Assassins Creed 3 - The Best Assassins Creed Yet.

[upgrayedd]

The Ship missions are fun because the thing handles like your sailing an 18th centuary ship

As for the rest, Cringe-worthy back-story, The game is visually average, The game is very Buggy (this is from a man who sunk 200 hours into Fallout 3 and 200 into Skyrim)

Lacks polish in terms of gameplay, Story, and thats how i rank the game, Spend another month building the storyboard and another month making sure when trying to unlock a chest the key is in the freaking keyhole rather then halfway up the damn chest i would of liked it so much more

Oh and The Minigames, I did not buy assassins creed to play tower defense/Bocchi ect. I bought it to stealth kill everyone ever.

 

[putowtin]

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Oh Messrs Jack and Tom, you know I respect you, but I have to disagree, as a die hard fan of the Assassin's Creed games ACIII is, without a shadow of a doubt, the worst of the series!
I could go on and on and on about how bad this game is (in my opinion) but I won't, but here's my top three reasons why ACIII sucks!

1:Ratonhnhaké:ton (Connor) is boring. Now I know people have said that he's stoic, that he's complex, but I've palyed the game to 100% completion, I've done all the side missions within the homestead where you actually do get to see more of his personality, and he's still boring!
2:Game mechanics: Oh look you can pet a dog and feed a chicken! Great but why does my horse get stuck in water? Why can't I vault over this wooden fence? Why do I stick to ever surface in the game?
3esmond's ending: Now I know Desmond hasn't been the most interesting character in the series, he's not even the most interesting character in the present day Assassin's (Take a bow Shaun!) but for 5 games we have had this build up to an event of such earth shattering importance that in the end turned out to be... nothing, a confusing conversation with two of "them" (BTW Where was Jupiter? Out for lunch?) & a decision we had no choice in and that's it!

Ok gonna stop ranting now!

I'll end this small wall of text with saying that I think Assassins Creed 3 is the best of the Assassins Creed games and give you a final reason why: Haytham Kenway.

Whilst I may not agree with you on most of your points, this one is valid, Haytham Kenway is indeed the greatest character in the game!

 

[Soxafloppin]

AC2 is still my favourite but there are loads of awesome things in AC3

My Pros
Tree Running is awesome!
Hunting
I LOVED the homestead missions, The homestead starts of as pretty desolate and as you recruit workers and traders it gradually becomes busier.
Naval Battles!


My Cons
The architecture simply isn't as interesting as the Ezio Trilogy, not as fun to explore.
Connor is a bit of a Dick, I think his Outfit is the coolest yet however, and its cool to play as a Native American in such a high profile game.
General Bugginess.
Disappointing ending once more.

 

[SonicWaffle]

There are a few problems. At times I felt the British are shown as the 'baddies' with the main game being a bit against the Brits and the only balanced arguments coming from Shaun's Animus database entries . Although, maybe this is because I'm British.

Funny you should say that - I'm currently writing an article about Shaun Hastings from a British point-of-view, and how his extremely xenophobic statements are seemingly included to make the British look like absolute dickbags. I find it odd that you consider him the only balanced point of view when to me he came off as a bitter, ranting, jingoistic child who is apparently incapable of accepting that we no longer have an empire

 

[SonicWaffle]

5) The game doesn't even have a fucking ending.

Number 5 is what annoyed me the most. I've bought every single Assassin's Creed game to find out what happens between the Templars and the Assassins. It was an interesting power struggle of conflicting ideologies. What do we get instead?

Spoiler

Desmond releases a deity. World is saved. Tada!

That really, really fucked me off. I was hoping for a fucking conclusion, not a hook for the next sequel! I was also really annoyed at how they treated Lucy's death - rather than working it into the story in some way, they just threw up their hands and went "fuck it, she was evil and he just knew it, so let's all forget that it ever happened"

 

[SonicWaffle]

By far the only thing worthwhile about that game was how far they've come with the fluidity of the animations.

And I feel like I need to nip this argument in the butt. Shaun didn't give a "balanced" view on the Revolutionary war. He gave the British point of view on the war. There's a difference.

No. No, he did not. He gave what some (presumably non-British) writer probably thinks is the British view of the revolutionary war, but it's actually so far off-base as to be comical. We Brits are not, as a whole, so jaded and bitter about our fall from world leader to middle of the pack that we take every single possible opportunity to viciously snark at other nations over the slightest little thing. Shaun is a horrible example of a British character, the kind of guy you meet in a pub who insists that imperialism was great because the English are innately superior as a race and a culture. The idea that he's supposed be be an intellectual and a historian is deeply undermined by making him talk like the letters page of the Daily fucking Mail!

