissive.

I'd love to see the OP's take on this, and where he, as a male pred, falls.

Well, assuming that the hastily scrawled Freudian analysis of an armchair psychologist has any validity. There are a lot of qualifiers in there, and one could hardly say that my hypothesis is anything but that, a hypothesis.

Still, like you I think it'd have been interesting to see the OP's response. Not that I blame him for not having responded. One of the biggest reasons for which Freudian analysis fell out of style is because people just didn't like hearing it. It's rarely ever flattering, and if it's true, then it forces us to face things about ourselves that we don't want to admit to anyone, nonetheless to the world. In the context of my analysis, the male OP could simply have a power fantasy (they aren't at all uncommon amongst peoples of either gender, even though none of us likes to think that we get off on dominating others), or could have a combination of some gender role fantasies and power fantasies. Like I said, those aren't flattering things to think one has.

It should probably be taken as a lesson in why one doesn't spill their darkest shit on the internet... primarily because amateur psychologists like myself will come along and change the context of the conversation.

I'm sorry my response wasn't satisfactory, but it stems from ignorance not reluctance. All I know of Freudian theory is that sexuality is shaped by things we're exposed to, and even that is probably a hideous misunderstanding. There is a definite domination side to vore, but beyond that I can't really respond. Maybe if you asked in the simplest, most basic terms possible I'd be able to understand.

My apologies, your response was fine, it was actually more a case of the fact that at the time I responded to that post, you had not yet responded. Which is understandable considering how many people you were responding to.

Either way, I must admit that I find your claim that there isn't a sexual component to vore somewhat questionable. While I myself am far from a strict Freudian, and would disagree with Freud's claim that every element of human psychology relates to sex, I do think that it's hard to say something like this (especially considering that you call it a "fetish") has no sexual elements.

Vore isn't my thing (though I'm sure I have a few habits people would be shocked to learn of myself), that said, I have been around the internet long enough to have stumbled across a couple of vore pictures in my time, and I was familiar with it long before this thread. And while it may be that the pictures I've seen were not representative of vore as a whole, those I've seen have almost all been very explicitly sexualized, even when the figures involved were clothed.

Whether my own reading of the subconscious elements of vore is correct or not, I would be willing to bet my bank account that there are deeper sexual roots to the fetish than those who indulge in it might want to admit.

 

[Qtoy]

Do you still find other fetishes weird and strange or are you more accepting because you have an unusual fetish yourself?

I still consider the other fetishes weird, but I don't vocalize it because that would be hypocritical.
Oh, also, I'm not the OP.

 

[dark-mortality]

I find Vore oddly fascinating to be honest, as long as it's not TO graphical. It may also 'help' that I have a chubby fetish. I also find it a bit fascinating that there's so many people arguing that asking question. (If someone are replying just to start an argument, or because they doesn't like my opinion, then I won't answer. I am not here to quarrel.)

Anyway, I have some questions:
1) As far as you know, does the Vore community, or Vore people in general prefer a gender, or are they pretty much Bisexual?
2) Aside from Furry, is Vore linked towards some other fetishes/Fantasies?
3) This has most likely been asked/said before, but how do you visualice yourself 'swallowing' people? Is it like a snake, cracking open your jaw to a ridiculous size, are you yourself a giant, or does it just happen? And when it comes to after the swallowing, what do you do?
4) You say you are a predator, then I must ask what type of prey are your favorite? Do you also know what type of prey is the favorite of the 'general' Vore community?

Excuse my terrible English, I am not English, so it's most likely some/alot of mistakes there. Do nag at me if you find any.

 

[JoJo]

Ok...I know we live in this age of toleration and everything and to be honest, I tolerate you existing and having this fetish...but...what the fuck dude?

Sure you can't do anything about it, but you have to admit, this is deeply disturbing. I would suggest looking for psychiatric help, but neither do I think such help really exists...nor do I believe that I would be spared of the thousands of the tolerance army coming down upon me.

So, all I can really say is, good luck.

