Assassin's Creed- your opinion

[itsausernamewhatofit]

Well no, I have to disagree with you there on the 100% thing because it made the missions that bit more difficult and added more of a reason to be stealthy- just because you can take on every guard in Rome single-handedly as long as you have thumbs doesn't mean you should, necessarily.
...Although I can appreciate where you're coming from, it did make it half frustrating at times...

I have to say, the other thing that I disliked about the minions was that once they reached the highest level all of the things I'd been customising the whole time was maxed out and they all turned into clones. I liked the individuality of it all, it made them seem less like AIs.

Well to be fair there were missions where I thought 100% sync was necessary and I enjoyed it. The reason it bothers me so much is because of the huge number of times the thing they gave me to do was so incredibly pointless. So i suppose I wouldn't mind 100% sync if it was always done well, but the thing is it wasn't.

And yeah I wish assassin customization was more in depth and carried through. Why not have a system where you buy existing armor from the game for your recruits? It's not like they would have to add much because the armor is already there but it would add quite a bit to the system. Maybe have recruits who, when recruited, specialize in a specific weapon or armor. Kinda like what MGS: Peace Walker did.

 

[Goofguy]

While I would really like to see the next numbered Assassin's Creed game in the series, I like the idea of a different city (Constantinople) that we'll most likely be seeing during the times of both Altair and Ezio.

 

[Daaaah Whoosh]

The way you put it, Ezio was in the same setting for his two games, but that's not entirely true. Rome is a lot different from Venice, and I really felt that in Brotherhood. To me, the series just needs a new protagonist. Or, they could try developing Desmond more, although that would probably turn into an epic fail.

Yes, I'm sorry for that but the point was we're he was still the Italian Assassin in Italy. When you look at how many settings they have at their disposal, setting it in the same country was a bit... unwise, even though it didn't detract anything from the game at all. And I do agree, Desmond's already been characterised as genuinely shit compared to Altair and Ezio. As long as he keeps his gorramn mouth shut most of the time he could get away with it.

I think the problem is that they jumped too far. There's a lot between the Dark Ages and the Renaissance, and now it'll be hard to use, since they already skipped it. Now, they just need to find a large enough historic moment after the Renaissance and before the widespread use of the firearm. Oh wait...
I think the French Revolution was mentioned at some point as something they didn't use, that'd be cool.

 

[DustyDrB]

I can't wait for it, I am totally gay for Ezio and am digging that rather dashing old man's beard on him.

Add another groupie to the list. Stabbing people to death has never been so sexy.

I'm very much looking forward to more Assassin's Creed. It does make me wary to see them put out so rapidly, but I will not complain until I see a drastic drop in quality. Things have just been getting better so far.

 

[ImprovizoR]

I love Assassin's Creed and honestly I can't wait to see what's gonna happen with Ezio in Revelations. It's kinda nice to follow one character from his teenage years until he's in his 50's. Maybe he'll die in the end. Whatever happens to him, I'm sure it will be epic. And Ezio's story deserves an epic conclusion. But I'm also excited to see how Desmond will turn out to be the ultimate assassin. You guys are forgetting that Ezio was nothing more than a womanizer and a troubled kid before he became the epic assassin he is. We might see such a transformation with Desmond as well. I think he is a likable character as well. I don't understand all the hate.

 

[playinthedark]

Totally agree. Ezio was a great character in AC2, but his presence in Brotherhood just wasn't as special as the first time around. Hopefully once they're past their Ezio obsession they'll move onto a new character, which I suspect AC3 will be (they just had more AC2 story to tell I guess).

AC3 should be set in the French Revolution and use Charlotte Corday as the main character. Maybe not entirely historically accurate, but when has historical accuracy ever stood in the way of a good idea?

 

[Ace of Spades]

I've been bored of Renaissance Italy since the end of Assassin's Creed II, but not of Ezio as a character, and the new setting in Constantinople/Istanbul is enough for me not to complain.

 

[Ursus Buckler]

@itsausernamewhatofit
See, I like that idea, that was what I was trying to do with it in the first place. I hope that's what they do for Revelations.
@ImprovizoR
oh, I 100% agree with you on that one. I'd rather he burned out than faded away. Maybe both his and Altair's stories will be concluded? *strokes beard*

 

[CpnChaos]

Personally, I feel slightly conflicted about the third game in three years. See, I dislike Activision for running well made franchises into the ground, or letting good games die because they are not franchise-able, a la Brutal Legend. ANd now, Ubisoft is doing the same thing here.

But, two things are keeping me from hating this practice:

1) Assassin's Creed has taken steps to improve its self with every iteration, and it values all parts of a game. Call of Duty is still running off of it's same engine since Modern Warfare, and only creates what amount to mere distractions from its (admittedly well crafted) multilayer.

2) Ubisoft uses it's money to fund other unique games and experiences, and even it's own popular library is more than just the standard FPS craze. Not to say CoD has it's place, but Activision seems content with resting on it's laurels, refusing to innovate and push our loved medium forward.

 

[OrokuSaki]

..... I agree with the main focus but not the details. Ezio was a more interesting character but not really a better one BECAUSE of the personality given him (which I find to be obnoxious). But if you really think about it, Altair was much more in-character than Ezio. He's an ASSASSIN he's supposed to lack a personality, you give him a name, he gives you a corpse it's an elegant system. Give Ezio a name and he'll give you a 20 minute speech about his blood vengeance against the Borgia and then MAYBE he'll kill somebody. Other times he lets THE MAIN VILLAIN LIVE for no adequately explained reason.

At least Altair understood what he was doing. He was killing people, not putting on a song and dance or giving money to the street whores he was a murderer. But I would have liked to have seen more main character assassins. Maybe the ancestors of Desmond's little squad.

