Well thats not the Australian motto really thats the Motto for ASIO or the Australian Security and Intelligence Organisation which is Australias CIA,NSA,FBI,US Marshals all rolled into the one organisation.9thRequiem said:On a separate note, is anyone else a little creeped out by "ACHIEVING A JUST AND SECURE SOCIETY"? Sounds like the motto of a totalitarian 1984/V for Vendetta type dictatorship-but-we-promise-its-for-your-own-good thing.
Come one, come all.octafish said:Porn, Fireworks and Video Games, stock up. Seriously you'd need gruesomely violent video games if you had to live in Canberra. The roundabouts, dear God the roundabouts.
In Australia, at least in regards to X-rated material (i.e. Porn), it is illegal to sell it anywhere but Canberra, but not illegal to actually possess it. So, if I were so inclined, I could make the trip to Canberra, buy my smut, and take it back to Melbourne without any legal worries. I'm assuming the same would work for video games, and is consistent with other laws of this nature. (if we were talking fireworks, that would be another story...)Therumancer said:Interestingly I wonder how this will affect previous games that Australia didn't get. I wonder if there will be a rush to bring them into Australia. Not to mention how it will influance releases and what impact the Australian market plays, do they go by Canberra, or the rest of the country?
Being in the US I also wonder about regional laws. If you look at the case of Geohot you'll notice that the guy got nailed for possessing marijuana but had a liscense for it from another state which didn't help. If someone in Australia decides to head to Canberra and buy a game that isn't approved in another part of the country, can they be arrested there for making the purchuse, or for possession of the game?
I sure as fuck am. As an Australian, I find that slogan fucking terrifying.9thRequiem said:On a separate note, is anyone else a little creeped out by "ACHIEVING A JUST AND SECURE SOCIETY"? Sounds like the motto of a totalitarian 1984/V for Vendetta type dictatorship-but-we-promise-its-for-your-own-good thing.
They like to promote that image, but ASIO is not our equivalent of the CIA, it is only the FBI/Marshalls equivalent.risenbone said:Well thats not the Australian motto really thats the Motto for ASIO or the Australian Security and Intelligence Organisation which is Australias CIA,NSA,FBI,US Marshals all rolled into the one organisation.
Considering 99% of games were released in Australia unaltered it wasnt exactly stopping our freedom of speech, most "R-18+" games were just rated MA15+. It's really not going to change much except the occasional game that will now be able to get in as R-18+.Fappy said:Its so sad that it took them this long. Say what you will about the US but at least our freedom of speech/expression isn't hung up in red tape.
Don't be so silly.Valanthe said:Yay, welcome to the 21st Century Australia, here's your complimentary cupcake and party hat.
We've been here all along, just needed a few bookeeping changes to categorise games betterThe Artificially Prolonged said:At last! Welcome to the civilized world Australia![]()
Generally if you have say, a firecracker in Sydney where it's illegal that you bought in Canberra, you will still be charged for possession of an illegal item. As for video games, they'll be released federally at once, I'm guessing Canberra is doing it first to set an example of how it'd work, making it easily to enforce it on other states. As already stated in the news it'll be for the whole of Australia at the start of 2013, so even if your court with on in Sydney I doubt the police will care, as possession of said game is not illegal, only the SALE of it. I can get mortal combat if I wanted it, just not legal to sell it here.Therumancer said:Interestingly I wonder how this will affect previous games that Australia didn't get. I wonder if there will be a rush to bring them into Australia. Not to mention how it will influance releases and what impact the Australian market plays, do they go by Canberra, or the rest of the country?
Being in the US I also wonder about regional laws. If you look at the case of Geohot you'll notice that the guy got nailed for possessing marijuana but had a liscense for it from another state which didn't help. If someone in Australia decides to head to Canberra and buy a game that isn't approved in another part of the country, can they be arrested there for making the purchuse, or for possession of the game?
I don't know, when I hear about one city doing this, capital or not, I have thoughts of regional law enforcement deciding to put game stores under pseudo-suerveillance so they can shake down game purchusers who live in their area or travel through their territory. Similar to how police have unofficial quotas of tickets they are supposed to hand out when they town needs money so they harass motorists, or even give tickets arbitrarly.
You know... cop knocks on the door and serves a fine for possessing a game illegal in the current area, which he knows about because he was "informed" of it's purchuse someplace where it was legal and being brought to that residence.
It sounds crazy, but with a hot button issue like this, and all the crazies involved, a slow transition like this seems like it's going to create a lot of problems.