On a different topic, I love your avatar. I finished Cold Days last night, and I'm already depressed that I've got to wait so long for the next one.

 

[JackandTom]

There are a few problems. At times I felt the British are shown as the 'baddies' with the main game being a bit against the Brits and the only balanced arguments coming from Shaun's Animus database entries . Although, maybe this is because I'm British.

Funny you should say that - I'm currently writing an article about Shaun Hastings from a British point-of-view, and how his extremely xenophobic statements are seemingly included to make the British look like absolute dickbags. I find it odd that you consider him the only balanced point of view when to me he came off as a bitter, ranting, jingoistic child who is apparently incapable of accepting that we no longer have an empire

It's not that I believe he is the only balanced point of view, but I think he's the closest thing to one. Which is a bit sad really, as he doesn't make us Brits look all that good but rather he, as you said make the British look like absolute dickbags.

 

[AgentLampshade]

Haytham is pretty much the only interesting character in the game...Actually, he's literally the only interesting character in the game. I actually thought they were pulling a MGS2 on us at first and in hindsight, I really wish they did.

 

[JackandTom]

By far the only thing worthwhile about that game was how far they've come with the fluidity of the animations.

And I feel like I need to nip this argument in the butt. Shaun didn't give a "balanced" view on the Revolutionary war. He gave the British point of view on the war. There's a difference.

He didn't give a balanced point of view but rather he made the game less pro-America. Considering the only other view point in the game was from an american point of view, he was the only one giving a British point of view making the argument slightly more balanced. I do understand that the Patriots are the enemy as well, especially later on in the game, but for the first half of the game the Brits are the 'baddies'.

Captcha: civil war

 

[Casual Shinji]

Setting the next installment of a franchise, that's all about clambering around big sprawling historical cities, in colonial America is a big fucking mistake. All you could do in Assassin's Creed 3 was climb trees and barns. Woopty doo!

The AC gameplay isn't a fit for this setting at all, and so it was hammered in with that awkward tree climbing mechanic. And you know that phrase 'God doesn't work in straight lines'? That became really fucking obvious when running around the forrest area, where most of the trees had inexplicable straight branches.

And Conner might as well be replaced by a totem pole.

The only good thing about the game were the naval missions.

 

[SonicWaffle]

Yeah, when it comes to the whole Revolution thing we pretty much just don't care. They don't even bother teaching it in school history lessons. Half the time we were being introduced to American folk legends my reaction was, "Uhhhh ... who?"

Well, yeah, nobody really likes to dwell on a war they lost. Especially when the loss of that war lead directly to our country being wholly overshadowed by the former colony, to the point where some jokingly refer to Britain as America's unofficial additional state. I mean, that's pretty embarassing

I think it was important to have Shaun's alternative view of the whole thing, because it does provide balance to a story where you're fighting on the side of the Patriots most of the time. A lot of the time he's just pointing out facts, like the fact that the founding fathers talked about freedom despite the fact that they owned slaves, or the fact that the Native Americans got completely screwed from all directions. Though he does seem a bit unnecessarily bitter about the whole thing.

The thing is, the game is only superficially pro-American. The Founding Fathers are shown to be fallible, sometimes foolish, occasionally bloodthirsty and to have attained their victory more through luck than anything else. At the end, in the post-credits missions, the game shows Connor's realisation that the nation he has helped build is not the haven of liberty he hoped, but just as unpleasant and corrupt as anywhere else.

This is fine by me. The presentation we get of the USA's foundation (largely due to our media being eclipsed by the American entertainment industry, see above re unofficial state) tends to be one of heroic rebels battling a corrupt empire. It was nice to see a slightly more realistic portrayal, as well as acknowledgement that the language used by the Founders is often hypocritical. The game just went way, way too far in the opposite direction by making Shaun a snarling, rabid dog who ceaselessly attacked everything American, and to a lesser extent French. The story was already fairly well balanced without his vitriol.

 

[SonicWaffle]

There are a few problems. At times I felt the British are shown as the 'baddies' with the main game being a bit against the Brits and the only balanced arguments coming from Shaun's Animus database entries . Although, maybe this is because I'm British.

