Bands that get the most pointless hate

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I figure any band that is well known but gets a lot of hate probably doesn't deserve it. If they weren't that good and nobody liked them then they wouldn't be so famous. Although some people don't like their taste in music doesn't mean that the band sucks. Plus some people just like to hate on specific types of bands because they think they are "sellouts" or "popular" or "corprate slaves" or whatever. They never stop to actually listen to the music. I've never listened to Bieber's music yet so far, but I doubt he's really that bad that people need to hate him for his music. I mean he got popular for a reason right? He has to have some musical talent if so many people like him.
 

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JeanLuc761 said:
This should be interesting.

My choice is going to have to be...Nickelback. They're the definition of generic rock, I'll grant you, but I still think the hate against them is borderline absurd. Plus, god save me, I do love "Into the Night" and "If Today Was Your Last Day"
I have to agree, they are pretty boring in general, but they are not bad.
 

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Thedayrecker said:
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Swollen Goat said:
I don't understand the hate for Brokencyde. They're fine young men, and their music is really catchy.
Are you being sarcastic?

OT: IMO any (band) hate is pointless. I mean no point in arguing, and hating something that will become forgotten in a month. The Jonas Brothers are already fading from memory, and it won't be long 'til Justin Beiber is gone too.
Isn't the "sarcastic" question revealing your inner hate for BrokeNCYDE? Thus nullifying your post?
I don't hate them, I just think they're terrible. Probably because my friend was wearing one of their shirts, and I decided to check it out. Without warning, this came on

GAH. THAT'S THE WORST THING YOU CAN DO SHORT OF A TVTROPES LINK.

My rebuttal: <youtube=kO-XLQouIn0>
 

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Cannibal Corpse. If you knew the band members, you'd know they're really good guys. If you read their lyrics, you'd understand that they're all just make believe, and not some sadistic fantasy or message for youth to kill people. Their music is brutal and intense, and maybe that's not your cup of tea, that's fine, but I know most people who dislike them have not even let a single song finish before hitting pause. I'm cool if you don't like their music but I think it's unfair to not like it because of their image and genre, dislike them for the music itself.
 

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JeanLuc761 said:
This should be interesting.

My choice is going to have to be...Nickelback. They're the definition of generic rock, I'll grant you, but I still think the hate against them is borderline absurd. Plus, god save me, I do love "Into the Night" and "If Today Was Your Last Day"
Yeah, the worst thing I can say about Nickelback (other than Kroeger being an ass) is that they're utterly bland. They're certainly not awful, they're just....Unmemorable.
 

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Hating any band for reasons other than "they rape people", "they kill people", or "they wrote a song that sad mean things about my mom" is pointless. It is very easy to avoid music you don't like today.
 

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Every single music artist that is hated by anyone gets pointless hate. And that includes Justin Bieber (oooooh, controversial!). My reasoning is as thus. Music is subjective, just like art. Everyone has their likes and dislikes. And thus saying something is bad does not necessarily make it so. If you don't like Justin Bieber then that's fine. It doesn't make him bad, it just means that you don't like his particular style, whereas plenty of other people do otherwise they wouldn't be famous or successful in the first place. And besides, regarding the actual music, Bieber is actually a pretty good singer. The only thing about him I don't like is the fact that he's effectively been manufactured by the corporate bigwigs after they found his (good) videos on Youtube. If he'd been left to achieve fame naturally then he'd get much better rep. The guy does actually have talent, whether he sings 'your kind' of music or not.

Of course, posting logic on the internet is never a good idea, because nobody ever listens, so although what I say is truth and fact and makes sense, I have no doubt you'll all just ignore it for the sake of being pretentious hipster twats who refuse to even consider the possibility that something they don't like is, God-forbid, actually any good.

My little rant aside, I would pick one band in particular who don't deserve the hate thrust upon them, for the reasons stated above and for others. Nickelback. Thing is, they're a decent band who have a lot of fans, and yet for some bizarre reason they're lauded as being exactly what is wrong with rock music today. Never mind that they've won numerous awards, released multiple bestselling albums, released songs for films that were box office hits (well, Chad Kroeger did, at least...), and done work for charity too. And all the while managing to actually, you know, have proper musical talent...

