Assassin's Creed Brotherhood Ending *Spoilers*

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Tomster595

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So I just finished AC: Brotherhood. The ending was crazy, but left me really confused. Obviously I need to say some spoilers to discuss the ending so...
I really didn't get much of it at all, especially why the "god" had him stab Lucy. One theory I read online said that it's because it's not the sun that will cause the disaster but Desmond's SON. And so because of this, he had to get rid of Lucy so they wouldn't have a child. To me that sounds pretty crazy, so I don't really trust it.
Anyone have a better ending explanation?
 

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I don't but really add "Spoilers" in the title to be safe dude; I mean I've finished the game so we're ok, but you know just add the fact there are spoilers just to be safe
 

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Tomster595 said:
Sorry, I figured including "ending" in the title would imply spoilers. I'll change it.
Also put a little bit of info like
"SPOILER COMING UP!"
and then uase spoiler tags for the ending...
 

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Tomster595 said:
So I just finished AC: Brotherhood. The ending was crazy, but left me really confused. Obviously I need to say some spoilers to discuss the ending so...
I really didn't get much of it at all, especially why the "god" had him stab Lucy. One theory I read online said that it's because it's not the sun that will cause the disaster but Desmond's SON. And so because of this, he had to get rid of Lucy so they wouldn't have a child. To me that sounds pretty crazy, so I don't really trust it.
Anyone have a better ending explanation?
Lucy was a templar spy
 

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Well according to the crazy lady who made him do it, he has to "be free" and meet some other black haired chick. Basically they didn't want him tangled up in a romance plot from the sound of things.

Two interesting things from that though.

1) This black haired chick we don't know. Since Desmond's pretty much done til "Assassins Creed: Present Day", I'm guessing the new protagonist will be her for a little while.

2) Lucy could make a comeback. A lot of Project:Legacy is to do with the piece of Eden "The Shroud", which can heal fatal wounds and bring back the dead. And in the 15th century the Assassins had a hold of it in Italy.

So maybe that's where the gang will head next? To use the Shroud on Lucy?
 

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Danzaivar said:
Well according to the crazy lady who made him do it, he has to "be free" and meet some other black haired chick. Basically they didn't want him tangled up in a romance plot from the sound of things.

Two interesting things from that though.

1) This black haired chick we don't know. Since Desmond's pretty much done til "Assassins Creed: Present Day", I'm guessing the new protagonist will be her for a little while.

Lucy could make a comeback. A lot of Project:Legacy is to do with the piece of Eden "The Shroud", which can heal fatal wounds and bring back the dead. And in the 15th century the Assassins had a hold of it in Italy.

So maybe that's where the gang will head next? To use the Shroud on Lucy?
Why is Desmond done? They could still use him for the next game and..
It's not define that Lucy's wound was fatal.
 

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I read one which was really interesting. If you're really familiar with the December 21, 2012 theory that ends the world, read Desmond's emails. Read his last one. Count 72 days from that date. Where does that date land? December 21, 2012. Ubisoft sure has their players begging for more. If you heard Lucy, she also said that Abstergo's Satellite Launch is in 72 days, someone wanted them there. In the world of the Assassins, there is no coincidence. Nothing is true, everything is permitted.
 

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taquitos45 said:
I read one which was really interesting. If you're really familiar with the December 21, 2012 theory that ends the world, read Desmond's emails. Read his last one. Count 72 days from that date. Where does that date land? December 21, 2012. Ubisoft sure has their players begging for more. If you heard Lucy, she also said that Abstergo's Satellite Launch is in 72 days, someone wanted them there. In the world of the Assassins, there is no coincidence. Nothing is true, everything is permitted.
I figured there was no coincedence that the present day in-game was at last dated and it was in 2012 no less.
 

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Tomster595 said:
Danzaivar said:
Well according to the crazy lady who made him do it, he has to "be free" and meet some other black haired chick. Basically they didn't want him tangled up in a romance plot from the sound of things.

Two interesting things from that though.

1) This black haired chick we don't know. Since Desmond's pretty much done til "Assassins Creed: Present Day", I'm guessing the new protagonist will be her for a little while.

Lucy could make a comeback. A lot of Project:Legacy is to do with the piece of Eden "The Shroud", which can heal fatal wounds and bring back the dead. And in the 15th century the Assassins had a hold of it in Italy.

So maybe that's where the gang will head next? To use the Shroud on Lucy?
Why is Desmond done? They could still use him for the next game and..
It's not define that Lucy's wound was fatal.
Why is Desmond done? Because after they broke him out of Abstergo, he was in the Animus for two reasons. 1) To learn Ezio's skills and abilities. 2) To find where Ezio left his piece of Eden.

