Baby Dolphin killed as tourists yank it out of the ocean to take a selfie

[Casual Shinji]

And here I thought dolphins only existed to be cuddled by us.

Just a small point, but dolphins will rape porpoises to death and then play with the corpses. They're more like us than you think.

Every single animal ever is like us, and all animals do a lot of downright CRUEL stuff. Because.... guess what... we're animals too, so it's not them being like us, but it's us being like them.

However.... there is one HUGE difference. Perhaps the one thing I can agree with the Bible about. We humans know the difference between good and evil. Animals don't.
Which is why a cat that plays with a mouse and slowly kills it isn't doing anything evil. But a teenager who takes photos with a baby porpoise and slowly kills it is definitely, undoubtedly evil.

Yeah, but some animals are given the label of 'pure' and 'good', when in reality they do some pretty vile shit. Dolphins are always depicted as happy-go-lucky creatures without a cruel bone in their body, yet they do a lot more disturbing things then, say, the Great White Shark.

 

[maninahat]

Wonder how many of the 500 people bound to post angry comments in this thread give a fuck about dolphin safe fishing methods when they buy their tuna.

Or indeed, care about the tuna.

I'm worried about the lack of context - how exactly does a baby dolphin end up washed on the shore on its own? The only footage I saw, the dolphin appeared to be already dead.

 

[default]

Gonna be honest, it makes me extremely upset how detached, ignorant and stupid people are around nature and animals. I'm gonna swear a lot and be very emotional in this post, so forgive me.

Fuck everyone involved with this, and especially fuck the guy that pulled it out of the ocean in the first place.

There are so many idiots in this thread as well talking about how we torture and kill animals every day for food and that this is no different. It is ENTIRELY different and a fucking ridiculous comparison. They sure as hell weren't going to eat this creature, and dolphins are illegal to take anyway. The morals of buying supermarket meat and mass produced animal products is definitely hazy, but not everyone can hunt their own meat and produce their own leather to ensure it's clean and ethical.

Wonder how many of the 500 people bound to post angry comments in this thread give a fuck about dolphin safe fishing methods when they buy their tuna.

Comparing grey-area unethical fishing operations to a bunch of fuckwits plucking a little animal out of the ocean and parading it around for photographs is also a stupid comparison. I eat steak from the grocery store, but if I get upset at a story about a bunch of teenagers torturing and burning a cow to death I have no ground to stand on? Stupid.

One day the universe will undergo heat death and all of this will have been meaningless.

I hereby award myself a trophy for Most Nihilistic Post in this thread. Get on my level, you bleeding-heart hippies. Ladies, form an orderly line, I am but one man.

Lol, nihilism is about understanding that nothing 'means' anything but that does not excuse wilfully causing pain and waste and fucking over other beings. Your post is a teenager's interpretation of nihilism. If anything it means those things are MORE important to care about. Have some empathy for other living creatures because this is the one little bit of conscious existence we all get to have.

Also, breaking news, cow killed and eaten by humans because they taste better than potatoes and mushrooms.

As a society, we eat animals, experiment on animals, and if they are lucky they are merely our slaves. Why should anyone care about a dead dolphin. If you genuinely care about animals in general or maybe just some class of animals, I don't, but very well. But don't come and ask me for sympathy when animals are killed and tortured in a slightly unusual and visible way.

Lol edgy. Causing waste and pain is disgusting. There was no reason to kill this dolphin like there is a reason to slaughter a cow or shoot a deer for food.

Yeah, I was going to ignore this thread, but since people are now arguing over comparisons to other animal suffering I feel I should give my two cents.

