Attack on Titan season 2 officially announced

[Dalisclock]

That didn't happen. The colossal titan made his second appearance, kicked in the outer wall of Trost, and let titans in. The humans not only prevented the titans from breaching the much-more-important inner wall, but they reclaimed the district and sealed the breach the colossal titan made.


From a casualty perspective, they lost several dozen people and took out a unique enemy titan, of which there are only three shown so far.

It sounds callous, but the humans in Attack on Titan have reserves. You can afford to lose a hundred guys taking down one titan shifter when there are only three or four of them in the entire world (and one's on your side.)

So far the humans have held the line but that seems like it's about it. The outer Ring is still controlled by the Titans and god knows how many more special ones there are.

As for reserves, the Humans lost a lot of people when the outer ring fell, and a lot of area to grow food in(which is why they mounted a suicidal assault to get rid of the extra mouths). Also, don't forget that it literally takes a year to train a new soldier to fight the Titans, which doesn't exactly help the situation when they lose 100 guys per battle.

It's hard to shake the feeling that the humans are pretty much just delaying the inevitable defeat, unless by some miracle in season 2 they reach the basement with the secret in it. Wars require resources and able-bodied troops, which the humans don't seem to have much of and the titans don't need. In a war of Attrition, the Titans win.

 

[FPLOON]

Spoiler: My face right now...

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Other than that, how far are they going to adapt... and will it include that one flashback and/or that one particular death?

 

[Fractral]

Oh, they're finally making it? About damn time. The first season was hyped to hell and back, but to my own great surprise was actually quite good. I'm looking forward to this; hopefully Cabaneri will be enough to tide me over.

 

[Politrukk]

And let me guess.. The story line of season 2 will just be a bunch of humans dying who make no real success which leads to a highly predictable plot and a series which just survives on gratuitous violence.

Seriously, Attack on Titan season 1 was pretty shit. The humans literally never won anything. The only drawing point was "omigod look how violent it is. it's so mature!!!"

They could have made the plot a bit more unpredictable by throwing a victory or two in there for the humans, but instead, you could just watch it knowing that humans will always lose in the show.

I'm not going to spoil anything here apart from saying it becomes worse, much worse.

Currently the manga is in a place where there's almost nothing left to work with, heck I wouldn't be surprised if they just ended it right now.

Spoiler

I mean ffs there's like only 7 people left of the original cast and even one of the three protagonists is dead.
And when I say original cast I mean cast, supporting characters, some one-offs that came back just to die...

 

[balladbird]

People talking about the three year gap like it's a big deal. XD Try being a fan of Hajime no Ippo. Waiting almost a decade at a time for a season's worth of new episodes, even though the manga has 1200 chapters and growing to work with.

But yes, I'm excited. The most recent chapters came dangerously close to pushing me into darkness induced apathy, but the ride is fun, and for all its faults, it's one of the most distinct manga series in its genre right now, and it's refreshingly devoid of moe and other tropes that anime has been beating into the ground in recent years.

Spoiler: My face right now...

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Other than that, how far are they going to adapt... and will it include that one flashback and/or that one particular death?

If they have the same number of episodes to work with that they had the first time, they can comfortably make it from where the first season left off to the end of what I call the "Game of thrones" arc.

 

[ryan_cs]

And let me guess.. The story line of season 2 will just be a bunch of humans dying who make no real success which leads to a highly predictable plot and a series which just survives on gratuitous violence.

Seriously, Attack on Titan season 1 was pretty shit. The humans literally never won anything. The only drawing point was "omigod look how violent it is. it's so mature!!!"

They could have made the plot a bit more unpredictable by throwing a victory or two in there for the humans, but instead, you could just watch it knowing that humans will always lose in the show.

I'm not going to spoil anything here apart from saying it becomes worse, much worse.

Currently the manga is in a place where there's almost nothing left to work with, heck I wouldn't be surprised if they just ended it right now.

Spoiler

I mean ffs there's like only 7 people left of the original cast and even one of the three protagonists is dead.
And when I say original cast I mean cast, supporting characters, some one-offs that came back just to die...

Personally, I thought the writer had writen himself into a wall several times, but eventually, somehow it kind of works out. So I'm basically just waiting to fing out how it works out this time.
I'm aware that it might all be downhill from here. I'm just waiting and seeing

And let me guess.. The story line of season 2 will just be a bunch of humans dying who make no real success which leads to a highly predictable plot and a series which just survives on gratuitous violence.

Seriously, Attack on Titan season 1 was pretty shit. The humans literally never won anything. The only drawing point was "omigod look how violent it is. it's so mature!!!"

They could have made the plot a bit more unpredictable by throwing a victory or two in there for the humans, but instead, you could just watch it knowing that humans will always lose in the show.

I found the first few episodes pretty compelling, but by midseason it was clear that this was going nowhere. The decision to remove the tension of a nearly hopeless battle against unknowable giants, into a "Oh we have our own Kaiju!" was just so typically lazy.

