Assassin's Creed Devs Don't Hate the British

[Bvenged]

Why oh Why is John Funks quote not appearing so I can snip it?!?!!?

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I still laugh at Pizza being a vegetable because of the tomato purée, though tomato's a fruit and purée is rarely even organic.

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...What? Pizza is considered a vegetable anywhere? Mind=Blown

You haven't heard? Back in November, in order to make their schools look healthier (rather than, oh I don't know, make the menus healthier like the rest of the world), the US Congress declared Pizza to be a vegetable if it contained so much tomato sauce (purée) on its base.

That's ignoring the fact that tomato sauce has so much sugar in it that some countries like the UK, shops can legally sell it as a desert; or the fact that tomato is actually a fruit in the first place... It's the most recent example of stupidity from over the sea, and it comes straight from their govt.

Well, as a resident of the United States, I for one have haven't even heard of this, and I can ALMOST guarantee you that not a single person here who isn't in congress considers pizza a vegetable...

That's what's so odd about it. It makes me wonder who exactly they were trying to fool with that ruling. How could something man-made even be a vegetable or fruit? It's just so bizarre. I remember reading about it in multiple news outlets, and none of the journalists could wrap their heads around it.

I didn't mean to cause offence, by the way, and I'm sorry if I did, it just really seems to be a regular thing with news stories at your end of the pond which make my jaw drop from losing some brain cells trying to comprehend stupidity; mind you I'm sure you've read some weird stories about things going on in Europe... For instance, I know there are EU countries run entirely by people who don't understand how money works.

 

[Da Orky Man]

To be fair, though, you were kind of the bad guys.

And you needed the french to win.

We'd rather lose than ally with them.

See? Latent historical resentment. I knew it!

If we really wanted to keep America, we would have

Wasn't worth the loses though.

And here I thought you guys did want it back. You know that whole...incident in 1812. Then you guys realized it just wasn't worth it with the whole Napoleon thing.

The war of 1812 was started by America, and resulted in bugger all.

 

[JdaS]

This has probably been said before but I'll just leave my two cents here.

Remember the first game? Half Arab, half non-descript Christian killing Muslims? How horribly one sided...
Except it wasn't. Templars were on both sides Christian and Muslim alike. It'll most probably be the same here. Hell, my money's on the Queen and ol' Washington being in cahoots at the end.

 

[Wolf In A Bear Suit]

Bit rich a white American colonist talking about liberty and equallity. It will really annoy me if they do this wrongly and go as someone wisely put it "MERICA FUCK YEA". I f they do it in the way I hope a totally unflattering representation of certain historical figures certain TV Networks (looks accusingly at fox) will have a shitfit

 

[Nash]

British... fighting British.

We still won regardless. Eh.

 

[GoaThief]

I'm not arsed about the game, as a francophile Scot I'm rather more fond of the French, and even the Yanks, than I am of the British Empire

Are you not aware of the massive role the Scottish played in the British (not English) Empire?

What are the odds that no redcoat will be sporting a thick Welsh valleys accent or similar?

Oh and this "news" article is particularly poor, shame on you Escapist.

 

[SextusMaximus]

British Civil War.
Half British Half Mohawk character.

Fighting templars, not specific to one side or the other.

No problems here! Not that I would have anyway, quite happy to kill Russians without and angst for them (in fact with some admiration, cool bastards) wouldn't have a problem killing British!

Also, Peter Serafinowicz.

 

[Absimilliard]

....British soldiers who thought that wearing bright red uniforms to one of history's first modern guerrilla wars was a good idea. (Spoiler alert: It wasn't.)....


....To be fair, though, you were kind of the bad guys.

Ahhh, the American school system; teaching simplistic nationalist drivel and calling it history.

I'm not arsed about the game, as a francophile Scot I'm rather more fond of the French, and even the Yanks, than I am of the British Empire, and Ubisoft have done a reasonable job with their alt-history so far. I am arsed by the way the fighting of the American Revolution is taught as propaganda rather than as historical fact in America. This sort of dross is the reason your children rate themselves as significantly above average, yet consistently perform substantially below average when actually tested; your school system is a bubbling mess of overconfidence, self-aggrandisement, and misinformation.

Do me a favour John, buy a few really dry academic books on this subject(not those monstrous pop-history books with propaganda artwork on the cover), you'll find the reality far more muddied and less inspirational, but hopefully more interesting for being true.

I believe it was Churchill who said something along these lines: "History will show that I was right. I know this, because I intend to write it."
(I'm not ascribing the concept of winners writing history to him, but it was well put...)

 

[Virgilthepagan]

to duck a lot of the hooah going back and forth up there, I was mostly just hoping Connor actually fights Americans too. After hearing "America the Beautiful" played at creepy child sing song speed though...guess that's not happening. Given the issues someone like Connor would've faced just dealing with the average colonist though, I'm not really clear why he's fighting for "liberty". Historically the Brits had a much better relationship with the tribes in the area.