Oh and in case this hasn't been asked yet:

So, do you have normal sex? You've been kind of straight forward with the premise of it being more a arousal then a actual sexual act. So, do you have sex? Homosexual? Heterosexual? Bisexual? Or are you Asexual?

Uh dude, fetishs like vore are actually very common, they don't make you in need of psychiatric help unless you're actually trying to eat people and they don't replace your existing sexuality. I'm not one myself but I have a number of similarly weird fetishs, the most normal of which involves torture and rape and the others are too icky to even mention here. Rest assured though I would never actually harm anyone.

BULLSHIT

A fetish like this isn't common. Torture? Rape? Far more common? Why? They have to do with domination. But I really don't see what the idea of wanting to be eaten or wanting to eat someone is? Well, aside from possibly looney. These are Worlds in terms of difference. And yes, I also find people who are attracted to the idea of someone being a amputee, or vomit or whatever just plain strange. All of these things are, in my eyes, so apart from actual sex that arousal stemming from them, if not because of something being ''wrong'' with you or some kind of experience, makes absolutely no sense to me. Like I made sure to point out at the beginning of my post, people like you coming up in arms over it comes as no surprise.

Oh and I also disagree, being attracted to something like that is so far apart from anything that could be deemed ''normal'' is, in my opinion, reason enough to consult a psychiatrist about it, regardless if you're a danger or not. Why?

1. Because it's just plain fucking wierd. There has to be some kind of explanation and that, regardless of all else is worth knowing, not only for yourself, but humankind as a whole.

2. Surpressing it, like you would have to do with something like this, isn't healthy. It isn't good for you and in the worst case it might turn out to be horrible to someone else. Just because you can live with something for a time, doesn'tmean you can forever. I'm not saying the OP could become a homicidal, cannabalistic maniac...or wait, actually I am. See, reason enough, don't you think?

We had this cannibal here a few years back, just two guys, prey and pred going by the OPs distinctions. As you can surely tell by the beginning of said sentence, it ended in the death of the prey and the pred cannabalizing the corpse. That ofcourse does not mean that anyone would do that, but I think I've made clear I'm not talking about everyone, but the idea that you couldn't possibly know who might have that potential.

I understand the idea of tolerance for all and whatnot. But with some things you have to draw the line and, despite tolerance, admit that it is wierd and probably a mental problem. Nothing to do with any vore as a person, but with vore itself. If you're into it, good for you...but pal, talk to a Doctor about it, you might be repressing something or have far deeper, more serious issuses.

Oh, and since you were pretty much questioning my understanding of fetishes:

Personally I am kind of into a very light kind of bondage. You know, being tied to the bed? Why? I'm a dominant person and sometimes, when I have sex with my GF, I like taking a more submissive role. I asked the OP about sexuality because (shock) I was wondering where precisely that fit's into the puzzle

No offence but all I'm reading here can be basically boiled down to:

"It's icky and gross and weird, I can't imagine why you would like that, and what if he did it in real life?"

All fetishes by defintion are odd, just take a look at this list. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_paraphilias How is enjoying being eaten or eating in that way any more nonsense than being sexually interested in scat, furry, cars etc. Fetishes develop from early childhood experiences and aren't associated in the least with being insane, the only people who do (very rarely) act them out dangerously are those with already other problems (the famed German cannibal supposedly was suffering from some seperate non-fetish schzoid disorder). Since you've already asked what sexuality that makes him, it doesn't sound like you know that much on the issue.

Oh and a mental disorder by definition must have a serious negative effect on the sufferers life, so unless you're actually eating someone or it's causing serious interpersonal difficulties with others then it couldn't be a disorder.

 

[Eccentric Lich]

I find Vore oddly fascinating to be honest, as long as it's not TO graphical. It may also 'help' that I have a chubby fetish. I also find it a bit fascinating that there's so many people arguing that asking question. (If someone are replying just to start an argument, or because they doesn't like my opinion, then I won't answer. I am not here to quarrel.)

