Atheism Shouldn't Exist

[spartan231490]

But atheism is not the absence of any system of belief. It is a system of belief just like a religion is. This is a very half-hearted attempt to insult religion, and it's not half as clever as it's trying to be.

Atheism isn't a belief system. Atheism is the lack of a belief system. Atheism is saying "you can't show me any proof." It isn't saying "I believe you can't show me nay proof."

I don't even know what you were trying to say, lol.

No, if anything, agnostic is lack of belief system, because you're undecided and waiting on evidence. An Atheist believes that there is no god or afterlife. And that is a system of belief.

 

[devildark91]

No, if anything, agnostic is lack of belief system, because you're undecided and waiting on evidence. An Atheist believes that there is no god or afterlife. And that is a system of belief.

You'r missing the entire point..

Atheists think that there is no evidence of a god, not that there IS no god.

What you'r going for is "Anti-Theism", wich is the belief that there is no god.

 

[Aurgelmir]

I think atheism is more about not worshipping a God

Oh god... Seriously... Please, try to understand...

Atheism means no one has shown evidence that there is a god and therefor you are choosing not to believe. Agnosticism means you believe there could be a god.

Please... understand...

Atheism is the lack of belief, not the belief in lacking. Atheists have NOTHING to do with religion because they don't have nay beliefs.

Nope. An atheist doesn't believe in god. its in the freaking word. Atheist comes from the word Theist, from the greek word Theos which means god.
A Theist is omeone who believes in god, plain and simple. Therefore an atheist is someone who doesn't believe in a god.
This means that for instance Buddhists are atheists.

Atheism has nothing to do with the proof of gods existence. It just means that you don't believe in a god. Which is why I don't see there being any problem having the word in our vocabulary.
If you remove the word Atheist, yu might as well remove the word Theist, and with it Theology...

 

[Oirish_Martin]

But atheism is not the absence of any system of belief. It is a system of belief just like a religion is. This is a very half-hearted attempt to insult religion, and it's not half as clever as it's trying to be.

Atheism isn't a belief system. Atheism is the lack of a belief system. Atheism is saying "you can't show me any proof." It isn't saying "I believe you can't show me nay proof."

I don't even know what you were trying to say, lol.

But atheism is not the absence of any system of belief. It is a system of belief just like a religion is. This is a very half-hearted attempt to insult religion, and it's not half as clever as it's trying to be.

Atheism isn't a belief system. Atheism is the lack of a belief system. Atheism is saying "you can't show me any proof." It isn't saying "I believe you can't show me nay proof."

I don't even know what you were trying to say, lol.

No, if anything, agnostic is lack of belief system, because you're undecided and waiting on evidence. An Atheist believes that there is no god or afterlife. And that is a system of belief.

This needs to be stickied to the top of every thread about atheism, because this mistake gets made all the time:

There is more than one kind of atheism.

To give an explanation of the main ones:

Weak atheism doesn't claim the non-existence of god but maintains that the burden of proof is on those claim his existence (in much the same way as we expect proof positive of any posited existent entity), and that the cases made so far for deities are inadequate.

Strong atheism, on the other hand, does make a positive claim that no gods exist.

(Agnosticism is a matter of whether the existence or nonexistence of god can be actually known, not merely someone who's on the fence. It is also possible to be an agnostic atheist, in that one can simultaneously not hold an active belief in a deity and consider the matter to be beyond knowledge)

 

[Aerosteam]

Being an Atheist is about not believing the existence of a supreme being/beings. It isn't about not being part of a religion.

Wait... You just try and say you can believe there is no god and still be part of a religion?

Look up Buddhism.

Don't try telling him that he's wrong, he'll just ignore you and shout even louder, with even more brightly colored text.

Note I've given him the actual definition of the word, and he's still pretending it doesn't exist. Irony!!!

Even...

THIS!?

 

[spartan231490]

No, if anything, agnostic is lack of belief system, because you're undecided and waiting on evidence. An Atheist believes that there is no god or afterlife. And that is a system of belief.

You'r missing the entire point..

Atheists think that there is no evidence of a god, not that there IS no god.

What you'r going for is "Anti-Theism", wich is the belief that there is no god.

But atheism is not the absence of any system of belief. It is a system of belief just like a religion is. This is a very half-hearted attempt to insult religion, and it's not half as clever as it's trying to be.

Atheism isn't a belief system. Atheism is the lack of a belief system. Atheism is saying "you can't show me any proof." It isn't saying "I believe you can't show me nay proof."

I don't even know what you were trying to say, lol.

But atheism is not the absence of any system of belief. It is a system of belief just like a religion is. This is a very half-hearted attempt to insult religion, and it's not half as clever as it's trying to be.

Atheism isn't a belief system. Atheism is the lack of a belief system. Atheism is saying "you can't show me any proof." It isn't saying "I believe you can't show me nay proof."

I don't even know what you were trying to say, lol.

No, if anything, agnostic is lack of belief system, because you're undecided and waiting on evidence. An Atheist believes that there is no god or afterlife. And that is a system of belief.

This needs to be stickied to the top of every thread about atheism, because this mistake gets made all the time:

There is more than one kind of atheism.

To give an explanation of the main ones:

Weak atheism doesn't claim the non-existence of god but maintains that the burden of proof is on those claim his existence (in much the same way as we expect proof positive of any posited existent entity), and that the cases made so far for deities are inadequate.

Strong atheism, on the other hand, does make a positive claim that no gods exist.

(Agnosticism is a matter of whether the existence or nonexistence of god can be actually known, not merely someone who's on the fence. It is also possible to be an agnostic atheist, in that one can simultaneously not hold an active belief in a deity and consider the matter to be beyond knowledge)

The fact that you can define it that clearly, means it's still a belief system.

