Atheism Shouldn't Exist

[Grey Day for Elcia]

So what, if somebody asks me what religion I am

"None."

I don't really know how else to explain that, lol.

 

[Tanakh]

Absence of theism doesn't mean you believe there is no god. It means you don't believe anything. If you believe there is no god, you are saying there is enough evidence to make that claim (a belief in and of itself). Atheists believe no one has shown any evidence of anything at all.

Yep, including that there is no evidence to believe that no one has shown any evidence of anything at all or that there is no God, wait a second... then you are believing that on pure faith don't you? Gratz on believing in atheism. Dear Lord, this thread is dumb.

 

[ShaqLevick]

Well I for one think the majority of you here are wrong. Because you see without any definitive

proof to the fact that God doesn't exist, surely scientifically it must be valid on some level.

Therefore Atheism is clearly a belief system, and a very cynical one at that. Perhaps it would

have been better to equate Agnostic belief to true neutral, because believing in a possibility of

God isn't a misguided endeavor, it's simply waiting on all the facts to come in.

In an infinitely large universe it is certain there is an infinite number of possibilities. And

who the hell are we, all wise humans to simply state an impossibility in any form whatsoever!

 

[Grey Day for Elcia]

No I didn't. Is English a second language to you?

Oh cool, now you aren't even trying to hide your insults. I won't bother feeding you, but feel free to continue trying (and failing) to attack me. I'll be over there, having intelligent conversations that don't involve throwing around childish jabs. I wouldn't want to be the cause of anyone getting a third warning.

 

[Grey Day for Elcia]

Absence of theism doesn't mean you believe there is no god. It means you don't believe anything. If you believe there is no god, you are saying there is enough evidence to make that claim (a belief in and of itself). Atheists believe no one has shown any evidence of anything at all.

Yep, including that there is no evidence to believe that no one has shown any evidence of anything at all or that there is no God, wait a second... then you are believing that on pure faith don't you? Gratz on believing in atheism. Dear Lord, this thread is dumb.

Wait... what?

Anti-theism: there is no god.

Atheism: no one has shown proof there is a god.

Agnosticism: there could be a god.

Theism: there is a god.

 

[Frostbyte666]

Who here has ever had to fill in a form where it asks religion. What would you write it you are not in a religion, not applicable maybe, but that doesn't convey the same information as atheist would. Besides if so called gods are proven I'd just believe they are entities with a long life span, a lot of personal power and far to big an ego and since they like using humans in the ultimate version of big brother I'd find a way to destroy them.

 

[Spambot 3000]

Atheism is the belief system of atheists.

No, its not. I don't know why this gets bandied about so much, or why it needs to be pointed out how blatantly wrong it is, but it gets a little tiring.

There is no 'system', nor is there actually a belief; atheism is defined by a lack of belief. One absence of belief does not make a freaking belief system.

Since you obviously haven't realised, I already admitted I was wrong, as someone else pointed out the flaw in my statement.
So thanks for information, but someone already beat you to it.

 

[Kennetic]

Religion came first, so they get first dibs on picking a name. Being a-something suggests reacting against a norm, which religion has been for a long time, hence atheist.

I like the quote, and I would be interested if someone could think up a good name for atheists that stands on its own instead of in opposition to religion

Not really opposition (that would be antitheist), but rather the lack thereof

 

[Grey Day for Elcia]

Who here has ever had to fill in a form where it asks religion. What would you write it you are not in a religion.

"None."

I can't just post one word, but I don't think I can add to that, lol.

 

[orangeban]

But there are different types of atheism, you get agnostic atheism and gnostic atheism. How are we meant to distinguish those two types without using the word atheist?

You can't be a something Atheist or an Atheist something. That's a misnomer. Atheists don't believe anything. Period. Done. Full stop. If you are an Atheists who believes there might be a god or a higher power, you aren't an Atheist.

That's like calling yourself a carnivorousness vegan; you either are or you aren't.

Not true, like I said, you get gnostic and agnostic atheism.

Gnostic atheism is where you know there isn't a God.

