Assassin's Creed Copyright Suit Lawyer Speaks Out

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Absolutionis

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AdamG3691 said:
Absolutionis said:
AdamG3691 said:
(which, until now, I've never heard of)
Exactly. Now you have.
This was likely the author's initial objective.
to make me never want to buy anything from him ever?

honestly, if I'd seen the book, I would have likely been interested (ironically, because I like assassins creed)
now, I'd want nothing to do with it.
Yeah, stupid plan of his backfired in the worst way. Now the only hope the """""author""""" has is to recoup his lost dignity with the lawsuit (I ran out of quotation marks / sarcasm quotes on that word).
 

evilneko

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So in this guy's logic, Robert Jordan (RIP) totally should've sued Terry Goodkind, 'cus there are so many parallels between Wheel of Time and Sword of Truth...
 

Baldr

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Michael Baigent and Richard Leigh had a much much better case against Dan Brown in their lawsuit. Basically Bailent and Leigh wrote a non-fictional book The Holy Blood and the Holy Grail. Dan Brown acknowledge he used ideas from the other authors book to create the best seller The Da Vinci Code. "Baigent and Leigh acknowledged that copyright should not protect against the borrowing of an idea contained in a work. But they argued that their book made a sequence of connections that no-one had made before."

This lawsuit failed in the UK court system. "Justice Smith observed: 'When a book is put forward as being a non fictional book and contains a large number of facts and ideas it is always going to be a difficult exercise in trying to protect against copying of those facts and ideas because as such they cannot be protected. It is the effort and time that has gone into the way in which those ideas and facts are presented that is capable of protection.'"

Unfortunately the case is not going to be settled in the UK.
 

BehattedWanderer

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Well, damn. Who got the lawyer that knows how to calmly, matter-of-factly deal with these things? Our shenanigans have less merit when someone tells us they don't impact the matter at hand. Nuts.

Hevva said:
I have to be honest here: I've never trained in law. (I know. My parents are disappointed, too.)
It's the little things like this that make me love the Escapist. Almost the entire news team, when they're not tongue bathing GOG.com and their remarkable sales, has their tongue in their cheek and their wit on high. It's okay. We know that "Games Journalism is a totally legit career, dad". We understand. Let them shake their heads in disapproval.
 

robert022614

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"All I can say is that Keller is an experienced-sounding lawyer with a website"

So did anyone else see this line as an invitation to mess with said lawyer?
 

Metalrocks

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over 5M??? for a book no one knows, sold badly and got not so good ratings??? is he serious???
sounds to me he is just greedy and jealous because his book is bad. lets see what the court will say about this.
if he wins, he really needs the 5M to hire really good security guys to protect him, from really pissed off AC fans.
 

Andronicus

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I know people have already said this, but I think it's an important point that bears repeating. Nothing good will become of this if Ubi loses the case. OK, Ubisoft loses some money, big deal, plenty more where that came from, whatever. Trouble is, there are a LOT of small-time books out there that likely noone would ever had heard of, with stories vaguely similar to those in certain games, depending on how you spin it. Winning this case sets a precedence for other authors to sue on the grounds that they came up with an idea first, and have intellectual authority over it. Cue floodgates.

If there's any silver lining in that, it's that game writers will have to really work their imagination to the limits to think of something truly unique, but it would still be a sad state of affairs.
 

Lancer873

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Lego Minecraft, James Cameron's Avatar, and now this. Last I checked, none of the lawsuits went anywhere, so I'm anticipating this guy will get his ass kicked in court and we'll never hear a word of it.
 

Hevva

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robert022614 said:
"All I can say is that Keller is an experienced-sounding lawyer with a website"

So did anyone else see this line as an invitation to mess with said lawyer?
Dude, did you read the experience section on her site? I wouldn't try to mess with this lady. She has Esquire after her name. The link was more or less the only info I could find on her career in law, so it was included. (Also I was totally not inviting any messings, sorry if it came off like that.)
 

GM.Casper

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ManThatYouFear said:
I know this man, don't worry people i held him down and fucked his mouth hard until all the evil was out of him.

I then slit his throat and left him for dead... you can never be to sure.
You fool! Do you know nothing? Now he will be back for sure!
You should have burned the body, mixed the ashes with holy water, used that to make a cement block, then thrown that in the deep ocean.
 

Nerexor

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I was wondering what happened with this.

I think it's pretty sad that a self published, and by all accounts, terribly written book, is somehow holding up production of a major series. Copyright litigation should not be this abusable. It's like the patent trolls who patent concepts and then sue the crap out of anyone who successfully implements them.

