Assassins Creed Revelations; Is It Going Too Far?

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Stammer

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Psychotic-ishSOB said:
But: BroHo had the best combat of any AC game, and it brought incredible multiplayer. I'm looking forward to this one
It definitely had improved combat, but Brotherhood ticked me off with its frustrating secondary objectives, facepalm-inducing plot points, overpowered abilities [sub](crossbow, anyone?)[/sub], and poorly-implemented "brotherhood" feature.
 

ionveau

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After the second game i just started to skip this obvious cash in, New story same gameplay
 

Beautiful End

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Well, I don't see a problem with playing a character that's in his 50's as long as he's still badass. I mean, just because he's 50 doesn't mean that he has to wear diapers and suffers major brain farts, right? it's not like he's senile. If anything, he's just mature.
Geez, that kind of thinking is the reason why a character is considered "old" if he's older than 30.

But either way, I guess I would like to see a third assassin being introduced just to have a perfect trifecta (I don't count Desmond because he hasn't done anything impressive...so far). But you know, if the game is good and it manages to bring together all the good stuff from past games, then I'm good. Doesn't matter if it's a cash in or not.
 

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LebbyLegs said:
The French Revolution
Good to see that I am not the only one who would love to see an AC game - hell, any game - set in that time period. :3
I'd rather see the American revolution, Maybe because I'm American, but its time period is earlier (so the tech doesn't over power the game) and Desmond lineage has to cross the ocean at some point. But yeah I've been skipping the continuing stories of Ezio.
 

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I'll just wait and see. I'm not really a history buff, so the time period setting doesn't really matter to me as much as the city itself. I liked the Leonardo Da Vinci bits, but more because of the contraptions he made than anything else.

As for Ezio being too old... you're playing a guy who travels back in time through his head and retrieves his long lost memories so that he can train himself in the ancient ways of some super secret cult that is looking for a mystical apple artifact that does what again? Yeah... If I can set aside that shit, then I think I can pretend that Ezio isn't too old to assassinate people.
 

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Brotherhood just felt to me like it lacked polish. AC2's main selling point to me was polish. The gameplay was repetitive, but everything was executed so perfectly.
 

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Who knows ubisoft could be full of shet kill off ezio in like the second level and then BAM!! victorian era england/france ... Remember they did it with movie scream? because they marketed drew barrymore as the star then killed her in the first 20 minutes... food for thought mannn
 

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Maybe people just like Ezio and Ubisoft are trying to give the fans what they want?

That does seem the naive way of putting it but if you can have a cash in and still make your fan base happy (for the most part) than why not? Why wouldn't do that?
 

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Depends when it's set, since the 1400's were pretty turbulent for Constantinople, is it going to be Mehmed II we're fighting or Constantine XI? Why do I suspect the last boss of Ezio's part to be Vlad Tepes...
 

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Beautiful End said:
Well, I don't see a problem with playing a character that's in his 50's as long as he's still badass. I mean, just because he's 50 doesn't mean that he has to wear diapers and suffers major brain farts, right? it's not like he's senile. If anything, he's just mature.
Geez, that kind of thinking is the reason why a character is considered "old" if he's older than 30.

But either way, I guess I would like to see a third assassin being introduced just to have a perfect trifecta (I don't count Desmond because he hasn't done anything impressive...so far). But you know, if the game is good and it manages to bring together all the good stuff from past games, then I'm good. Doesn't matter if it's a cash in or not.
I wasn't saying his age was a problem, if anything I think it would bring in a number of humorous moments :p
In Assassins Creed Brotherhood when he's forty, early on a doctor calls him old and he bitterly mutters to himself something like 'Old? I'm not old... what an idiot.' Which made me chuckle.
I'd like Ezio to still be young at heart, but trapped in a middle aged body XD
 

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LebbyLegs said:
Beautiful End said:
Well, I don't see a problem with playing a character that's in his 50's as long as he's still badass. I mean, just because he's 50 doesn't mean that he has to wear diapers and suffers major brain farts, right? it's not like he's senile. If anything, he's just mature.
Geez, that kind of thinking is the reason why a character is considered "old" if he's older than 30.

But either way, I guess I would like to see a third assassin being introduced just to have a perfect trifecta (I don't count Desmond because he hasn't done anything impressive...so far). But you know, if the game is good and it manages to bring together all the good stuff from past games, then I'm good. Doesn't matter if it's a cash in or not.
I wasn't saying his age was a problem, if anything I think it would bring in a number of humorous moments :p
In Assassins Creed Brotherhood when he's forty, early on a doctor calls him old and he bitterly mutters to himself something like 'Old? I'm not old... what an idiot.' Which made me chuckle.
I'd like Ezio to still be young at heart, but trapped in a middle aged body XD
I'm betting he doesn't play as big a role, as in if he's playable at all it's only for a while. I'm probably wrong, but I can't see him being more than a leader unless this happens days after Brotherhood. What WOULD be interesting is if Altair is somehow still alive due to apple overuse and he takes Ezio's son under his wing. I can't see any reason to even hint at Altair having a leading role unless he was somehow actually featured in the main story.
 

