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i3ishop

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alright so one of the things i really enjoy when i get the chance is to dress like a pirate and hang out at pirate events and SCA events I just want to know if there are other like minded sea dogs out there what crew are you with if you are in one or whatever just thought that given the nature of the escapist i might find some like minded pirates out there
 

epictechgeek

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I am trying to get there. I always go to Ren faires and the like as a pirate, a does my family and friends, AKA, My crew. We also shoot muyzzle loading black powder cap and ball pistols in our spare time and think about true pirates. BTW, there is no "pirates language" for those that don't know. A pirate spoke in whatever dialect and slang he learned as a child, of course, learning and picking up new slang from fellow seadogs. :) If anyone has any good SCA Pirate rescources, I'm wanting to make my persona a Pirate, however I lack guidance in how the SCA views it and what sort of things are appropriate for it. In essence, I don't want to be thrown out of meetings. Just, ALMOST thrown out of mertings.:p
 

Seldon2639

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First, it's facsimile, second:

playing a pirate in the SCA (if you're taking it at all seriously) is decidedly difficult. The archetypal pirate is usually of the Jack Sparrow type, the timeframe of which is post 16th century, most of the really famous ones lived in the 17th century (the hard-stop date for the SCA is 1600 C.E, so the end of the 16th century). The issue is that the SCA runs basically from the fall of the Roman Empire (Emperor Justinian) to the Italian Renaissance. Especially if you're wanting to play a pistol-wielding pirate, you're not going to find a receptive audience in the SCA. They won't kick you out, but you'll just be showing up to show up, you won't be playing the game.

If you want to play a Maniot (Greek pirates during the Byzantine Era), or something similar, that would probably be fine, but the swaggering, "avast ye scurvy sea dogs" stuff doesn't fly so well in the SCA. You can talk to some people in the SCA, but guns are out of period, and a persona based on a pirate is hard to do even if it is allowed since you're supposed to be playing a landed nobleman. So, I'd stick to pirating where people don't give a crap about historical accuracy: Renaissance Faires.
 

Blow_Pop

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i do ren faire, but i really wanna join sca. also wanna finish learning sword fighting....
and yes i do dress up for faire, but i go as a common wench goes with my character more ;)
 

Seldon2639

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Zeeky_Santos said:
i3ishop said:
alright so one of the things i really enjoy when i get the chance is to dress like a pirate and hang out at pirate events and SCA events I just want to know if there are other like minded sea dogs out there what crew are you with if you are in one or whatever just thought that given the nature of the escapist i might find some like minded pirates out there
I do enjoy dressing p like a pirate. but what is "SCA"?
The Society for Creative Anachronisms, it's a medieval recreation society, running the gamut of societies from about 500 C.E to about 1600 C.E. Everyone is a landed noble (lord or lady at least), and they do things like make period garb, period jewelry, period drinks, and most done in period or close-to-period ways. They also dress up in armor and have fighting competitions. You can do heavy fighting (sticks of rattan, and solid armor/helmets) or fencing (combat fencing). You can also engage in artistry from in period, including science of the time.

They're great people, but as I said above, playing a pirate is difficult because of the time period constraints, as well as the constraints on persona. Playing Jack Sparrow or a wench isn't usually appropriate, since neither would have been a noble.
 

garfoldsomeoneelse

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You mean, uh, facsimile? I recommend you download FireFox, has a built-in spellcheck, great for forum posting.

(Ironically, it doesn't recognize the word FireFox.)
 

epictechgeek

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Well I've heard SCA was up to the 17th century, but i'll digress. Also, pistols are not out of period. In the early 1500's, the first pistol was invented in Pistoia, Italy. The inventors name was Camillo Vitelli.
 

i3ishop

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Seldon2639 said:
Zeeky_Santos said:
i3ishop said:
alright so one of the things i really enjoy when i get the chance is to dress like a pirate and hang out at pirate events and SCA events I just want to know if there are other like minded sea dogs out there what crew are you with if you are in one or whatever just thought that given the nature of the escapist i might find some like minded pirates out there
I do enjoy dressing p like a pirate. but what is "SCA"?
The Society for Creative Anachronisms, it's a medieval recreation society, running the gamut of societies from about 500 C.E to about 1600 C.E. Everyone is a landed noble (lord or lady at least), and they do things like make period garb, period jewelry, period drinks, and most done in period or close-to-period ways. They also dress up in armor and have fighting competitions. You can do heavy fighting (sticks of rattan, and solid armor/helmets) or fencing (combat fencing). You can also engage in artistry from in period, including science of the time.