Funny you should say that - I'm currently writing an article about Shaun Hastings from a British point-of-view, and how his extremely xenophobic statements are seemingly included to make the British look like absolute dickbags. I find it odd that you consider him the only balanced point of view when to me he came off as a bitter, ranting, jingoistic child who is apparently incapable of accepting that we no longer have an empire

It's not that I believe he is the only balanced point of view, but I think he's the closest thing to one. Which is a bit sad really, as he doesn't make us Brits look all that good but rather he, as you said make the British look like absolute dickbags.

He's a stereotype. Listen to his database entries - he adores tea, loathes the French, is snobbish towards Americans and drops awful Carry On style one-liners about "midnight rides"

Of course, virtually everyone is a stereotype in AC3 (spiritual natives, arrogant French, brawling Scots, polite Canadian), but where Shaun is our constant companion the player is left with a sense that the British are the worst of the lot.

 

[JackandTom]

There are a few problems. At times I felt the British are shown as the 'baddies' with the main game being a bit against the Brits and the only balanced arguments coming from Shaun's Animus database entries . Although, maybe this is because I'm British.

Funny you should say that - I'm currently writing an article about Shaun Hastings from a British point-of-view, and how his extremely xenophobic statements are seemingly included to make the British look like absolute dickbags. I find it odd that you consider him the only balanced point of view when to me he came off as a bitter, ranting, jingoistic child who is apparently incapable of accepting that we no longer have an empire

It's not that I believe he is the only balanced point of view, but I think he's the closest thing to one. Which is a bit sad really, as he doesn't make us Brits look all that good but rather he, as you said make the British look like absolute dickbags.

He's a stereotype. Listen to his database entries - he adores tea, loathes the French, is snobbish towards Americans and drops awful Carry On style one-liners about "midnight rides"

Of course, virtually everyone is a stereotype in AC3 (spiritual natives, arrogant French, brawling Scots, polite Canadian), but where Shaun is our constant companion the player is left with a sense that the British are the worst of the lot.

Oh, I agree, but for the first half of the game Shaun is the only British point of view, which is a shame. But eventually the game does show the independent side to be not as great as you first thought, but for anyone who doesn't play the game for long (which seems like a lot of people) Shaun is the one defending the British.

 

[RedDeadFred]

Really? It was the most disappointing game of the year for me. I mean it wasn't a bad game but it was only alright IMO. It's a shame because ACII is one of my favourite games. I even liked the two yearly releases after that. ACIII was worse than ACII in almost every way.

 

[SonicWaffle]

For those who are interested, the British school history curriculum goes something like this (from year 1 to sixth form):

Did We Mention That We Beat Germany? Because We Did. Hardy-Har-Har.

Ha! Did you ever hear Frankie Boyle's bit about the cost of the Olympics and the reasoning behind it, the whole idea of restoring our national pride?

They say that the Olympics is going to rekindle English national pride. I mean, for £9.2 billion they could have written "Fuck off Germany" onto the moon.

Yeah I mentioned earlier in the thread that they kind of screwed up the moderns' characterisation in this game. Not to mention the fact that they managed to get Shaun's ADB bio wrong. That's kind of embarrassing considering that Shaun was the one who was supposed to be writing the database entries.

I found it amusing that Shaun kept taking sly digs at how bad the American education (supposedly) is, snarking that if American schools didn't suck so hard Desmond wouldn't need to be told all these historical facts that obviously every child in a British school would know.

Apparently, Shaun has completely forgotten that Desmond was basically indoctrinated in the commune of a cult until the age of 16, and has never actually been through the public school system

 

[JoesshittyOs]

On a different topic, I love your avatar. I finished Cold Days last night, and I'm already depressed that I've got to wait so long for the next one.

Oh snap, Cold Days came out?

I gotta get myself to Amazon.

 

[Korten12]

I don't think it's the best in the series but it's one of my favorite. My list probably goes like:

AC2 - AC3 - Brotherhood - AC1 - Revelations.

Still haven't been liberation but it's good so far. Rev's wasn't bad but it just felt boring and the city while nice at first just wasn't as fun to explore as cities in AC2 and Brotherhood were.

But I actually enjoyed the story in AC3, I found the ending meh, but not nearly as bad as other people. But exploring the cities, the wilderness and such were great. I also love... LOVE the multiplayer. Plan on spending many hours within it's confines.