He's achieved both of those. He's also suffering from the bleeding effect pretty badly. Unless it's to shake him out of shock for stabbing Lucy, keeping him in the Animus now is just gonna make him a worse Assassin, and they need him to be useful. That God lady said there's another like him who he hasn't met yet, which would make perfect sense for them to be a new protagonist until the present day Assassins Creed.

Lucy COULD be alive still, I guess. But that would REALLY undermine all of the drama that the ending had. It's like if Aeris in FF7 just stood up in Disc 2 and was like "lol s'cool guys I'm fine".
 

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Danzaivar said:
Tomster595 said:
Danzaivar said:
Well according to the crazy lady who made him do it, he has to "be free" and meet some other black haired chick. Basically they didn't want him tangled up in a romance plot from the sound of things.

Two interesting things from that though.

1) This black haired chick we don't know. Since Desmond's pretty much done til "Assassins Creed: Present Day", I'm guessing the new protagonist will be her for a little while.

Lucy could make a comeback. A lot of Project:Legacy is to do with the piece of Eden "The Shroud", which can heal fatal wounds and bring back the dead. And in the 15th century the Assassins had a hold of it in Italy.

So maybe that's where the gang will head next? To use the Shroud on Lucy?
Why is Desmond done? They could still use him for the next game and..
It's not define that Lucy's wound was fatal.
Why is Desmond done? Because after they broke him out of Abstergo, he was in the Animus for two reasons. 1) To learn Ezio's skills and abilities. 2) To find where Ezio left his piece of Eden.

He's achieved both of those. He's also suffering from the bleeding effect pretty badly. Unless it's to shake him out of shock for stabbing Lucy, keeping him in the Animus now is just gonna make him a worse Assassin, and they need him to be useful. That God lady said there's another like him who he hasn't met yet, which would make perfect sense for them to be a new protagonist until the present day Assassins Creed.

Lucy COULD be alive still, I guess. But that would REALLY undermine all of the drama that the ending had. It's like if Aeris in FF7 just stood up in Disc 2 and was like "lol s'cool guys I'm fine".
Haha, nice example. Well Yea, I guess that makes sense, but it's kinda sad though. I'll miss Desmond.
 

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I managed to pick up the Collector's Edition strategy guide, and with a little digging, I figured out what exactly was going on. Alot of things could go multiple ways- the stupid strategy guide even says something along the lines of, "Weeeell, it could mean this OOOOOR, it could mean this! Hahahahaaa, we won't give you a straight answer so wait for the next gaaaame." That kind of crap.
ANYWAYS!
They probably throw Desmond back into the animus to wake him up from his shock of possibly killing Lucy. It doesn't address this directly, but I'm sure that's what it's come to. ALSO, they won't be done with Ezio JUST yet- remember at the beginning when Desmond saw the ghost of Ezio in Altair's Armor Chamber? Ezio was really old. Desmond even comments on the fact that he had gone back there for some unknown reason- they never mentioned it again afterward.
There's also that Templar/Enemy trail outside in Present-day, leading to the mansion. Though if you use Eagle Vision inside, everyone is an ally. You'd think Lucy is a Templar, but this game wouldn't be as interesting as it is if it were predictable now, would it?
At the end, the reason he kills Lucy is because there is a plan that has been formulated by the First Civilization. It is a very complex and detailed plan- ESPECIALLY considering that that woman's projection you continue to see is only a projection. Their race died out a LOOONG time ago, remember? Everything she said isn't real-time. She's already Dead. This indicates how much power their race had- to look thousands of years into the future to plan this entire sequence of events to save the world. Anyways- this plan is that the SON, not the SUN, is supposed to be the key to civilization, or something along those lines. Subject 16 reveals the two characters- "Adam" and "Eve". Its also revealed that the reason why Desmond is able to actually ACTIVATE the Apple of Eden is because he is a direct descendant of Adam- the same way that only Ezio was able to actually USE the PoE, as well. 16 also says that Adam must be united with Eve to have a SON. But it's obvious that Desmond is quite fond of Lucy. Lucy, in the eyes of the First Civilization Woman, is a distraction to Desmond and therefore cannot be allowed to live. Also, she refers to Lucy as a "Sharpened Cross", which could mean one or both of these things- 1)Desmond cannot "Cross" breed with the wrong person. He is supposed to be with Eve. 2) Lucy is still a Templar, set to try and earn Desmond's trust and knowledge. This would explain the trail of red on the ground outside. If it turns out to be both of these, the Woman could be hinting a calamity being produced from the blood of an Assassin and the blood of a Templar being mixed. Like I said- it could go both ways. Perhaps Lucy IS a Templar, but because she has grown so fond of Desmond she has changed her mind? Perhaps the red trail is her leaving to deliver information to Abstergo? I guess we'll find out in the next game.
Regardless- after reading everyone's posts, I like the Shroud idea :D That sounds really plausable~
Also, there has been a rumor--- RUUUUUMOOOOR, NOT CONFIRMED, MIND YOU, that the next game could possibly be set in the time of the Mayans. The beginning of OUR civilization and such, and Cortes is bringing religion over, as well as the basis of government. There was also all of that hooplah about there being alien markings on the temples and such.. sort of like the Egyptians. I think that the next game will go MUCH more into depth about the First Civilization, for SURE. They've gone 2 games without explaining it much, so it's high-time they start. xD
Should still have ALOT of present-day play though.

