Backlash after Gorilla Shot in Cincinnati Zoo (Updated)
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The question is why? I think it has to do with empathy and since I'm lucky enough to lack it I'm able to make better decisions.JoJo said:
I think you're underestimating the size of the moat. It's about 15-20' across and at least that far down. Gorillas aren't making that jump.Casual Shinji said:I don't know, man. The zoo's I've been to usually has these guys behind thick glass and/or in very deep pit, to ensure situations like this don't happen. This just seems like shoddy design for a gorilla enclosure; They could just bull rush and leap all of that if they get in a crazy enough mood. It happened once over here; The infamous Bokito incident. A woman had spent the last couple of days interacting with him through the glass thinking he liked her, until one day he had enough and while in his outdoor enclosure decided to leap the entire barrier and attack her.mduncan50 said:
This is the best shot I could get of the barrier around the enclosure, but it looks to be pretty standard so my guess would be that it's like this the whole way around. So there is a fence too tall for him to climb over, but to small to climb through, then another fence/shrubbery combo that he'd have to get over somehow in order to fall into the moat. This isn't something that a three or four year old is going to be able to get over in a matter of seconds without anyone being able to stop them. My guess would be that a parent was holding him out so he could get a better look and because they are completely clueless assholes and they dropped him.
OT: They absolutely made the right call, but this is unfortunately what's going to happen when you put wild animals and humans in this close a proximity to eachother. Accidents happen everywhere, and in the case of a zoo this might mean an animal is going to grab someone.
Its unfortunate what happened, and there have been plenty of times where an animal seemed to have been needlessly killed, but this is definatly a case of fuck off people. Maybe the Gorilla was trying to protect the kid, and then they'd go on an epic adventure as the Gorilla travels across the US trying to bring the boy home...or maybe it would have killed the child, even on accident.
Oh good. I thought it was just me.Parasondox said:
For reals though...I'm not sure what should have been done. From what I read initially the gorilla was attacking the kid. Which is not good. And as has been pointed out, tranks would have just pissed it off and a gorilla is more than capable of ripping a kid in half life a phonebook.
But the video doesn't really show the gorilla dragging the kid around mercilessly, but more just dragging the kid out of the water and seemingly protecting it. So a lethal danger to the kid? Ehh...
But then again that raises the question of how to get the kid away from the gorilla, or if the gorilla decides to go apeshit and just kills the kid while trainers are trying to get it him.
Eh...I'm not sure what the correct action should have been. Well, I tell a lie. They should have just thrown a pokeball at the gorilla and sealed it away for a few minutes before releasing it. But for whatever fucking reason Elon Musk hasn't gotten around to creating pokeballs yet.
So I guess we can place the blame squarely on Elon Musk.
Human life >>>>>>>>>> gorilla life.
The end.
There's no tidy bow to tie on it, this situation just sucks and there was no way it was ever going to end without sucking. Life plods on.
The end.
There's no tidy bow to tie on it, this situation just sucks and there was no way it was ever going to end without sucking. Life plods on.
I can't believe I'm even typing this but for once PETA had a point. If there was a secondary enclosure in that pen the kid would not have been in as immediate a danger. They also had their usual blather about keeping animals (that would otherwise have been turned into a carpet in the wild) in captivity but there was actual sound advice there. This happens way more than it should usually as a result of a parent not paying adequate attention but how is it so easy for a kid to get into these enclosures? There is a wildlife park/reserve not far from where i live and it is SIMPLY NOT POSSIBLE for a human of any size to get in with the dangerous animal there without significantly tampering with the enclosures there.
Parents should be questioned and maybe charged. Any zoo that uses enclosures that just anyone can stroll into need to question their security. End of.
Parents should be questioned and maybe charged. Any zoo that uses enclosures that just anyone can stroll into need to question their security. End of.
What a waste.
I'm not infuriated, I'm dismayed.
Human life is always greater, sure, I get it. To humans, of course.
I thought gorillas were intelligent- maybe they could have tried to tempt him with some of his favorite food or something? At least get on the goddamn PA and tell the hysterical masses to shut the fuck up, or there will be bloodshed? Have someone or several someones with some knowledge of the dangerous animals on the 'potentially dangerous' circuit at all times?
Children can be unruly. It's infuriating when they don't listen. But if it's that easy for a three year old to vault into the goddamn enclosure, something is wrong.
I'm not infuriated, I'm dismayed.
Human life is always greater, sure, I get it. To humans, of course.
I thought gorillas were intelligent- maybe they could have tried to tempt him with some of his favorite food or something? At least get on the goddamn PA and tell the hysterical masses to shut the fuck up, or there will be bloodshed? Have someone or several someones with some knowledge of the dangerous animals on the 'potentially dangerous' circuit at all times?
Children can be unruly. It's infuriating when they don't listen. But if it's that easy for a three year old to vault into the goddamn enclosure, something is wrong.
It sucks that the gorilla had to die, but their is no tranquilizer that would be able to knock it out before it killed the kid, I don't get why anyone is getting angry about this, if you establish proper context, the gorilla was shot in order to prevent a child from being killed, I have several questions, including how the fuck does a kid end up in a gorilla pen, but as far as I'm concerned the zoo staff did the right thing