They're great people, but as I said above, playing a pirate is difficult because of the time period constraints, as well as the constraints on persona. Playing Jack Sparrow or a wench isn't usually appropriate, since neither would have been a noble.
well your right and you are wrong while its true about the majority of the things you say not everyone in the SCA is a noble simply because its not always as fun as being somthing else and if you go to events that aren't directly related to the SCA like some of those we have here on the west coast things can get really wild (the SCA puts rules out and some of us dont like rules) also combat can include boffer fights (make a sword out of a piece of PVC pipe wrapped in foam and than duct tape than whack each your friends with them its a hell of a lot of fun) anyhow im not trying to nit pick you here so sorry if thats what it sounds like
 

Seldon2639

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i3ishop said:
Seldon2639 said:
Zeeky_Santos said:
i3ishop said:
alright so one of the things i really enjoy when i get the chance is to dress like a pirate and hang out at pirate events and SCA events I just want to know if there are other like minded sea dogs out there what crew are you with if you are in one or whatever just thought that given the nature of the escapist i might find some like minded pirates out there
I do enjoy dressing p like a pirate. but what is "SCA"?
The Society for Creative Anachronisms, it's a medieval recreation society, running the gamut of societies from about 500 C.E to about 1600 C.E. Everyone is a landed noble (lord or lady at least), and they do things like make period garb, period jewelry, period drinks, and most done in period or close-to-period ways. They also dress up in armor and have fighting competitions. You can do heavy fighting (sticks of rattan, and solid armor/helmets) or fencing (combat fencing). You can also engage in artistry from in period, including science of the time.

They're great people, but as I said above, playing a pirate is difficult because of the time period constraints, as well as the constraints on persona. Playing Jack Sparrow or a wench isn't usually appropriate, since neither would have been a noble.
well your right and you are wrong while its true about the majority of the things you say not everyone in the SCA is a noble simply because its not always as fun as being somthing else and if you go to events that aren't directly related to the SCA like some of those we have here on the west coast things can get really wild (the SCA puts rules out and some of us dont like rules) also combat can include boffer fights (make a sword out of a piece of PVC pipe wrapped in foam and than duct tape than whack each your friends with them its a hell of a lot of fun) anyhow im not trying to nit pick you here so sorry if thats what it sounds like
No one plays their persona all the time, but everyone is a noble, strictly speaking. They don't always play their personae outside of events, but in the SCA itself, they are noblemen and women. That said, being a noble doesn't mean never getting wild. My point was that if you're looking for some serious historical accuracy, SCA is the way to go. If you're looking to dress like Johnny Depp, and slur, the SCA might not be the best fit.

The boffer thing is right, but I meant the official combat. Boffer fights are for fun, heavy fighting is for honor (and fun, of course). The confustion seems to be the difference between "The SCA" as an organization with rules and structure, and "The SCA" as a group of people who get together, dress up, and play pretend. The latter is what makes it fun, the former is what gives it order.
 

Asolfr

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While it seems you have all the good intentions, i must ask are you a member of the sca or do you play with us?

As an officer in my barony and licensed fighter in my kingdom, i feel its nessessary to say that all are welcome, yes it is difficult for the fringies on the outskirts to get into the core of what the sca is since many of them find it daunting to move into such a ordered and cerimonial group.
Yes, there are those who will rudly show dishonor by looking down on those new ones instead of helping them. but most of us remember what it was like to start out, it takes time and a lot of effort to really get into the sca, but many newcomers start as generic vikings (easy stuff) or Pirates, yes the argh matey and slurring kind, and that is fine with most of us (the ones who count), there's nothing wrong with being a pirate.
Yes it does fall outside the barrier of the prime sca standard but we are accepted anyway...oh did i mention i'm a pirate? i carry a .50 flintlock and saunter around the erik, i am also a viking and follow all my needs there, just depends on how i'm feeling to how i dress. there are no set rules of how to's, as long as you obey the laws (mundane and society) and keep your courtesy held high, showing those their due respect, then all should be fine, and you'll be accepted by those who matter.

I am also a merchant and those bloody pirates bring me more loot than others combined.

oh yea, just because people are "concidered" to be landed nobles does not mean they have to use it, you may be a pirate, a thief, or a beggar, i will still call you Mi'lord. its courtesy, its polite, its the Society for Creative Anachronism, the S.C.A.

Yours In Service
Lord Asolfr Mikill Vikarsson
Chatelain of the Barony of Rivenoak
Kingdom of the West
 

magnuslion

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One of the founders of the ERGH pirate fleet from An-Tir. but pirate fleets were banned in our ingdom, so we are reinventing ourselfs as a Mongol Horde.