Rogue 09 said:
Jack and Calumon said:
Ordinarily, I would see this as nothing different as killing the English crusaders in Assassin's Creed 1. In the country for dickish reasons because Britain, as everyone knows, is the bad guy of the world because we did so many bad things in the past. That's why we make the best movie villains, because British people are naturally evil. I have accepted that once my face hair sorts itself out I will be twirling my moustache as I feed another servant to my pet piranhas.
However, Conor isn't a colonist, nor totally British. He's a Native American. He's someone who lived originally here and his people and way of living were destroyed by the colonists, through disease, cheating, pillaging and raping. This was not a good guys versus bad guys war, this was a bad guys vs even badder guys war. All I ask is that Conor at least spends 5 minutes looking at the side he is fighting on and says "Jesus christ guys, what the fuck?" and maybe assassinates one.
Really, yes, that's what I want. I want Conor to kill at least one blue coat. Just one, then I'll be happy. You kill a single man in a blue coat (who is not in disguise, no cheating) and then I will be totally satisfied. I don't care if the mainstream media in America may see it as controversial that you kill one of the people who fought for independence in their great country, I want you to have the balls to say "They weren't all that good" and dirty your blade with someone tangibly responsible. Do it and I will never ever make any jokes about the connection of the French and cowardice.
I mean it.
Calumon: Please do, he won't be quiet otherwise. >.<
Get off of it. The Indians were a bunch of savages who were not strong enough (or united enough) to keep more evolved peoples from taking their stuff. Boo-Hoo, get over it. Every conquering nation from Britain to Rome to country on the freaking planet. The worst part of this is that you think that they got cheated out of anything. We wanted land, they wanted beads. Something is worth only what you are willing to take for it. Whether I spend $1 or $100 for a Dr. Pepper, I will only pay for it if I think that it's worth it. They weren't exactly given nothing by the way. How about all those nice shiny guns they got? A technical marvel they were several THOUSAND years from achieving. The weak are overtaken by the strong, which is how it is supposed to work. If they are really so in tune with nature and how life works, this would be a perfectly understandable concept.
In response to the article, no one ever thinks of the German kids to had to spend several years killing their virtual ancestors.
Okay then, gonna go through this point by point.
1. You specifically use the term "Indians" despite pretty much everyone else in the comments using the correct term "Native Americans". We're not Columbus' men, we know that America is not actually India now, so there's no need to think that as it is a factually wrong statement.
2. You assume that I want Conor to kill a single blue coat because of personal objections, and not because of the sense of betrayal that one could imagine that Conor would feel from those that brutalised his ancestors. Most of your points think that I am objecting to this on a personal note, but as I said in my post, the fact that Conor is part Native American should make him at least bitter at what the colonists did to his people.
3. Is there really a need to insult the Native Americans? They had a rather proud way of living, and quite a lot of them were peaceful most of the time. Sure they had battles amongst each other and did sometimes skin people's scalps, but we in our "civilised" world weren't much better, having greater wars and torturing and dehumanising people in cruel and unusual ways (See Spanish Inquisition and Vlad the Impaler).
4. In response to your response to the article, did you just compare the British in the game to the Nazis? The Nazis were ridiculously evil, and no-one, besides Neo-Nazis, will say so otherwise. Not a single person. Germany doesn't like to acknowledge the Nazi regime, which is why any game with reference to Nazis in Germany is either banned or is censored so that not a reference exists within the game (So German kids aren't killing all their ancestors, point is moot). The British in this era were not even close to the evil and cruelness of the Nazi regime, and thus are incomparable.
Thank you, and good day sir.
Calumon: What if we made a game where we make our own history and people just make friends because no-one really wants to hurt each other...
Right?