Oh, and while I'm ranting in these little asides, I may as well mention another group of bands that get undeserved and pointless hate. Any band that ever dares to change their style in any way, even the most minor way possible. Everyone loved Linkin Park, Greenday, Muse, Arctic Monkeys, and so on, when they were in their early years. But then over time these guys developed their sounds and made changes. Subtle, and it took time, but still, changes. Linkin Park did it with Minutes to Midnight. Greenday did with 21st Century Breakdown. Muse with The Resistance. And Arctic Monkeys with their latest album, Humbug.

But the thing is, if these artists hadn't developed their styles into something new then so-called 'fans' would still find something to pick at. They'd be complaining that the artists and bands are getting boring and generic, that they refuse to change their styles in any way. Think about it. Greenday have been around since the early Nineties, of course they'll have changed their sound by now. Muse have had what, five albums? Linkin Park and Arctic Monkeys had both released three by the time people complained about them changing, with LP having just released their fourth album within the past few months. It's perfectly natural that their music styles would have developed and evolved. My point is, the idiots calling them out for changing and 'selling out' are just trying to find any excuse they can to complain about something that has done no wrong and doesn't deserve to be picked on like so.

And as my final rant, any band accused of 'selling out' without due reason is getting undeserved hate. An example. My brother used to be a massive fan of both Muse and Paramore, as am I. However, then Muse were asked to do a song for the Twilight films, because the author is a big Muse fan. They allowed the film-makers to use one of their older songs for the first film. Paramore also offered to write a song, because their lead singer is a fan of the series. Now, since said frontwoman, Hayley Williams, is a young woman who lies in the target demographic for the series, that's also perfectly acceptable. However, my brother decided that because each band has contributed in some way to Twilight, they are instantly sellouts. He tries to justify this by saying that they deliberately used Twilight to boost their fanbase, something that isn't true at all. Of course, I wonder how he'll react when he sees the bands he's a fan of that have also donated songs and whatnot to the series (Radiohead, Bombay Bicycle Club, The Killers, Editors, Vampie Weekend, Florence and the Machine, etc...).

I "listened". Using my eyes. I know. I'm special.
 

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Creed and more personally, Norma Jean.&nbsp; The lead for Creed (Scott Stapp?) has done some things to have people angry at him, but the music isn't too shabby and actually has some variety.&nbsp; I guess they were the original 'Nickelback'.&nbsp; NJ gets a whole cross-section of hate which is mostly unreasonable and completely undeserved and fairly confusing when you're actually familiar with their entire discography.

There are some artists that I certainly think are fair not to like (mostly pop artists) and then there are artists who have done things to anger you.&nbsp; I think Linkin Park, Green Day, Katy Perry and Micheal Jackson (left-field, sorry) would fit under the second.

A band I'm not sure why I respect would be Nirvana.&nbsp; I'm diametrically opposed to many of their attitudes, which even the Foo haven't really resolved. &nbsp;I guess what I respect is their attempt to stray from the limelight as role-models (which most artists shouldn't be) and commercial notoriety. &nbsp;But then they do things to make them laughable like having girls wearing anarchy tees in their music-videos and complaining about poor production sound.&nbsp; It's hard not to like the music though :/
 

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Any band that is hated for "Selling out". Most of the time you can't even prove the band has sold out instead of just changed their sound.

The band that comes to mind for this is Green Day. Especially since American Idiot was actually a great* album that was barely political at all (excluding the title track and Holiday), and had some really great songs outside of the singles. In fact, for the people that hate Green Day for going "political", you're thinking of 21st Century Breakdown, not American Idiot.

In fact, I change my nomination to specifically Green Day.

*-Subjective, I know.
 

