Attacks Cause Sony to Rebuild PSN Infrastructure

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endnuen

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Mr.K. said:
endnuen said:
That it is hardly enough content to warrant steam on the console.
Orcus The Ultimate said:
i agree, but it's better than nothing...
You guys do know Steam is not about Valve games, just a general purpose store/service.

Sony did time this well, these server overhauls haveto be made every once in a while and people get pissed at you for every second you go offline, now they got hackers to take the hate and Sony became the martyr in peoples eyes.
But they are actually just doing a regular update, while avoiding hate and gaining support, that is evil genius.
Yes, but Sony has a service for that already. Called PlayStation Store.
It just lacks the connectivity that Steam provides, along with games from valve.
 

El_Chubba_Chubba

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You know what, wouldn't you love to hack the hackers and shit on them big time! If only I had any sort of skill set good enough D:
 

Atmos Duality

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Trusting a bunch of black hats, and taking them at their word?
Then they go on to do exactly what they said they wouldn't do?

WHO COULD HAVE SEEN THIS COMING??

...Well, to be fair, it could be a part of Anonymous that didn't want to play nice irregardless of what they promised before publicly.
I imagine Sony has located the avenue of attack and is fixing it; suggesting that such a vulnerability had a limited lifespan.
 

klaynexas3

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sony never pointed it's finger at anonymous to begin with, anonymous said they didn't do it first. sounds like some people know something that we don't, mind sharing this anonymous? i'm usually all for anonymous, i love those guys. but this did involve them in some way. even if they didn't do it specifically, they know who did, and i'm guessing it was a splinter group. so you know what anonymous, you can go eat a bag of dicks. actually, i was just advertising my sequal to the bag of dicks trilogy. you know, bag of dicks, return of bag of dicks, son of bag of dicks. well, i may not be the original author, but i know him, and he helped my write the sequal, you can go eat a bag of dicks. it's gonna be great, everyone go to barnes and nobles and pre-order a copy ASAP
 

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"So you know that other OS thing you paid for... Yeah we got rid of that."
"Oh also due to our fears of retribution we are killing our PSN for several weeks and are going to rebuild it. We will most certainly be sticking to our theme of removing functionalities and making the system less useable."

Just happy my Protal2 is where it belongs.
 

MrDarkling

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Anonymous "YEH LETS MESS UP SONY"
Sony "PSN is down"
Anonymous "We didn't do it"

Yes...totally makes sense.
Even if I haven't got the details exactly right it must be a very big coincidence that the time anonymous wants to take action against Sony is the very same time PSN goes down and they deny any involvement.
 

DrScoobs

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We have two possible people to blame: Sony for having weaksauce servers or the hackers for being even more skilled than the 'great' anonymous (a possible third option would be a very very pissed off anon for not having their sony protest go exactly to plan and covering it up to avoid losing face with their devoted fanbase). I demand compensation from sony for this (although i do 90% of all online gaming on steam anyway) :)
 

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Mxrz said:
Kalezian said:
Mxrz said:
Anonymous can eat a dick.
we love you too.



OT: They should of announced that PSN would be going offline due to an intrusion, instead...... four days later....... saying that they are rebuilding the entire infrastructure of their services.

Even after Sony admitted to shutting down the system, without warning to their customers, I wonder how many people will still blindly claim Anon did it like the little sheep they are.
About as many as will blindly defend "anon" like the little sheep they are.

Also, please. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ellipsis If you're going to try to use them for dramatic effect, at least learn how they work.
They shut it down BECAUSE of external attack to install a security update (Which I'm glad of because I've made transactions over PSN and don't want my info stolen). What the hell is with people, every single thing Sony does now is now some kind of moustache twirling act of evil "WHAT? SYSTEM MAINTENANCE! YOU HATE THE USERS I DEMAND RECOMPENSE!"

Or maybe I'm wrong. Maybe Anon is right and they really just do hate me and will cripple their own systems just to spite me. After all, who else but a little sheep wouldn't trust the proclamations of loosely affiliated group of admitted criminals who won't give you their names?
 

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Hey I pay good money for my playstation gold account so I can play online and..wait nevermind it's free unless I feel like paying for some extra things. Oh well they will probably give out free time to actual subscribers to apologize kinda like other companies (blizz) do when they have these problems.
 

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Mr.K. said:
endnuen said:
That it is hardly enough content to warrant steam on the console.
Orcus The Ultimate said:
i agree, but it's better than nothing...
You guys do know Steam is not about Valve games, just a general purpose store/service.