Anyone else ever see the Scene when Desmond says "Eeey, Whassamatta you Altair?" To the statue? Everyone I know missed that scene, and it was the best moment of my life xD
 

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I saw the whatssamatta you scene and it was funny. but reading the collectors edeition strtegy guide it hints that the next game will be in 18th century france. I don't believe lucy is a templar as in the original it shows her glowing blue next to vidic who is red and barring being the BEST double agent ever i dont think she is. The shroud is possible but if they do bring lucy back it wont be until the end of the next one as the shroud could very easily become a deus ex machina if used wrongly and though i play it not everyone has played project legacy so it would seem like they just pulled it out of their arse if they just use it without a build up. Also the guide also hints that Jupiter will be the major villain in the present and is the one they need to stop and that desmonds and eves son will be the only one who can stop him. But i must say that i like where the series is going.
 

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Perhaps it was just me, but I am pretty certain that the "expert" we hear talking over the end credits is Vidic. This would imply that Desmond is once more a captive of Abstergo industries. If that's the case, the thread of what happened to Lucy and the rest can be left hanging until the end of the next game pretty easily.
 

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RAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAGGGGHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!

Screw you, Ubisoft! You just hit the trifecta - leaving me with more questions than answers about the First Civilization, possibly killing a character I've come to care about (seeing how I'm a hopelessly romantic sap), and ending the game on the most painful cliffhanger of the series to date. Goddamn you!!! It'll be a month before the need to scratch at this mental scab subsides, minimum!
 

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I just hope we haven't seen the last of Ezio. He's so damn cool.
I still really don't care so much about the overarching storyline as much as I care about the lives of the assassins. The present day platforming sections were great, though. They also looked spectacular.

I just finished Brotherhood, and definitely think it is the strongest in the series so far (though I think it's hard to separate it from #2 much, aside from the Brotherhood aspect).

One complaint: The Armor of Brutus looks hideous. Especially when compared to Altair's Armor.
 

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1) GREAT research man (no sarcasm)
2) i dont get the thing about ezio being a direct descendant of adam...cause isnt everyone? on this subject i think that the whole adam eve thing is just a codename thing. or maybe they mean that they will be the NEW adam eve. recreating the human race. the god lady in the end of AC: B says that the human race sucks yada yada.
3) I AM EXTREMELY AGAINST the whole lucy being a spy. that would make her a triple spy and nobody does that shit. also like you said she appeared in 'blue' at the end of AC1. also she couldve just told vidict that they were at the monterrigioni place. kidnapped desmond and forced him to find the PoE like they did in..gues what? AC1.
4) i know nothing about the mayan stuff but: no. no. NO. if anything they were actually considering putting it in WWII but i dont need to stress how bad an idea THAT would be.
5) any thoughts on the whole '72' thing? theres gotta be something deep with that. thats just the way ubisoft rolls.
6) YES I SAW THE WASSA MATTA WITH YOU ALTAIR? !!! blew my mind.
 

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All these unanswered questions and cliffhangers are what I love and hate about AC, it makes me spend more money :( bcuz i NEED to know what's happening.
And...
What ever happened to Cesare? (I might of missed it)
"No man can kill me" yadda yadda. Thrown off building. Then the 'loading' screen showing him repeating those words and, to my eyes (but it was like 4am :p) it looked like Cesare was getting older, bearing a resemblance to Vidic.
Or maybe not.
 

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I can't say I remember it to well, but I think it was implied that Cesare had a piece of Eden - Ezio commented to Leonardo that it was spooky, the way he said no man could kill him. That's what I took it to imply anyway. And then when he was thrown off the walls, I think we're left to assume he died (as his POE could not protect him from gravity).
I didn't pay much attention to the loading screen thing, but I dont think it showed anything special. Then again, you could be right.