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My Chemical Romance... they're actually extremely talented and their music is very well made... it's just that their fanbase makes them seem like a generic emo band when they're much more than that. I didn't want to listen to them at first because of their fans and their reputation, but when you actually listen to them, you'll realize they're not all that bad. And no, I don't try to "relate with the lyrics" or anything... actually, same goes for Escape the Fate. Check out this song [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FtMZVXnOGog] and if you ignore the image where it's hard to tell if they're girls or boys and just listen to the song, it's really actually pretty good and the guitarist is doing some pretty crazy stuff... those sweeps at the beginning are amazing...

I also happen to have an ironic love for Millionaires because I'm still convinced they're just trolling and so many people are falling for their elaborate scheme.
 

BonsaiK

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LightspeedJack said:
What bands get the most pointless hate?
None.

Pointless hate is never pointless. There's a point to it - advertising. If you really hate a band enough to post in a forum about it, you're probably being baited by the band themselves into giving them free publicity. Here's Millionaires, laying on the line what should be completely obvious to anyone with a brain:


CHORUS:

Money, diamonds, gold and ice
Yeah talk shit, you'll pay the price
Shut up ****, I'll cut your tongue
Back down *****, you're fucking done

Talk shit to us you fucking haters
You're the ones who fucking made us

So shut your mouth or I'll cut your tongue
Back down *****, you're fucking done

Verse 1:

You think this shit just comes easy
Let's see you try you fuckin' beezy
Let's see your band make number one
Back down *****, you're fucking done

This is to you moms and dads
You hate our shit, what a drag
'Cause I'm the one who fucks your son
Back down *****, you're fucking done

Verse 2:

Um is that your man? Ha, my bad!
Must've tripped and fell into his lap
He's teasing me pleasing me
Might just get a piece of me

Please don't look so sad you'll get him back
Just look like this and fuck like that
Millionaires are three to none
Back down ***** you're fucking done

Verse 3:

Trying to suck our teet, you're lame!
You just want us for the fame
We barely met, you're just a no-one
Back down *****, you're fucking done

You hate us and our stupid lyrics
But deep down you love to hear it

We're livin' life and havin' fun
So back down *****, you're fucking done

In fact the entire song is deliberately worded like an internet argument. Let's face it, "back down *****, you're fucking done" is just another way of saying "/thread" and don't we all hate that? These girls know the score, and they're trolling you all the way to the bank.

Remember that everything you post on The Escapist is google-searchable. Typing "millionaires band" into Google now gets over half a million hits, mostly relevant. They couldn't have done it without you.

ProfessorLayton said:
I also happen to have an ironic love for Millionaires because I'm still convinced they're just trolling and so many people are falling for their elaborate scheme.
This man gets it too.
 

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Trivun said:
Every single music artist that is hated by anyone gets pointless hate. And that includes Justin Bieber (oooooh, controversial!). My reasoning is as thus. Music is subjective, just like art. Everyone has their likes and dislikes. And thus saying something is bad does not necessarily make it so. If you don't like Justin Bieber then that's fine. It doesn't make him bad, it just means that you don't like his particular style, whereas plenty of other people do otherwise they wouldn't be famous or successful in the first place. And besides, regarding the actual music, Bieber is actually a pretty good singer. The only thing about him I don't like is the fact that he's effectively been manufactured by the corporate bigwigs after they found his (good) videos on Youtube. If he'd been left to achieve fame naturally then he'd get much better rep. The guy does actually have talent, whether he sings 'your kind' of music or not.
Regardless, there are somewhat objective ways to gauge musical talent, and that would be the technical difficulty of the musical piece in question. A guitar or violin solo of a high skill level is obviously a better quality piece of music than a song played on synth, which is why, regardless of personal taste, classical and metal music is always "better" than pop. You also get points for writing your own songs.

Of course, posting logic on the internet is never a good idea, because nobody ever listens, so although what I say is truth and fact and makes sense, I have no doubt you'll all just ignore it for the sake of being pretentious hipster twats who refuse to even consider the possibility that something they don't like is, God-forbid, actually any good.
Well, yeah...