Unless there is a clear link (heh) between this shitty novel that nobody had ever heard of prior to this lawsuit and the game, then this is just one more greedy pathetic moron trying leech off of other people's success.
 

Grey Day for Elcia

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KeyMaster45 said:
I don't blame the lawyer, she's just doing her job defending her client. I blame the greedy scumbag who's calling dibs on a concept he didn't even invent in the first place. I direct your attention to Strange Days who's synopsis reads as such.

From IMDB said:
Set in the year 1999 during the last days of the old millenium, the movie tells the story of Lenny Nero, an ex-cop who now deals with data-discs containing recorded memories and emotions. One day he receives a disc which contains the memories of a murderer killing a prostitute. Lenny investigates and is pulled deeper and deeper in a whirl of blackmail, murder and rape. Will he survive and solve the case?
Oh well would you look at that, a story involving a character who experiences another person's memories via some fictional piece of technology. I think he should sue Kathryn Bigelow for stealing his idea 8 years before he wrote his book.

Copyright and patent trolls make me sick, I hope the bastard goes bankrupt fighting the bureaucratic shit-storm Ubisoft's lawyer's bring down on his pathetic head.
Lol. The two are reasonably different, but funny comment none-the-less. I approve :D

Nicolaus99 said:
Just a shameless money grab. Jim Sterling would approve of the 'childish' Amazon bombing of the guys book. And he'd be right.
Yeah, because Jim is a good moral compass -_-

The twat harassed a woman on Twitter and called her both a **** and a femanazi. He also goes out of his way to act like a tosser and his little "I'm a god" facade has been going on since birth, if you know what I mean. Everything that "man" does is childish, inane and wrapped in stupidity.
 

Yopaz

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Goofguy said:
I'm not going to be grabbing my pitchfork over this but I am curious, why did he wait this long? His lawyer's response about his claim being brought forward within applicable time periods has misdirection written all over it.

Reading some of those reviews is pretty funny though. I like the guy who gave Link 3 stars on the basis that he's trying to help boost the rating in apology for all the bad ones. In my opinion, none of it matters. You can't really stop the angry masses from doing this kind of thing (short of disabling comments) and you can't really appeal to them. Really, I'm just going to wait this out and see what happens.
Actually I think Amazon should make it impossible for someone who hasn't bought product through them should review it. It's possible and not too hard. It can even take that data and use it to make the recommendations they offer even better.

OT: It will be interesting to see how this case will progress, but I think the similarities of his book and Assassin's Creed are too vague to be called a copyright infringement.
 

Inkidu

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Look, if Cameron didn't get his ass sued off for plagiarizing cut-and-paste elements and names from that Russian book for Avatar there's no way this is going to stick. Besides, there's also precedence for these issues. Cross-media doesn't tend to hold up well. Look up Universal V. Nintendo, the infamous Donkey Kong versus King Kong suit.

Basically this is a publicity stunt to get interest in a passed-over novel. He's going to get some people to buy it despite the Amazon bombing (which this article is a disarm for the non-gaming public). It'll probably get dropped or they'll settle at the courthouse step.

I'll say it before and I'll say it again. There's probably copyright suits being filed every minute of every day across the world. They're the bread-and-butter of many a lawyer. The fact that they get coverage is what makes them seem so bad.
 

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Metalrocks said:
over 5M??? for a book no one knows, sold badly and got not so good ratings??? is he serious???
sounds to me he is just greedy and jealous because his book is bad. lets see what the court will say about this.
if he wins, he really needs the 5M to hire really good security guys to protect him, from really pissed off AC fans.
Yea... I can just see some idiot dressed as Ezio with a bad fake Italian accent tries to attack him with a stick coming out of his white hoodie. Hmm...

I hope that the truth will prevail. If the man has a legitimate claim to the idea of the Animus to the extent that it isn't just similar, then I hope he wins. Otherwise I want Ubisoft to make sure there is a publication ban on the proceedings so the author's name and book vanish from the face of the planet.
 

ScruffyMcBalls

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Last time this was reported on I noted that no one -bar perhaps two or three people- had even *possibly* read the book in question. And once again, people are commenting (a lot of them very angrily) about a man and his works without ever having encountered said man, or read said book. Could at least one of you try researching a topic, or at least having a firm grasp of its internal workings before commenting on it? I've made that mistake before, and it made me look like a dick, how do you think you all look? The hell of it is, someone's gonna get pissy because I said that.