 

[John Funk]

Rule of Funny, dude. It was a joke.

....British soldiers who thought that wearing bright red uniforms to one of history's first modern guerrilla wars was a good idea. (Spoiler alert: It wasn't.)....


....To be fair, though, you were kind of the bad guys.

Ahhh, the American school system; teaching simplistic nationalist drivel and calling it history.

I'm not arsed about the game, as a francophile Scot I'm rather more fond of the French, and even the Yanks, than I am of the British Empire, and Ubisoft have done a reasonable job with their alt-history so far. I am arsed by the way the fighting of the American Revolution is taught as propaganda rather than as historical fact in America. This sort of dross is the reason your children rate themselves as significantly above average, yet consistently perform substantially below average when actually tested; your school system is a bubbling mess of overconfidence, self-aggrandisement, and misinformation.

Do me a favour John, buy a few really dry academic books on this subject(not those monstrous pop-history books with propaganda artwork on the cover), you'll find the reality far more muddied and less inspirational, but hopefully more interesting for being true.

 

[Evil Smurf]

It is nice that Middle Easterners or Russians are not the bad guys

 

[Sacman]

Ordinarily, I would see this as nothing different as killing the English crusaders in Assassin's Creed 1. In the country for dickish reasons because Britain, as everyone knows, is the bad guy of the world because we did so many bad things in the past. That's why we make the best movie villains, because British people are naturally evil. I have accepted that once my face hair sorts itself out I will be twirling my moustache as I feed another servant to my pet piranhas.

However, Conor isn't a colonist, nor totally British. He's a Native American. He's someone who lived originally here and his people and way of living were destroyed by the colonists, through disease, cheating, pillaging and raping. This was not a good guys versus bad guys war, this was a bad guys vs even badder guys war. All I ask is that Conor at least spends 5 minutes looking at the side he is fighting on and says "Jesus christ guys, what the fuck?" and maybe assassinates one.

Really, yes, that's what I want. I want Conor to kill at least one blue coat. Just one, then I'll be happy. You kill a single man in a blue coat (who is not in disguise, no cheating) and then I will be totally satisfied. I don't care if the mainstream media in America may see it as controversial that you kill one of the people who fought for independence in their great country, I want you to have the balls to say "They weren't all that good" and dirty your blade with someone tangibly responsible. Do it and I will never ever make any jokes about the connection of the French and cowardice.

I mean it.

Calumon: Please do, he won't be quiet otherwise. >.<

Hell I'm Native American... I want to see Connor kill a little bit of everyone... no one was really the good guy or the bad guy back than... The British were invading imperialists... The colonists were gungho, genocidal, tax evaders... The French... didn't do too much that I can pull off the top of my head other than trade and make lots of fucks with the Natives... The Natives... well depending on the tribe we were guilty of a lot of stuff... but that's besides the point...<.<

Hell I want a bit of the game in the west just so we can take a bite out of those Spanish...

Or maybe that's just my Grandpa's vaguely xenophobic revenge fantasies rubbing off on me... probably... but seeing as how I'm Native American I can probably get away with it...<.<

 

[uttaku]

expect of course you know one of the main drivers for the american revolution was that Britian wouldn't let the settlers expand further west because we had treaties with the native americans and the colonists wanted to expand westard and steal all their shit. so yeah good history there...

 

[Ragland]

... Why does it matter? Bad guys kill innocent people, or are generally portrayed as doing bad things, then they're bad guys. Whatever nation they belong to is unimportant. British, or British/American? Doesn't really matter. Long as they are displayed as doing relatively evil things, then they're a justified villain.

 

[AgentLampshade]

To be honest, I'm just expecting a few snarky comments from Shaun about killing brits.

 

[OolongThePig]

I'm British and I am not offended by how the game is about killing British people and such. When you bear in mind that the English and American accents were probably very similar in those days and how modern Britain and North America are nothing like they were in the 1770s, it doesn't seem so bad. However, I will not buy it because Assassin's Creed is boring and the storyline is too hard to follow.

 

[Joshey Woshey]

I hear there's a special quicktime event where you get to suck George Washington off.

 

[chadachada123]

Now, correct me if I'm wrong, but wouldn't it be far more appropriate to have Midwestern accents in AC3 than modern British accents?

That is, that modern American English is far more like 1700's English than modern British English, like the pronunciation of H sounds and R sounds.

That's all I could think about during the demo was how historically inaccurate the accents were.

 

[OolongThePig]

And here I thought you guys did want it back. You know that whole...incident in 1812. Then you guys realized it just wasn't worth it with the whole Napoleon thing.

In the War of 1812, the USA decided to declare war on the UK so that they could expand into Canada which was owned by Britain and because generally relations between them weren't very good. The British empire repelled the invasions and used it as an excuse to attack more places in the USA. They were repelled as well. Both sides agreed on a ceasefire and returned to their pre-war boundaries. The war did not start because Britain wanted to control their former colonies again.