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Mozared

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The movie looked incredibly, and by incredibly I mean INCREDIBLY, generic. Same old story about humans finding resources, local population wants humans to gtfo, humans infiltrate/get captured by local population, sympathize with them and eventually help them stopping/destroying/making peace with the humans. I've seen it so many times before it's not even fun - except that this time it's got even better special effects and the local population are a new race of aliens.

So no, it'll be yet another standard Hollywood film and while it might be entertaining, I doubt it'll be a 'masterpiece'. Not storywise, anyway - maybe effectswise.
 

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miracleofsound said:
Or are you feeling a bit cynical and thinking it's gonna be Fern Gully meets Pocahontas in space?
More like Atlantis: The Lost Empire, only above-ground and with superior technology. That's how I view it.
 

MiracleOfSound

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LiquidGrape said:
His films are in general loud, obnoxious, sentimental, and crude.
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...and you say this like it's bad?

What's wrong with being loud, obnoxious, sentimental and crude?

Art does not have to be deep or subtle to be enjoyable.
 

Vrex360

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I'm excited mostly because this is James Cameron and with the exception of Titanic and Piranha part 2: the Spawning he's proved a competant director. Besides the CGI and scenery look beautiful.
Honestly I'm hopeful.
 

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miracleofsound said:
Just got my tickets for the preview showing tomorrow night and am feeling rather excited.

Are the Escapists feeling the hype? Do you think it will be up there with T2 and Aliens?

Or are you feeling a bit cynical and thinking it's gonna be Fern Gully meets Pocahontas in space?
Well, Lucas style CGI combined with director everyone will be afraid to warn if the project begins to look awful, plus a culture swap love story ... no. Its going to be a mess.
 

Christemo

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not really, actually. i think the budget is too much. District 9 is one of my favorite movies ever, and it was made on only 25 million.

i think this is way overhyped, but i havent seen it yet, so i cant really tell.
 

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miracleofsound said:
Or are you feeling a bit cynical and thinking it's gonna be Fern Gully meets Pocahontas in space?
Now maybe this is because I was young (and music-crazy, curse you disney!) enough to be hypnotized by those movies when they came out but that sounds friggin brilliant! If that were an accurate synopsis I would go see the movie, no question. Only I'm imagining the hot fairy girl whose name I've since completely forgotten with a laser gun. Or, alternately, some sort of space mech battle a la gundam wing/seed/whatever.
 

Discord

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Well it sure does make alot of people talk about it so yeah I'll go see it maybe with some friends if asked. But the problem I have now is that I read too much into what other people thought, reviews and of course that damn south park episode (funny as it was). But like someone said a few pages back I'll take the yahtzee standpoint and assume it's shit until proven otherwise.

Curious yes, psyched no not really.

But something tell's me the story will seem familar; but I'll enjoy it.
 

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Eh, it looks good, but most of my hype was stolen when I found out the Avatar: The Last Airbender movie was actually next summer. I'm looking forward to that one a heck of a lot more.
 

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I was sceptical, but then i thought: It's James Cameron, so it's gonna have at least SOMETHING i will like.

And as for the "Dances with Wolves" Plot...well, yeah, he plays it safe i guess. I am pretty sure Jim wasn't really interested in telling a story but to bring this fictional planet he invented, Pandora, to life. But since a documentary about a fictional planet makes no sense, he puts it all into a plot that generally works with the public (see "The Last Samurai" for reference) and is..."safe".

And as for me, i'll just hope to get top-notch, epic eye-candy action without having to put up with the utter stupidity that were included in "Transformers 2" or "GI Joe". That would satisfy me.

It's not like i can't watch a film with a actually good story afterwards...
 

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I'm going to go and see it in 3D on Saturday! I actually can't wait, I can't see this as being a BAD film but if I'm wrong I'll admit it after I've passed judgement =P
 

JWAN

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Im not, it looks terrible.
let me clarify:
Alien Smurfs
check
predictable storyline
check
shit (yes SHIT) visuals
check
trying to sell it with 3D
check
Original characters
not check
 

SturmDolch

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So the one with blue guys isn't based off an Anime? Well, it just got 10 points to my Willing-To-See meter. Which is now at 10/100.

Seriously, I thought it looked like an average action movie with the mechs and then they drag in the terrible CGI blue aliens. The only reason I'd see it is so that I have something to blawg about, but even then, that's a waste of a perfectly good movie ticket. It just looks terrible... I have no other way of saying it.
 

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miracleofsound said:
...and you say this like it's bad?

What's wrong with being loud, obnoxious, sentimental and crude?

Art does not have to be deep or subtle to be enjoyable.
Sentimentality is never something to aspire to.
Take Schindler's List; a fairly decent film up until the point where Spielberg abandons the period setting in favour of the schmaltzy money shot at Oskar's grave.
Note that I do in no way mean to discredit the man and his efforts. Nor do I wish to say that the people he helped saving are wrong in their silent praise.
What I hope to convey is the sense that Spielberg had all the material he needed in the historical account, and that the scene in question actually harms the impact of the film as a whole.
The story speaks for itself.

Cameron have always fallen into the same trap; whether it is the rather forced family unit in Aliens, the prolonged finale of Terminator 2 or the...well, Titanic in its entirety.
Though I suppose he must include these factors, as otherwise his films are little more than extravagant technological displays with little time for character.

As for the definition of art, the artistry of Cameron stops at a purely visual level.
Competent, but uninspired.
And call me picky, but more often than not I want some meat with them bones when I watch a film.
 

CNKFan

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I may see it next week. Mostly because my vehicle is in the shop and the only other car I can drive is my sisters.
 

WestMountain

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I dunno,it feels like hes going to kill his fellow marines when he have turned to the blue side and thats lame if it would happen
 

MiracleOfSound

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LiquidGrape said:
miracleofsound said:
...and you say this like it's bad?

What's wrong with being loud, obnoxious, sentimental and crude?

Art does not have to be deep or subtle to be enjoyable.
Sentimentality is never something to aspire to.
Take Schindler's List; a fairly decent film up until the point where Spielberg abandons the period setting in favour of the schmaltzy money shot at Oskar's grave.
Note that I do in no way mean to discredit the man and his efforts. Nor do I wish to say that the people he helped saving are wrong in their silent praise.
What I hope to convey is the sense that Spielberg had all the material he needed in the historical account, and that the scene in question actually harms the impact of the film as a whole.
The story speaks for itself.

Cameron have always fallen into the same trap; whether it is the rather forced family unit in Aliens, the prolonged finale of Terminator 2 or the...well, Titanic in its entirety.
Though I suppose he must include these factors, as otherwise his films are little more than extravagant technological displays with little time for character.

As for the definition of art, the artistry of Cameron stops at a purely visual level.
Competent, but uninspired.
And call me picky, but more often than not I want some meat with them bones when I watch a film.
We definately have different taste, I cry like a big pussy at the end of T2 every time. Love that movie so much, including all the sentimental parts.

Aliens is one of my favorites too, it's just non stop OTT action from start to finish and I love Ripley's relationship with Newt. Plus giant penis headed murderous beasts tearing apart dumb spess mehrens... what's not to love?

Titanic... you're missing the whole point of the movie... screw the sentimentality and visuals... it's got Kate Winslet in the nip! Yum. She was one perfectly endowed young lady.