Anyway, I have some questions:
1) As far as you know, does the Vore community, or Vore people in general prefer a gender, or are they pretty much Bisexual?
2) Aside from Furry, is Vore linked towards some other fetishes/Fantasies?
3) This has most likely been asked/said before, but how do you visualice yourself 'swallowing' people? Is it like a snake, cracking open your jaw to a ridiculous size, are you yourself a giant, or does it just happen? And when it comes to after the swallowing, what do you do?
4) You say you are a predator, then I must ask what type of prey are your favorite? Do you also know what type of prey is the favorite of the 'general' Vore community?

Excuse my terrible English, I am not English, so it's most likely some/alot of mistakes there. Do nag at me if you find any.

Actually, your English is pretty good.

1) Most people who are into vore prefer one gender for their prey. Usually it's whatever gender they're attracted to in reality. For me, I'd only do a vore RP with a guy.
2) Vore is also linked to macro/micro (giants/small people), weight gain and fat fetishists, and for some, scat fetishes.
3) Personally, I usually just have it happen. The pred can just stretch their mouth open wide and that's that. Unrealistic, yes, but it's convenient for the sake of a fantasy.
4)My favourite type of prey would be other furries. I do prefer certain species over others, but in general, I prefer furry to human. The vore community as a whole is really varied with gender and species, but the most common that I've seen are human men and women as prey.

 

[Weir DeWolfe]

Furry vorarephile here. Fun fact! The word "vorarephile" is actually linguistically incorrect, since "vore" is Latin, and "phile" is Greek. The correct Greek term would be Phagophile. We are phags! XD

What I don't get it is where the pleasure comes from. Like, excuse the banality, but what do you fuck? Like every other fetish, foot, furry, whatever deals with actually having sex with the object of said fetish.

Like what do you actually get off to in this fetish? Where does the sex part come in? God it sounds odd to ask that.

To answer that question, I've mostly seen the eating happen post-coitus, or or there can be fapping from both parties while the prey is inside. A primary factor for many preds is the sensations of a living thing moving around inside you, so sometimes the pred just kicks back and faps.

EDIT: Oh, and also, forgot to mention, outside of the fantasy, nothing much special happens. It's just for your own personal happy time.

BULLSHIT

A fetish like this isn't common. Torture? Rape? Far more common? Why? They have to do with domination. But I really don't see what the idea of wanting to be eaten or wanting to eat someone is? Well, aside from possibly looney. These are Worlds in terms of difference. And yes, I also find people who are attracted to the idea of someone being a amputee, or vomit or whatever just plain strange. All of these things are, in my eyes, so apart from actual sex that arousal stemming from them, if not because of something being ''wrong'' with you or some kind of experience, makes absolutely no sense to me. Like I made sure to point out at the beginning of my post, people like you coming up in arms over it comes as no surprise.

It's plenty common. You just have to look in the right places. Google it. It's common among furry hangouts, such as FA, SF, Fchan, etc. I've noticed a definite link between furries and other fetishes. Fetishes come in groups, it seems.

Oh and I also disagree, being attracted to something like that is so far apart from anything that could be deemed ''normal'' is, in my opinion, reason enough to consult a psychiatrist about it, regardless if you're a danger or not. Why?

1. Because it's just plain fucking wierd. There has to be some kind of explanation and that, regardless of all else is worth knowing, not only for yourself, but humankind as a whole.

It's a fetish. A mere, harmless quirk. Does enjoying being tied down to the bed mean you will eventually lock yourself in a box and have yourself thrown into a lake? (That has happened based on a fetish before) Probably not. Do you seek an explanation for your enjoying bondage?

2. Surpressing it, like you would have to do with something like this, isn't healthy. It isn't good for you and in the worst case it might turn out to be horrible to someone else. Just because you can live with something for a time, doesn'tmean you can forever. I'm not saying the OP could become a homicidal, cannabalistic maniac...or wait, actually I am. See, reason enough, don't you think?