Sony did time this well, these server overhauls haveto be made every once in a while and people get pissed at you for every second you go offline, now they got hackers to take the hate and Sony became the martyr in peoples eyes.
But they are actually just doing a regular update, while avoiding hate and gaining support, that is evil genius.
yes, but they could have done it before it became a problem.
 

whiteshadow84

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Sweet, I'm down with that. I don't mind the downtime and the reparations gift will likely be good. I just hate hackers though.
 

Jumplion

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I'm getting a bit skeptical on both sides. For some reason I feel that this is being blown out of proportion, as this man points out;

AC10 said:
I thought it was clear what happened in the original news post:
Someone found a security vulnerability in PSN and/or Qriocity (as they run on the same system) so Sony shut down the whole service to prevent anyone from (further?) exploiting it.

the quote, in question
"An external intrusion on our system has affected our PlayStation Network and Qriocity services. In order to conduct a thorough investigation and to verify the smooth and secure operation of our network services going forward, we turned off PlayStation Network & Qriocity services on the evening of Wednesday, April 20th."
It merely says there was an external intrusion into the companies servers which house PSN and Qriocity, and they shut everything off to protect themselves.
Now that I think about it, Sony wouldn't just do nothing after GeoHotz released their security root key, they would of course try to update everything and secure their platform even more. That anal external intrusion thing could either be a few hackers that found an exploit or a cover up, but we'll just have to wait and see what happens...
 

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AC10 said:
I thought it was clear what happened in the original news post:
Someone found a security vulnerability in PSN and/or Qriocity (as they run on the same system) so Sony shut down the whole service to prevent anyone from (further?) exploiting it.

the quote, in question
"An external intrusion on our system has affected our PlayStation Network and Qriocity services. In order to conduct a thorough investigation and to verify the smooth and secure operation of our network services going forward, we turned off PlayStation Network & Qriocity services on the evening of Wednesday, April 20th."
It merely says there was an external intrusion into the companies servers which house PSN and Qriocity, and they shut everything off to protect themselves.
I'm pretty sure they are protecting the users as well..... Just saying.

However, on a PR note this was probably the best way this could have gone down. If they had shut it down when Anon threaten them it would make Sony look bad. By waiting for the fucking hackers to make the first move Sony can shut it down and blame the fucking hackers for the inconvenience. I think it is brilliant. Sony gets to fix the system AND turn more people against Anon. Fucking hackers!
 

Alsray

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The PSN wasn't hacked that first time, all that ANON did was a DDoS a denial of service, the Netwrok itself was not compromised, that is very much safe, but access to the servers is different, a DDoS works by pinging the server to make it over work, and it.

There is no hacking involved, just overworking of the servers. The External intrusion was probly just that, and is now a scapegoat for a chance to completely rebuild the service. They should just say that outright.
 

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Atmos Duality said:
Trusting a bunch of black hats, and taking them at their word?
Then they go on to do exactly what they said they wouldn't do?

WHO COULD HAVE SEEN THIS COMING??

...Well, to be fair, it could be a part of Anonymous that didn't want to play nice irregardless.
I imagine Sony has located the avenue of attack and is fixing it; suggesting that such a vulnerability had a limited lifespan.
You lose all credibility for the now-bold part.
 

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SadisticDarkling said:
Anonymous "YEH LETS MESS UP SONY"
Sony "PSN is down"
Anonymous "We didn't do it"

Yes...totally makes sense.
Even if I haven't got the details exactly right it must be a very big coincidence that the time anonymous wants to take action against Sony is the very same time PSN goes down and they deny any involvement.
But here's the thing: it makes no sense for Anon not to claim responsibility for something. They've targeted Sony before, in a way that hurts users. For an organization that's trying to draw attention to itself, it would get nothing by attacking, then denying the attack. No, this is Sony screwing up and using Anon to cover its tracks.

BTW, and not to add more fuel to the console wars, but if Microsoft isn't out there giving XBL Gold discounts to disgruntled PSN users, they need to get a better marketing team.
 

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BlueMage said:
Atmos Duality said:
Trusting a bunch of black hats, and taking them at their word?
Then they go on to do exactly what they said they wouldn't do?

WHO COULD HAVE SEEN THIS COMING??

...Well, to be fair, it could be a part of Anonymous that didn't want to play nice irregardless.
I imagine Sony has located the avenue of attack and is fixing it; suggesting that such a vulnerability had a limited lifespan.
You lose all credibility for the now-bold part.
Oh no! My internet credibility! Whatever shall I do?!
You really went out of your way to point this out, didn't you?