It's a lot usefull than you think when the enemy has a lot more kaiju, and information, and resources, and your own kaiju is less usefull than you think.
Seriously, he's suprisingly useless a lot of the time.

 

[JamesStone]

And let me guess.. The story line of season 2 will just be a bunch of humans dying who make no real success which leads to a highly predictable plot and a series which just survives on gratuitous violence.

Seriously, Attack on Titan season 1 was pretty shit. The humans literally never won anything. The only drawing point was "omigod look how violent it is. it's so mature!!!"

They could have made the plot a bit more unpredictable by throwing a victory or two in there for the humans, but instead, you could just watch it knowing that humans will always lose in the show.

As a reader of the manga, let me tell you that you could not be more wrong if you purposely tried.


If you manage to predict the storyline then I'll take my hat off to you... then proceed to shank you for spoiling it for me.

 

[Odbarc]

I'm interested in the story of Attack on Titan because there wasn't much explained and a lot of people died like you'd see in GoT.

I'm hoping for a new season of Hajime no Ippo.

 

[Politrukk]

And let me guess.. The story line of season 2 will just be a bunch of humans dying who make no real success which leads to a highly predictable plot and a series which just survives on gratuitous violence.

Seriously, Attack on Titan season 1 was pretty shit. The humans literally never won anything. The only drawing point was "omigod look how violent it is. it's so mature!!!"

They could have made the plot a bit more unpredictable by throwing a victory or two in there for the humans, but instead, you could just watch it knowing that humans will always lose in the show.

I'm not going to spoil anything here apart from saying it becomes worse, much worse.

Currently the manga is in a place where there's almost nothing left to work with, heck I wouldn't be surprised if they just ended it right now.

Spoiler

I mean ffs there's like only 7 people left of the original cast and even one of the three protagonists is dead.
And when I say original cast I mean cast, supporting characters, some one-offs that came back just to die...

Personally, I thought the writer had writen himself into a wall several times, but eventually, somehow it kind of works out. So I'm basically just waiting to fing out how it works out this time.
I'm aware that it might all be downhill from here. I'm just waiting and seeing

And let me guess.. The story line of season 2 will just be a bunch of humans dying who make no real success which leads to a highly predictable plot and a series which just survives on gratuitous violence.

Seriously, Attack on Titan season 1 was pretty shit. The humans literally never won anything. The only drawing point was "omigod look how violent it is. it's so mature!!!"

They could have made the plot a bit more unpredictable by throwing a victory or two in there for the humans, but instead, you could just watch it knowing that humans will always lose in the show.

I'm not going to spoil anything here apart from saying it becomes worse, much worse.

Currently the manga is in a place where there's almost nothing left to work with, heck I wouldn't be surprised if they just ended it right now.

Spoiler

I mean ffs there's like only 7 people left of the original cast and even one of the three protagonists is dead.
And when I say original cast I mean cast, supporting characters, some one-offs that came back just to die...

Personally, I thought the writer had writen himself into a wall several times, but eventually, somehow it kind of works out. So I'm basically just waiting to fing out how it works out this time.
I'm aware that it might all be downhill from here. I'm just waiting and seeing

Yeah the point is even the people I know who like grimdark have abandoned this now (those who were keeping up with the manga) there's a limit to pointlessness and mucking up story progression.

I mean currently even if it were just the incredibly thin cast the manga has left for the story it would be pretty hopeless but then the plot is currently in a place where it can only get worse...

Okay sorry if I'm spoiling a bit but I just recommend people do not get their hopes up and in fact wait till the writer either has fixed his plotholes or has stopped writing alltogether, no need to set people up for dissapointment if you can prevent it right?

 

[CaptainMarvelous]

Honestly, biggest problem with Attack on Titan is the connecting tissue. There's a few cool bits to it but how you get there and talk about it is done so badly it's hard to care about.

 

[happyninja42]

I like the show for the most part, for certain elements of how it's presented. However I do find the emphasis on the secrets to be a bit problematic. What I mean is this:

From the very start, they talk about, and establish the Big Secret in the protagonist's basement, and they even talk about going there to discover it....and then they don't....for the entire season. He even conveniently forgets about it until he is reminded of it....and then forgets again.

It just seems like so much of the plot hinges on the secrets they hinted at, that the rest of the story is just filler while we wait for them to get around to actually moving the plot forward.

 

[Souplex]

Attack on Titan figured out the solution to Shonen cast inflation: Kill half of the new characters and half of the old every time you introduce a new set. Imagine if Detergent did that: Half the superfluous lieutenants would be gone, and they wouldn't waste unreasonable amounts of time focusing on them.

Also as a dub-stepper I have to ask the mango readers and sub-humans: Is Erin supposed to come off as a complete psycho?
I don't know if it's the lines in the translation, or the actor's reading of the lines, but he genuinely seems like if he didn't have titans to kill he'd probably be deriving sexual pleasure from killing people.