We had this cannibal here a few years back, just two guys, prey and pred going by the OPs distinctions. As you can surely tell by the beginning of said sentence, it ended in the death of the prey and the pred cannabalizing the corpse. That ofcourse does not mean that anyone would do that, but I think I've made clear I'm not talking about everyone, but the idea that you couldn't possibly know who might have that potential.

Of course there are Hannibal Lecter types out there, but they have absolutely nothing to do with 99.9% of voraphiles. Vore is a fantasy based fetish. You fap to it, nothing more. Only serial killers act out on it.

I understand the idea of tolerance for all and whatnot. But with some things you have to draw the line and, despite tolerance, admit that it is wierd and probably a mental problem. Nothing to do with any vore as a person, but with vore itself. If you're into it, good for you...but pal, talk to a Doctor about it, you might be repressing something or have far deeper, more serious issuses.

Oh, and since you were pretty much questioning my understanding of fetishes:

Personally I am kind of into a very light kind of bondage. You know, being tied to the bed? Why? I'm a dominant person and sometimes, when I have sex with my GF, I like taking a more submissive role. I asked the OP about sexuality because (shock) I was wondering where precisely that fit's into the puzzle

Just realize that there are all kinds of weird harmless quirks out there, and that they have nothing to do with whether a person becomes a serial killer or not. There are plenty of better things to be worried about. Hell, it's more worth being paranoid of thunderclouds and lightning than vorarephiles.

 

[TheAceTheOne]

Asians, English Accents, and Rape. Really only serves to ensure that I have no grounds to attack anyone else's proclivities, I suppose.

A pity, two hundred years ago you'd have fit in splendidly in the Opium trade.

LOL. You've won the internet and all associated properties good sirs. That was an amazing response.

On topic:... Uh, crap. No questions. Sorry.

 

[dark-mortality]

I find Vore oddly fascinating to be honest, as long as it's not TO graphical. It may also 'help' that I have a chubby fetish. I also find it a bit fascinating that there's so many people arguing that asking question. (If someone are replying just to start an argument, or because they doesn't like my opinion, then I won't answer. I am not here to quarrel.)

Anyway, I have some questions:
1) As far as you know, does the Vore community, or Vore people in general prefer a gender, or are they pretty much Bisexual?
2) Aside from Furry, is Vore linked towards some other fetishes/Fantasies?
3) This has most likely been asked/said before, but how do you visualice yourself 'swallowing' people? Is it like a snake, cracking open your jaw to a ridiculous size, are you yourself a giant, or does it just happen? And when it comes to after the swallowing, what do you do?
4) You say you are a predator, then I must ask what type of prey are your favorite? Do you also know what type of prey is the favorite of the 'general' Vore community?

Excuse my terrible English, I am not English, so it's most likely some/alot of mistakes there. Do nag at me if you find any.

Actually, your English is pretty good.

1) Most people who are into vore prefer one gender for their prey. Usually it's whatever gender they're attracted to in reality. For me, I'd only do a vore RP with a guy.
2) Vore is also linked to macro/micro (giants/small people), weight gain and fat fetishists, and for some, scat fetishes.
3) Personally, I usually just have it happen. The pred can just stretch their mouth open wide and that's that. Unrealistic, yes, but it's convenient for the sake of a fantasy.
4)My favourite type of prey would be other furries. I do prefer certain species over others, but in general, I prefer furry to human. The vore community as a whole is really varied with gender and species, but the most common that I've seen are human men and women as prey.

Thank you for the answers Now, one last questions that I just remembered. What do you think about the stories, the real stories, about a person actually eating another person.
For example, this case: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/2569095.stm
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I know it says "Cannibalism" ,but you can also think of it as Vore. Now, what do you think about cases like that? Are they generally accepted, or do cases like that give the general Vore crowd a bad name? Err... let me ask in another way. Do the general Vore person accept that, or do they think that it's disgusting to actually DO it, and that it gives the Vore community a bad name?