Bad Films...that need a good sequel (or remake!)

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Shaved Apple

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mysecondlife said:
Taken. right? RIGHT??

I have to say Transformers. First 2 was terrible (haven't seen 3rd movie) and at least 2 new movies are coming out.

Might as well just hope that it'll be good.
If you didn't like the first two you won't even want to see the third one, lol. The first one is definitely the best if you ask me. Second is meh. And for the third I think they were just like, "Hey, let's just screw the plot and add in as much fighting as possible."
 

Soxafloppin

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Have to agree with Green Lantern and Mortal Kombat (still enjoy the first one).

I'd add Spawn, Steel, Clash of the Titans, the Tekken movie.
 

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Legion said:
A decent sequel to the original Starship Troopers film would be nice. The second and third films were just appalling and lazy.
Would you settle for a remake? There are plans in the works to "reboot" the film.

From what I've been hearing it will be less like Paul Verhoevens film and more like the original Robert A. Heinlein novel from 1959.

I'm glad the production is moving more towards the original story. I've never been fond of Verhoeven's adaptation.

Granted, there are a lot of themes and socio-political concepts brought up in the novel that I, and many others, don't "agree" with. However, the original story is still far better than the one present in the film. If perhaps a tad more "thought-heavy" than it is "action-heavy".

But really, the novel's representation of the future world was far more interesting than the films. For simplicity's sake, think of it this way:

In the film, the "roughnecks" are just a bunch of marines with goofy looking, football-padding-inspired armor and big rifles. Almost no mobile armored presence of any kind.

The bugs are a collection of...well...just bugs. Nothing special about them.

In the novel, the "roughnecks" are more like Spartans from Halo. (a series that takes a LOT of inspiration from Starship Troopers) Only, more "robust". They wear powered armor suits that allow them to jump-jet around the battlefield, drop planetside from orbit, gave them heightened senses, increased strength, etc.

Also in the novel, the bugs were a highly advanced species. Complete with their own starships, advanced particle weaponry, etc. They were also part of a "collective" of alien species. (think Covenant. (again, Halo took a lot from this novel))

From the wiki:
In addition to Heinlein's political views, Starship Troopers popularized a number of military concepts and innovations, some of which have inspired real life research. The novel's most noted innovation is the powered armor exoskeletons used by the Mobile Infantry.[24] These suits were controlled by the wearer's own movements, but powerfully augmented a soldier's strength, speed, weight carrying capacity (which allowed much heavier personal armament), jumping ability (including jet and rocket boost assistance), and provided the wearer with improved senses (infrared vision and night vision, radar, and amplified hearing), a completely self-contained personal environment including a drug-dispensing apparatus, sophisticated communications equipment, and tactical map displays. Their powered armor made the Mobile Infantry a hybrid between an infantry unit and an armored one.

Another concept the book pioneered was that of "space-borne infantry". The heavily mechanized units of M.I. troops were attached to interstellar troop transport spacecraft, which then delivered them to planetary target zones, by dropping groups of Mobile Infantrymen onto the planet surface from orbit via individual re-entry capsules (hence the book's slang term "cap troopers" for M.I. troops). The uses for such a force?ranging from smash-and-burn raids, to surgical strikes, conventional infantry warfare, and holding beachheads?and the tactics that might be employed by such soldiers are described extensively within the novel. The tactics, training, and many other aspects of this futuristic elite force are carefully detailed: everything from the function of the armored suits themselves, to the need for multiple variants of powered armor, to the training of personnel in both suit operations and the specialized unit tactics that would be needed, to the operational use of the suits in combat.

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I guess you could say, if things turn out as planned, this new Starship Troopers film could be the Halo film fans were hoping for.
What are your views about the CGI show was that closer to the book than the movies were?
 

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rhizhim said:
how many times did a bad movie spawn a good sequel?
yeah, i thought so too.
Starshooper 3 was a sequel of a horrible sequel. Transformers 3 was a sequel of a horrible sequel too. And i'm most certainly missing a lot here.
 

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The one film that I'd actively petition to get remade (if I weren't so apathetic) would be Van Helsing.

So much potential squandered on a crappy story that would barely be passable in a computer game.

I'd also second the idea of rebooting Mortal Kombat. The mythology (as convoluted as it became) was one of the main things that kept me buying the games, even though I sucked at them. The Legacy web-series is okay, but a little hit-and-miss, and I wouldn't necessarily say no to the Nolan-esque Rebirth concept that first appeared on the web.

But it would be cool to see a movie (or a cable-TV series) that actually tackled the history and tried to create a coherent, textured story with these characters and this world (it can be done - oh yes! - it can be done). Imagine, it could be like Game of Thrones, but with ninjas and four-armed bodybuilders!
 

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Isn't it about time we had a remake of the Matrix? I mean, its been over ten years, so I'm surprised we haven't seen one already.

Only make it... less crap this time.

In fact, y'know what? Why not just get rid of the middleman and make a live action Ghost in the Shell movie.
 

babinro

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Star Wars Episode 1, 2 and 3.

Remake/Reboots. The overall story has such great cinematic potential if executed correctly.
 

SadakoMoose

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The first Candyman needs to be remade...
You know, with a Black protagonist?
Well meaning White academic to the rescue, yeah?
 

teebeeohh

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so to sum this up: just remake movies based on other media and give the job to people who now how to make a movie without butchering the source material?

and i don't want direct sequels and remakes, movies set in the same universe and movies exploring the same/similar ideas is ok but direct sequels(as in suing the exact same characters) work better in books and TV series. oh and remakes are largely shit, if you have a cool idea the movie should be able to stand on it's own without a famous name and most remakes are just attempts to link mediocre products to famous names for increased revenue.
there are very few movies where i liked the remake better and that was only because i saw those as a kid and nostalgia happened.
 

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Fantastic Four.

This is a franchise that could be wonderful in the right hands and the fact that they fucked it up as badly as they did continues to irritate me to no end.
 

Cid Silverwing

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Elect G-Max said:
Reboot Transformers. For the love of god, just scrap this Shia/Mumblebee story arc and start over with the Ark crew waking up in 1984.
I'm not a fan of Transformers, and even I hated Shia's performance in those movies.