 

[dontlooknow]

Fair enough, I do agree with your statement. I suppose I misspoke when I stated universe, because that would likely have finite boundaries. However, if we open up to the theory of inflation which in turn would lead to the notion of a multiverse... well that would certainly make things a little more limitless.

I see - a miltiverse certainly would crank up the limitlessness of it all. I suppose I'd rather consider the limitlessness of the human mind - I believe that my actions, and the effects of them on people around me have a reverberating effect on society. This self-relative nature of society means that the attitudes and behaviours that pervade society approach a state that I'd carefully regard as something approaching a god, or a sort of ubiquitous intelligence. But that's just me.

Athiesm isn't strictly a belief system of it's own, but an attribute to some religions. A religion that doesn't deal with gods, but instead spirits and ghosts, would be atheistic.

Really? I'm sorry, I don't really know what to do with that statement, apart from say that Richard Dawkins might not agree. But if I'm wrong, then doesn't that mean that someone who believed in both Yahweh and fairies would have to be described as being 'a bit atheistic'?

 

[Tanakh]

Atheism isn't a belief system. Atheism is the lack of a belief system. Atheism is saying "you can't show me any proof." It isn't saying "I believe you can't show me nay proof."

God, you are dense. Don't say "atheism", say I, because you do not represent atheism; and yes, you are saying "I believe you can't show me nay proof.", unless you prove it, can you?

Edit:

Atheism: no one has shown proof there is a god.

Or otherwise, therefore you can establish as an axiom one or the other without incurring on a contradiction.

 

[Grey Day for Elcia]

Being an Atheist is about not believing the existence of a supreme being/beings. It isn't about not being part of a religion.

Wait... You just try and say you can believe there is no god and still be part of a religion?

Look up Buddhism.

If you look behind you about ten miles, you may notice the context you blazed past. The original comment I quoted was suggesting Atheists could be religious, but not believe in a god. So, you either ignored it entirely and rushed to try and one-up me, or you believe Atheism and Buddhism are one in the same.

Please, don't try and defined your statement with out of context jabs. You and I both know exactly the mistake you made and this won't save face.

 

[Grey Day for Elcia]

unless you prove it, can you?

Go ahead and show me one instance of someone showing proof there is a god.

I'll wait.

 

[Warped_Ghost]

Then perhaps we should also remove the word free from the dictionary since there is no need to state an absence of price or absence of some sort of overlord.

Yeah, you seem to have missed the point entirely.

Let me explain: free means no price. The 'thing' being described is the lack of repayment required. Atheism means not religious. But religion shouldn't be accepted by default; you shouldn't need to state that you aren't religious. It is reasonable to expect an object or service to require payment, so it is also reasonable to use the word free. Why should it be reasonable to expect someone to have a religious perspective? The terms (free and Atheism) are being used to describe lack of what is otherwise implied--if everything was free or it was rare for anything not to be free, the term wouldn't exist.

If you still don't get it: Atheism can only exist in a world where people are expected to be religious by default--a.k.a.: a fucked up world--and need to inform others otherwise.

There is a word for people who have not decided or looked to hard in the matter. It is called agnostic. Atheism is just when you personally don't believe in a deity, higher power, or grand universal scheme.

The captcha is asking me to describe lowe's with any word(s). Is it just me or are theses captchas getting easy fast?

 

[Tanakh]

unless you prove it, can you?

Go ahead and show me one instance of someone showing proof there is a god.

I'll wait.

Ahh, yeah, as much as anything can be proven outside the realm of mathematics. It's an entire branch of theology called chatolic apologetics, i would start with "City of God" by Saint Agustine.

And that was not what i written mate...

 

[Trippy Turtle]

Maybe we should remove theist because they don't have to identify themselves as non athiests. the English language is annoying enough as it is. Please wait until I am out of school before giving more reasons for my English teacher to give me a ton of poorly explained work.

 

[Grey Day for Elcia]

The captcha is asking me to describe lowe's with any word(s). Is it just me or are theses captchas getting easy fast?

I always type something like "shit," or "expensive" to describe the brands. Not because it works. But because I hope they collect the info and the brands read the answers. I bloody hate advertising and I especially hate it like this.

 

[dontlooknow]

Fair enough, I do agree with your statement. I suppose I misspoke when I stated universe, because that would likely have finite boundaries. However, if we open up to the theory of inflation which in turn would lead to the notion of a multiverse... well that would certainly make things a little more limitless.

I see - a miltiverse certainly would crank up the limitlessness of it all. I suppose I'd rather consider the limitlessness of the human mind - I believe that my actions, and the effects of them on people around me have a reverberating effect on society. This self-relative nature of society means that the attitudes and behaviours that pervade society approach a state that I'd carefully regard as something approaching a god, or a sort of ubiquitous intelligence. But that's just me.

Athiesm isn't strictly a belief system of it's own, but an attribute to some religions. A religion that doesn't deal with gods, but instead spirits and ghosts, would be atheistic.

Really? I'm sorry, I don't really know what to do with that statement, apart from say that Richard Dawkins might not agree. But if I'm wrong, then doesn't that mean that someone who believed in both Yahweh and fairies would have to be described as being 'a bit atheistic'?

Is that sarcasm I detect? Because i'm honestly not quite sure.

Haha, no. But you are mistaking my ignorance for sarcasm, and for that I'm grateful.

 

[Tanakh]

To clarify, what i am saying is that beliveing or not is just a theological choice. Neither can be proved and both are faiths, which is fine, myth and faith are not dirty words, we are just a curious kind of mammals, we need to belive in something. You belive that god doesn't exsist? Fine, you belive that is "logic and scientific" fine, but unless you can give me a proof that he doesn't, it's just faith, which is also fine.