Assassin's Creed Devs Don't Hate the British

[Amnestic]

See in 'Merica, we gots this here principle of citizenship called Jus soli: If he's born here, he's OURS.

"The 14th Amendment to the United States Constitution reads, in pertinent part, "All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside." Its wording was initially interpreted to exclude many Native Americans because they were not considered "subject to the jurisdiction" of the United States and, thus, were not American citizens. Congress declared it policy to extend citizenship to all Aboriginal peoples in the Indian Citizenship Act of 1924." - Wikipedia on Jus Soli

Native Americans weren't necessarily considered American Citizens until 1924.

 

[AnarchistFish]

To be fair, though, you were kind of the bad guys.

And you needed the french to win.

We'd rather lose than ally with them.

I'm half English half French and so have already been insulted twofold yay

OT: The templars are always on the side of the perceived bad guys though, so it's pretty obvious that's who the British are meant to be

 

[waj9876]

Considering what franchise we're talking about here, and how in past games it's been implied that George Washington was a Templar, I'm going to assume the British aren't the main targets. There's going to be a twist either halfway through or right at the end. And it's probably going to involve American Templars.

 

[Headdrivehardscrew]

Yeah, well, I wouldn't really touch the AC franchise with a bargepole ever since they tried to sell me the Templars as the ultimate bad guys. I kept up with the shenanigans of unlocking a video 1.5 frames at a time, but I really do have issues with slanted, forged and revisionist handling of history. And AC, unfortunately, is all that crap, and more.

Attempting to make the Poor Fellow-Soldiers of Christ and of the Temple of Solomon look like the bad guys is way lower than "No Russian". They fought our war, my war, somebody else's war and in the end, they were burnt at the stake by, well, their employer. Now, instead of humbly looking back at them in awe, we make them the bad guys. Doesn't click for me, sorry.

 

[Caveworm]

Long as it doesn't turn into Mel Gibson The Patriot.


Despite being British (not offended at all) I am bloody looking forward to using that tomahawk!

 

[AnarchistFish]

To be fair, though, you were kind of the bad guys.

And you needed the french to win.

We'd rather lose than ally with them.

I'm half English half French and so have already been insulted twofold.

A french english person?!?!?

What did you do in your past life to deserve that?

Better than being full English lol

World War 1 - We simply occupied them as that's where the germans were

The French were just as involved in WW1 than the British and suffered many many more casualties. Everyone just forgets all their battles cos they're dicks. Ever heard of the Battle of Verdun? Basically the French equivalent of the Somme (oh but the French actually won it).

WW2, well France was one of many countries to get invaded, not sure why France is picked out. Also Britain is an island, kinda a big advantage there.

 

[Cgull]

It's a hard for me to find something in that article to be annoyed at really, I mean, yes we're likely to end up wiping out half the English population (purely in terms of numbers, I know England isn't getting invaded) during the course of the game but so what? It's not real, it's not made with any malice, so why worry?

Speaking solely for myself I've spent many happy hours killing Russians, Germans, Americans and a hefty slice of Africa. I harbour no ill-will towards any of these people (well, maybe the Nazis), it's just that they're the voice attached to the digital dude I've been tasked to gleefully obliterate.

Now I've got that out of my system, can all the non-brits please look away? I'd like a word with my fellow countrymen...

*waits for door to close*

Right, seriously, guys, French 'coward' insults? Isn't it a little bit daft to resort to inaccurate lazy stereotypes in a thread where half the complaints have been about the potential upcoming use of an inaccurate lazy stereotype? For shame. I expect those sorts of shenanigans from our fat yank cousins.

*puts innocent look on face, puts bowler on head, sips tea, butters scone*

 

[Prince Regent]

Connor is half amerindian and half english. So no this game is not anti British.

 

[AnarchistFish]

To be fair, though, you were kind of the bad guys.

And you needed the french to win.

We'd rather lose than ally with them.

I'm half English half French and so have already been insulted twofold.

A french english person?!?!?

What did you do in your past life to deserve that?

Better than being full English lol

World War 1 - We simply occupied them as that's where the germans were

The French were just as involved in WW1 than the British and suffered many many more casualties. Everyone just forgets all their battles cos they're dicks. Ever heard of the Battle of Verdun? Basically the French equivalent of the Somme (oh but the French actually won it).

WW2, well France was one of many countries to get invaded, not sure why France is picked out. Also Britain is an island, kinda a big advantage there.

It's a good thing I am irish then, I can laugh at all of you.

And don't be silly, we know that after 1900 the french ceased to have an army. You never fought in any battles.

Irish eh? Well both of my countries have screwed yours

 

[Amnestic]

Connor is half amerindian and half english. So no this game is not anti British.

Depends who he's killing, really. As has been noted the marketing stuff for this has been distinctly 'Anti-British' insomuch as they're bigging up the American heritage (see: last page with the flag) and having him murder almost solely Redcoats.

Obviously the game itself might be different, but considering Ubisoft's past flubs not only with Assassin's Creed PR but as a company as a whole, we haven't been given much reason thus far to believe they will focus on Assassins vs. Templar instead of Evil Britain and the REAL AMERICAN FREEDOM LOVING ASSASSINS.

 

[Secret world leader (shhh)]

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I'll be sure to leave those guys alone when i can fhen though i'm sure they'll only be like 2/3 character models for the enemies unless the scottish are made into the "big, burly bastard" specialist class of enemy

EDIT: Just watched the developer walkthrough, i totally called it.

 

[Something Amyss]

On the other hand, given that Connor is partially Native American, he might not have all that much loyalty or fondness for the colonists that oppressed and murdered that side of his family.

It's not quite that simple. Unless, of course, I've missed a portion of his backtory that was specific to this.

While the Mohawk tended to be pro-British, there were a few pro-colonist Mohawk, including a couple of prominent ones. A good chunk of the atrocities against the Mohawk also happened after the Revolutionary War.

Also, being half-Mohawk (half-Natives represent!), he could be pulled in multiple directions or himself feel no specific ties to any side.

 

[Jon Shannow]

And here I thought you guys did want it back. You know that whole...incident in 1812. Then you guys realized it just wasn't worth it with the whole Napoleon thing.

The War of 1812 was America trying and failing to take Canada.

 

[Spygon]

I am not bothered about playing connor and killing Brits.I am more concerned that the Templar vs Assassin war is in the shadows and you can never tell which side they were on.

So if suddenly the Templars and Assassin end up mostly on one side of the war then i feel that it has lost alot of the mystery and whole the Templars are everywhere feeling.

That in my view would damage the universe of Assassin Creeds concept

 

[Krantos]

If we really wanted to keep America, we would have

Wasn't worth the loses though.

Wise decision all around. We're not sure we want it any more.

Maybe Canada Will buy it...

 

[Frankster]

Oh yeh how dare you shoot at people of my country *shakes fist*

Now i know how it feels to be russian or muslim....

 

[Bill Nye the Zombie]

See in 'Merica, we gots this here principle of citizenship called Jus soli: If he's born here, he's OURS.

"The 14th Amendment to the United States Constitution reads, in pertinent part, "All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside." Its wording was initially interpreted to exclude many Native Americans because they were not considered "subject to the jurisdiction" of the United States and, thus, were not American citizens. Congress declared it policy to extend citizenship to all Aboriginal peoples in the Indian Citizenship Act of 1924." - Wikipedia on Jus Soli

Native Americans weren't necessarily considered American Citizens until 1924.

If he becomes a citizen of the U.S. before the ratification of the Constitution, then he would be a full American citizen, with the ability to run and be elected President if he wanted to. Thats how Alexander Hamilton became a citizen.