 

[JamesStone]

Attack on Titan figured out the solution to Shonen cast inflation: Kill half of the new characters and half of the old every time you introduce a new set. Imagine if Detergent did that: Half the superfluous lieutenants would be gone, and they wouldn't waste unreasonable amounts of time focusing on them.

Also as a dub-stepper I have to ask the mango readers and sub-humans: Is Erin supposed to come off as a complete psycho?
I don't know if it's the lines in the translation, or the actor's reading of the lines, but he genuinely seems like if he didn't have titans to kill he'd probably be deriving sexual pleasure from killing people.

Yup, pretty much. He's more or less the "realistic" version of the Shonen typical hero: acting on determination and will alone will only waste precious resources and get you or your comrades killed if you've got nothing else but that, and the type of shit he experienced and the education he received will make that determination come from genuine mental issues rather than some sort of mystical "spirit of defiance" or whatever some of the more classical mangas/animes go with. In fact, the pre-breach chapter where he's shown to save Mikasa illustrates his mild psychopathy much better in the manga, because we get to see his thoughts. He considers the men he killed to save Mikasa to be animals that looked like humans, because they did bad things against other humans. Essentially, he has a very easy time making something "the other" as long as they're evil, or at least Eren considers them evil.

In fact, one of the parts I feel the dub did much better than the sub, which I hear is a controversial opinion, it's the Titan roar. In the sub, it just sounds like a ?roid rage bodylifter showing off, while the english version makes it sound primal and monstrous, like a demon or a feral beast. It also solidifies much better the why so many are afraid of him: for the majority, he's less like a protector of humanity and more of a psychopathic monster that happens to hate the enemy much more than he hates you.

 

[Joccaren]

Yeah, can't say I'm all that excited. The show seemed to have its one gimmick - people die - and that was it. Interest in the story? Eh... Not much. A few months after the last season finished I looked up to see if the story had progressed anywhere in the Manga, and despite a couple of minor pieces of meh information... Nothing. Oh, right, essentially the same thing that had happened so far happened again a couple more times. The show had potential, but... Meh.

The show needs to move a lot faster with the information flow for it to remain engaging, and stop repeating essentially the same filler over and over in between. Its something that, honestly, for the first part of the season, Akame Ga Kill did fairly right. People died, including main characters, but that was used mostly to set up the fact that that's the sort of world this was, and the deaths tended to be more spread out, given appropriate weight and reasons behind them, and the plot started to build reasonably quickly, with core concepts getting out there pretty early, a clear main villain beyond just "The governmentz" [Or for AoT "Titans"], a description of where these magical powers came from, and just how special they were, and a little bit of how they worked, in the first half of the season. Second half things went downhill, as it stopped following the manga and, much like AoT seems to, started to instead just revel in the whole "Lol people can diezez" gimmick, which does not make a good show. Been meaning to look at the manga of that at some point, but eh, too much to do.

Either way, doesn't especially appeal to me. A gimmick is a gimmick with nothing to back it up, and I'm glad this particular gimmick only seems to have been used by a handful of media. It can be a great tool used properly, but reading this thread... They've gone even more over the top with it than they should have, to the extent that they're running out of characters to actually continue the story with. That's pure, unadulterated gimmick. Use it as a tool to reinforce the point of the narrative, not as the point of the narrative in and of itself.

 

[Fox12]

I'm not sure why I'd watch this when Berserk is a thing.

The first season was okay, but there's no doubt that it's going to go the way of Bleach in the end.

 

[Politrukk]

I'm interested in the story of Attack on Titan because there wasn't much explained and a lot of people died like you'd see in GoT.

I'm hoping for a new season of Hajime no Ippo.

I like the show for the most part, for certain elements of how it's presented. However I do find the emphasis on the secrets to be a bit problematic. What I mean is this:

From the very start, they talk about, and establish the Big Secret in the protagonist's basement, and they even talk about going there to discover it....and then they don't....for the entire season. He even conveniently forgets about it until he is reminded of it....and then forgets again.

It just seems like so much of the plot hinges on the secrets they hinted at, that the rest of the story is just filler while we wait for them to get around to actually moving the plot forward.

If this is your gripe wait for season 3 to come out.

The writer basically put in a filler arc just because he doesn't know what to do with the story, more people die, the story doesn't progress and at his writing pace he'll be getting to series 3 in like 4 years.

To further illustrate this point: the writer has taken 3 years to write 40 chapters for the manga, the anime had already caught up with the manga by the time it was done releasing.

Seeing as I got suspended last time when I said I pitied people who still are excited for this show I feel a bigger better full explanation (without spoilers) is in order.

So by the gods, I do apologize if I've offended anyone, done with this site and their moderation situation now but felt I should elaborate on my point of view seeing as this is where I apparently "offended" people.

 

[Politrukk]

I'm not sure why I'd watch this when Berserk is a thing.

The first season was okay, but there's no doubt that it's going to go the way of Bleach in the end.

It's far too nihilistic to go the way of Bleach.

The writer is currently at a point where he's killed off so many characters he's going through ass-pulls up the wazoo to try and keep some alive and even then we're faced with russian-roulette style situations.