It's not so much that this is equivalent to what goes on in the meat industry, animal experimentation, hunting, or any other of the questionable things we do to animals, nor is as simple as "if you're opposed to this and not to that other stuff you're a hypocrite", these comparisons are being made due to the absurd disparity between reactions. Sure, the fact that this was completely unnecessary makes it worse, but how much worse?
I remember previous threads on this site discussing vegetarianism/veganism, and the general reaction seemed to be the usual you get on the internet, ie, a bunch of people talking about how moralistic and preachy vegetarians are, a bunch of lame arguments about cruelty to vegetables, and the usual declarations of how much meat the poster is about to/currently eating just to show how apathetic they are. And it's not like that's unusual for the internet in general.
If you were to tell people that the meat industry should be shut down because it's cruel to animals, you'll usually get a look as if you'd just said the Earth is flat. Yet, if a single kitten, puppy, or dolphin is harmed then it's suddenly the end of the world.

Again, it's not that the two are equivalent, it's that there is far too little difference to warrant the disparity in reactions.

Edit:
Also, despite what it might appear, I'm not actually accusing you of holding disparate opinions, just that the reason why people are comparing it to the meat industry is because this cruelty is a drop in the ocean (no pun intended) compared to all the cruelty that gets condoned because it's beneficial for us.

It's a tough issue and the meat industry can be disgusting. For my part I'm a consumer of animal products. The only reason we are here right now with the minds and bodies that we have (and have the ability and comfort to argue about this in the first place) is because for billions of years our ancestors were incredible, efficient hunters. Humans have evolved to eat meat. The world is a constant cycle of life and death. Death gives life and life gives death. From herbivores to carnivores. It's just how it is for us carbon based lifeforms. If someone does not wish to eat meat that is entirely their choice and in some ways I really admire them for it, but I just cannot understand how they think they can force that philosophy and lifestyle on others when meat has been part of our diet for longer than anyone could imagine, and even these days supplementing nutritional needs with pills and synthetic proteins is just not enough and lacks the trace elements our bodies need. One day nutritional science will advance to the point we'll be able to get everything we need from a pill and there will be no need to kill animals, but it's not quite there yet. And no I don't value human life over animal life or think animals have been put here to 'serve us'. Intelligence isn't a 'deserve to live' meter nor does it excuse cruelty to those below you.

Having said that I personally eat meat as sparingly as I can and avoid animal products where possible. I don't eat fast food and avoid unethical meat and cheap animal products. I also take every opportunity to understand and experience the process of killing and processing an animal for consumption and ideally would like to properly learn to hunt for my own food at some point in my life. For me it's about respect. If you're going to kill an animal make damn sure you're going to make good use of as many parts of it as you can and ensure its passing is quick and clean. I love animals. People gloating about their gluttony and dominance over animals is so fucking distasteful and ignorant. I'd like to see them be confronted with the prospect of dressing a rabbit and preparing it for the table, see how they feel afterwards.

I don't fuckin know. Cycles back to what I said about detachment earlier. A lot of people in society these days get their meat in lovely clean little packages and don't think about where it came from or what was sacrificed to get it. Then they'll go on hunting videos and call the people cleanly taking down a deer 'evil fuckheads'. Ridiculous.

 

[Jeivar]

I think there's far, far too much sentimentality about animals these days but yes, killing an animal for a selfie is pretty damn stupid.

 

[SweetShark]

It is ironic, isn't it?
We don't give a single f*ck about a big female fly which carry in her belly her babies when we squeezed with our thumbs, but we must feel sorry for a baby dolphin?
Lets face it, we only care cause how stupid was the way and the reason the dolphin died.
I guess we feel anger [me include] of how brainless these people are to cause the death of a baby dolphin just for a selphie.
Just because is "unique".
I guess we will care only for a fly's death when a human decided to laso a fly with homemade rope made with his hairs and THEN kill it cause he was bored or by accident.

 

[manic_depressive13]

It's amazing the mental gymnastics people will pull to justify masturbating over bacon one second, and furiously condemning people hurting animals the next. Everyone saying "I eat meat but...!" Just stop. You don't have a leg to stand on.

 

[manic_depressive13]

I eat a lot of meat, I love it.
I am also a fervid, intense defender of animal rights.