Agnostic atheism is where you don't know if there's a God or not, but you choose not to worship any.

I'm an agnostic atheist since I don't know if there's a God or not, and I don't see how some people can claim there is definetly not a God, they have no proof.

 

[dontlooknow]

Well I for one think the majority of you here are wrong. Because you see without any definitive

proof to the fact that God doesn't exist, surely scientifically it must be valid on some level.

Therefore Atheism is clearly a belief system, and a very cynical one at that. Perhaps it would

have been better to equate Agnostic belief to true neutral, because believing in a possibility of

God isn't a misguided endeavor, it's simply waiting on all the facts to come in.

In an infinitely large universe it is certain there is an infinite number of possibilities. And

who the hell are we, all wise humans to simply state an impossibility in any form whatsoever!

I agree with you entirely - that's very close to what I believe except for one thing: that the universe is 'infinitely large'? How do you know this?

Certainly, our current understanding of the cosmos is limited, leading to what might be argued to be an infinite number of possibilities 'over the horizon,' so to speak, but I thought it was fairly well established that our universe was finite.

 

[Grey Day for Elcia]

But there are different types of atheism, you get agnostic atheism and gnostic atheism. How are we meant to distinguish those two types without using the word atheist?

You can't be a something Atheist or an Atheist something. That's a misnomer. Atheists don't believe anything. Period. Done. Full stop. If you are an Atheists who believes there might be a god or a higher power, you aren't an Atheist.

That's like calling yourself a carnivorousness vegan; you either are or you aren't.

Not true, like I said, you get gnostic and agnostic atheism.

Gnostic atheism is where you know there isn't a God.

Agnostic atheism is where you don't know if there's a God or not, but you choose not to worship any.

I'm an agnostic atheist since I don't know if there's a God or not, and I don't see how some people can claim there is definetly not a God, they have no proof.

Seriously... No.

Atheism means no one has proven any god exists or doesn't exist. That's it. Done. No more. If you believe there might be a god, you are Agnostic. If you believe there is no god, you are anti-theist. Atheism, by definition, means no one has shown any evidence and you cannot believe something one way or the other without evidence. You can't just add a word to something like that; you can't say you are a not-racist hater of African Americans.

 

[Vhite]

While we at it, can we remove word "asexual"? I haven't yet seen a person that wasn't either a man or a woman.

 

[Hoplon]

Well I for one think the majority of you here are wrong. Because you see without any definitive

proof to the fact that God doesn't exist, surely scientifically it must be valid on some level.

Therefore Atheism is clearly a belief system, and a very cynical one at that. Perhaps it would

have been better to equate Agnostic belief to true neutral, because believing in a possibility of

God isn't a misguided endeavor, it's simply waiting on all the facts to come in.

In an infinitely large universe it is certain there is an infinite number of possibilities. And

who the hell are we, all wise humans to simply state an impossibility in any form whatsoever!

Atheism is simply the absence of belief that any deities exist. You can't then say that is a belief system. There is no dogma, no rules to it, no more than there is to not believing Thor or Zeus or Bastet or Bhaal exists.

 

[orangeban]

But there are different types of atheism, you get agnostic atheism and gnostic atheism. How are we meant to distinguish those two types without using the word atheist?

You can't be a something Atheist or an Atheist something. That's a misnomer. Atheists don't believe anything. Period. Done. Full stop. If you are an Atheists who believes there might be a god or a higher power, you aren't an Atheist.

That's like calling yourself a carnivorousness vegan; you either are or you aren't.

Not true, like I said, you get gnostic and agnostic atheism.

Gnostic atheism is where you know there isn't a God.

Agnostic atheism is where you don't know if there's a God or not, but you choose not to worship any.

I'm an agnostic atheist since I don't know if there's a God or not, and I don't see how some people can claim there is definetly not a God, they have no proof.

Agnostic and Atheist are somewhat contradictory words. Agnostic suffices in your case.

But you can be an agnostic theist or an agnostic atheist, so you do need that second word to fully exlain your beliefs or lack of.