If Desmond is an assassin by massive blood lineage nonsense then logically shouldn't the other 3 be as well? Where are their stories? And while I'm ranting about inconsistencies why are they teaching someone in the future to use an assortment of swords and knives? I want there to be just one scene in AC3 where one of the templars pulls a gun and Desmond just stares impotently at his little knife.

But i'm probably going to play revelations and go "Oh wow, it's moron again" after I'm done forcing myself to beat Brotherhood.

 

[Waaghpowa]

So back when I played the first one, I thought it was alright. Overall, it was a pile of crap. Mindless repetition of the same objectives per city was part of the reason why I couldn't finish it.

Second one came out, definite improvement. I actually finished it.

Third one came out, I couldn't be fucked to get it. When I saw that they were going to back to Italy to play as Ezio again, I said fuck it. For a Series that involves reliving the genetic memories of your ancestors, they sure were short on ideas for new locations and times.

As some people said before me, a Japanese Assassin's Creed in feudal Japan would be awesome. Although there are other ninja games out there whose titles currently elude me. I also felt stealth was handled rather poorly. Ghosting someone in a crowd, done rather well. Other than that I didn't feel it was too great.

 

[Ursus Buckler]

I think the problem is that they jumped too far. There's a lot between the Dark Ages and the Renaissance, and now it'll be hard to use, since they already skipped it. Now, they just need to find a large enough historic moment after the Renaissance and before the widespread use of the firearm. Oh wait...
I think the French Revolution was mentioned at some point as something they didn't use, that'd be cool.

Ah, I'm not familiar with this time period. To be honest, most of my 'knowledge' of history is based on the Assassin's Creed games. :L

Don't judge me. :L

 

[Ursus Buckler]

..... I agree with the main focus but not the details. Ezio was a more interesting character but not really a better one BECAUSE of the personality given him (which I find to be obnoxious). But if you really think about it, Altair was much more in-character than Ezio. He's an ASSASSIN he's supposed to lack a personality, you give him a name, he gives you a corpse it's an elegant system. Give Ezio a name and he'll give you a 20 minute speech about his blood vengeance against the Borgia and then MAYBE he'll kill somebody. Other times he lets THE MAIN VILLAIN LIVE for no adequately explained reason.

At least Altair understood what he was doing. He was killing people, not putting on a song and dance or giving money to the street whores he was a murderer. But I would have liked to have seen more main character assassins. Maybe the ancestors of Desmond's little squad.

If Desmond is an assassin by massive blood lineage nonsense then logically shouldn't the other 3 be as well? Where are their stories? And while I'm ranting about inconsistencies why are they teaching someone in the future to use an assortment of swords and knives? I want there to be just one scene in AC3 where one of the templars pulls a gun and Desmond just stares impotently at his little knife.

But i'm probably going to play revelations and go "Oh wow, it's moron again" after I'm done forcing myself to beat Brotherhood.

Ahh, Ezio isn't going to live that one down, is he. :L
And yeah, I do like the idea of Desmond's ancestors being aided by ancestors of the other three, that'd be pretty cool I guess, if handled properly... we wouldn't want the same four characters just dressed in clothes of the time period going around solving mysteries, now would we.
But I do wonder how you get someone as bland as Desmond out of a lineage of Altair and Ezio. Who the hell did he inherit his 'personality' from?

 

[philosophicalbastard]

I love Assassin's Creed and honestly I can't wait to see what's gonna happen with Ezio in Revelations. It's kinda nice to follow one character from his teenage years until he's in his 50's. Maybe he'll die in the end. Whatever happens to him, I'm sure it will be epic. And Ezio's story deserves an epic conclusion.

Technically, Ezio can't die while you play as him according to the rules of the Animus. So if Ezio gets lucky in Revelations you'll stop playing as him, just like that section in AC2 with Altair.

OT: I've loved all of the Assassin's Creed series and I'm really looking forward to Revelations. Brotherhood was a bit dry in the story department, but the gameplay was fun, from what I've heard of Revelations it seems they rectified this.

 

[RetardedKitty]

..... Give Ezio a name and he'll give you a 20 minute speech about his blood vengeance against the Borgia and then MAYBE he'll kill somebody. Other times he lets THE MAIN VILLAIN LIVE for no adequately explained reason....

Not to make any argue but as a joke, Altair worked in opposite way, give him a target to kill and then listen to the target for 20 minute speech how they were good and wanted to create order. At least with Ezio i didn't have to wonder why they didn't kill him yet when he had a conversation with a body ;p

 

[OrokuSaki]

Ahh, Ezio isn't going to live that one down, is he. :L
And yeah, I do like the idea of Desmond's ancestors being aided by ancestors of the other three, that'd be pretty cool I guess, if handled properly... we wouldn't want the same four characters just dressed in clothes of the time period going around solving mysteries, now would we.
But I do wonder how you get someone as bland as Desmond out of a lineage of Altair and Ezio. Who the hell did he inherit his 'personality' from?

No, he won't. They built a whole extra game around it and Ezio let UbiSoft do it so he gets punished for eternity.

And Desmond's father was probably a stamp collector or something and ruined the long line of interesting people.

 

[Foxblade618]

I love AC as a series, it just gets better and better with every iteration. Brotherhood was a fantastic game that I did not feel was superfluous, like many others. Ubisoft keeps making these games better, in terms of characterization and mechanics (especially). As far as the minions, I rather enjoyed the system they used, although I do wish it was a little deeper (as some said, I wish we could have made each one a specialist in something or give them each special unique weapons/armor/etc...). But I really enjoyed the system that let you read up on a situation and send assassins based on stats (but it could be that I am boring and enjoy some desk-work to breakup the action/platforming awesomeness).