Eating animals, doesn't have anything to do with torturing animals or making animals suffer.

Okay, what have done to fervidly and intensely defend animal rights? Do you even shell out for the organic free range meats that are at least somewhat more humane?

 

[the December King]

It's amazing the mental gymnastics people will pull to justify masturbating over bacon one second, and furiously condemning people hurting animals the next. Everyone saying "I eat meat but...!" Just stop. You don't have a leg to stand on.

Not wanting an animal to suffer is the perfect reason to condemn it. That animal did not need to be tortured, and it didn't need to die, especially for entertainment purposes.

I have bought free range humanely kept meat and meat products since I was shown the difference. For what it's worth. And I have never become sexually aroused at pork products.

 

[BloatedGuppy]

It's amazing the mental gymnastics people will pull to justify masturbating over bacon one second, and furiously condemning people hurting animals the next. Everyone saying "I eat meat but...!" Just stop. You don't have a leg to stand on.

Eh, not really.

Killing and consuming life for sustenance is perfectly justifiable from a utilitarian perspective. Even extraordinarily idealistic and condemnatory vegans kill to eat. But we don't anthropomorphize plants, so we're comfortable with it.

Killing for sport or momentary amusement is a bit trickier to justify.

 

[PunkRex]

People who post 'you eat meat so you don't get to say shit, hypocrite' can fuck right off.

I find it hypocritical that these people are the exact same individuals telling folks on the internet to stop getting upset and 'welcome to reality'.

YOU GET WITH FUCKING REALITY!

Just because I don't donate money to PETA and spend my evenings studying up on what corporations are doing what shady animal related practices does not some how negate my opinion here. Cruelty is not something that should ever just be accepted, yes it's necessary sometimes, yes it's part of nature but is not something society should be okay with. I don't buy brands or eat at fast food chains that promote cruel practices, I always shell out for organic when possible, I do what I fucking can within practicality. I'm not a vegan, I don't donate to charity (on an annual basis at least) and I don't take part in terrorist activity against animal testing facilities! This doesn't mean I can't look at this situation and say FUCK THOSE PEOPLE!

Cruelty is never okay.

 

[manic_depressive13]

Not wanting an animal to suffer is the perfect reason to condemn it. That animal did not need to be tortured, and it didn't need to die, especially for entertainment purposes.

I have bought free range humanely kept meat and meat products since I was shown the difference. For what it's worth. And I have never become sexually aroused at pork products.

I was referring to people who gloat over how much they love meat and disparage vegans, while self righteously condemning random acts of cruelty which, while grotesque, have certainly resulted in less suffering than the meat habit they hate to have criticised. If you're not the kind of person to throw a tanty over how preachy vegans are, there's no problem.

It's more like not wanting an animal to suffer... but only when it's someone else's fault. When they're the ones causing the suffering, they don't want to hear it.

 

[Nico4]

What a bunch of fucking idiots

 

[Godzillarich(aka tf2godz)]

God Danmit escapist! We can't hate on some douche bags for killing a baby dolphin without it turning into some weird political debate about the food industry.

My god!

 

[The Raw Shark]

Okay seriously are people actually arguing about the difference between liking animals and eating them?
That's not the point here.
The point is that these psychotic jackasses tortured a living creature to death for the sake of fame and entertainment. THAT'S the issue.
Oh I'm sorry do you WANT to invite creepy Uncle Jack who likes to scrub his walls aggressively with live cats to the next family gathering?
The message here should just be "Don't be a vain prick". Seriously how did this devolve in to such a shitshow?

 

[SweetShark]

God Danmit escapist! We can't hate on some douche bags for killing a baby dolphin without it turning into some weird political debate about the food industry.

My god!

The Escapist want to eat Dolphins? Seems legit. I hate Dolphins. I am a Shark.
At least we didn't started a Spiderman Thread like some other sites.

 

[visiblenoise]

Ayy any mermen here want to find these people next time they go swimming and "take some selfies?" I'll bring the camera.