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Assassin's Creed Brotherhood didn't do much to advance the animus story, but it did a lot for the modern times story.

What was REALLY good about Brotherhood, was the increase in quality of presentation, the refining and additions to gameplay, and side-missions. However, the more substantial side-missions resulted in the actual storyline having only like, 3 assassinations, and many of the new mechanics didn't have much of a purpose.

I think this is down to them not having a big enough team on the game. For Revelations, however, the main Montreal studio alone is 200+ employees, and certain parts of the game are handled by 6+ smaller ubisoft studios around the world.

This means that Revelations will have more content. As well, the game is going to be about giving you a really amazing sandbox to work in, and then punctuating that with cinematic moments, which flow naturally through that, because of the integration of gameplay in them, similar to Uncharted.

The whole design philosiphy seems really great, and the features they're introducing seem a lot more relevant than what we got in brotherhood, and most of the brotherhood features are being refined or consolidated. For example, brotherhood allowed you to throw bombs when locked on a target. Revelations is introducing bomb crafting, which allows you to make whatever type of bomb you want for your playstyle, like flash-bombs, damaging-bombs, smoke bombs, (and more that they haven't talked about), and add ingredients together to minutely change the characteristics of each type. Such as making your smoke bomb have a bigger area of effect at the cost of the time it lasts, or making the smoke poisionous at the cost of it only affecting a really small area.

Ok, now I want to talk about Brotherhood. OP, you call it a cash in, but it was only a little bit shorter than AC2 if you did all the side-content, which was better than any side-content previously seen in AC.

It was magnitudes more fun to mess around in than AC2, and it actually had a significant graphical increase.

It was just plain fun to play. I can't call anything a cash in if I get more than 30 hours of fun out of it. And that's just single-player.

Multiplayer suffered from long times to get a game, and lag, but it is really unique to anything I've ever played. It was about as far away from cash in multiplayer as you could get! Just look at bioshock 2 for that. Bioshock 2's multi was kinda fun, but the polish just was not there, and the lag was incredible, and the controls sluggish.

Then compare to Brotherhood: abilities that are balanced, games that are won not by the amount of kills that you get, but by how stylishly you get them, or by how well you frustrate your pursuer, mechanics that are slick and work just as they're intended.

Brotherhood was made to make money, yes. But Ubisoft said "Hey, if our boss tells us to make more so fast, lets make them freaking awesome!" And now Ubisoft has given them the tools to make an even bigger leap than AC2 to Brotherhood!

Revelations is in Turkey, and Ezio has a totally different visual style. It's not really a change of character or time, all that much, but interesting things happened in that part of the world at that time.

But really, what other series gets so much flak for using the same character for 3 games in a row at different points in his life? 3 is not a lot. Ubisoft thinks of Ac2, brotherhood, and revelations as part of the Ezio trilogy. AC3 will be the third part of the Desmond trilogy, with a new ancestor, setting, and probably some assassinations with Desmond in modern times.

Releasing all these games has given them a lot of practice with implementing features, so they'll be pros at it by AC3.

EDIT: I'm betting he doesn't play as big a role, as in if he's playable at all it's only for a while. I'm probably wrong, but I can't see him being more than a leader unless this happens days after Brotherhood. What WOULD be interesting is if Altair is somehow still alive due to apple overuse and he takes Ezio's son under his wing. I can't see any reason to even hint at Altair having a leading role unless he was somehow actually featured in the main story.

Ezio is on a quest to find seals that Altair recorded his memories animus-style on, and then bring them to Masyaf to unlock a weapon that Altair found. But yeah, Altair's dead. We'llbe playing him through the sequences that Ezio experiences when he finds each seal.
 

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yeah when i heard that Ezio was STILL going to be in it i thought cash-in as well. HOWEVER i am letting this one go on the count that Ubisoft have confirmed this will be the LAST game to feature Ezio and Altair.

Constantinople is still an interesting place that hasn't been touched by games that much. Apparently the city is sloped so there will be a lot of zip-lines and such so it already sounds like it will be fun to navigate through the city.
 

WolfThomas

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Wait a minute, if Ezio is old in the memories, that means he hasn't fathered a kid yet to pass the memories down through. He should probably get on to that.
 

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I loved brotherhood because it continued the story; Ubi said 3 will be the new and final subject but bh and reve sum up Ezio's life and I am sure it will be great
 
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I'm going to copy paste in what i said in another similar thread

"Assassin's creed is one of my favorite series ever. And yes, I was much more excited when I saw the first glimpses of AC2 and it was assassins in a different period and place but the thing is, we know this is the last Ezio game and it looks great so I'm not complaining. I don't think Assassin's Creed is going anywhere, and I think that there will be plenty more chances for Ubisoft to expand on the franchise as a whole. I like the look of moving to the ottoman empire and right now I'm happy where the series is and i think I will be just as happy or happier when we switch timelines."