My little rant aside, I would pick one band in particular who don't deserve the hate thrust upon them, for the reasons stated above and for others. Nickelback. Thing is, they're a decent band who have a lot of fans, and yet for some bizarre reason they're lauded as being exactly what is wrong with rock music today. Never mind that they've won numerous awards, released multiple bestselling albums, released songs for films that were box office hits (well, Chad Kroeger did, at least...), and done work for charity too. And all the while managing to actually, you know, have proper musical talent...
You're citing the fact that they are popular to support your idea that they are a good band, but that really doesn't mean anything. It just proves that there are a lot of uncultured people out there who are willing to listen to generic drivel and applaud it as genius.

Oh, and while I'm ranting in these little asides, I may as well mention another group of bands that get undeserved and pointless hate. Any band that ever dares to change their style in any way, even the most minor way possible. Everyone loved Linkin Park, Greenday, Muse, Arctic Monkeys, and so on, when they were in their early years. But then over time these guys developed their sounds and made changes. Subtle, and it took time, but still, changes. Linkin Park did it with Minutes to Midnight. Greenday did with 21st Century Breakdown. Muse with The Resistance. And Arctic Monkeys with their latest album, Humbug.

But the thing is, if these artists hadn't developed their styles into something new then so-called 'fans' would still find something to pick at. They'd be complaining that the artists and bands are getting boring and generic, that they refuse to change their styles in any way. Think about it. Greenday have been around since the early Nineties, of course they'll have changed their sound by now. Muse have had what, five albums? Linkin Park and Arctic Monkeys had both released three by the time people complained about them changing, with LP having just released their fourth album within the past few months. It's perfectly natural that their music styles would have developed and evolved. My point is, the idiots calling them out for changing and 'selling out' are just trying to find any excuse they can to complain about something that has done no wrong and doesn't deserve to be picked on like so.
Let me just state now that "hate" is a very strong emotion which I reserve for the worst injustices and never direct at something as inconsequential as the music someone makes. Having said that, I was quite disappointed by Linkin Park's recent albums (I never used to listen to the other bands you cited). I didn't like the turn that their music took and I thought it was rather inconsiderate to their fans, who got them to where they were, to say "look this is what we want to do now and we don't care what you think because there's more money in the mainstream market". Also, it's perfectly reasonable to expect a band's core style to remain the same as well as expect them to be original.

Let's take, for example, Yahtzee (which is probably a bad choice because people on the escapists seem to be suspiciously unwilling to admit that they like Yahtzee, and jump at the opportunity to insult him to prove they're not fanboys, because they know their love is unrequited and they don't want to seem needy.) Yahtzee uses the same yellow background and simplistic art style in all his videos, and he manages to make them interesting while retaining the core concept. If he suddenly changed his background to green and started using cartoons with discernible features it would understandably alienate his current fanbase and make his cartoons seem strange and unfamiliar. It wouldn't necessarily make them worse but you would also expect a lot of people to be upset about it because the change was unecessary and it would no longer genuine as far as they're concerned.

And as my final rant, any band accused of 'selling out' without due reason is getting undeserved hate. An example. My brother used to be a massive fan of both Muse and Paramore, as am I. However, then Muse were asked to do a song for the Twilight films, because the author is a big Muse fan. They allowed the film-makers to use one of their older songs for the first film. Paramore also offered to write a song, because their lead singer is a fan of the series. Now, since said frontwoman, Hayley Williams, is a young woman who lies in the target demographic for the series, that's also perfectly acceptable. However, my brother decided that because each band has contributed in some way to Twilight, they are instantly sellouts. He tries to justify this by saying that they deliberately used Twilight to boost their fanbase, something that isn't true at all. Of course, I wonder how he'll react when he sees the bands he's a fan of that have also donated songs and whatnot to the series (Radiohead, Bombay Bicycle Club, The Killers, Editors, Vampie Weekend, Florence and the Machine, etc...).
Look, Twilight is a really bad book. Just because someone lies within the target demographic (as I do, coincidentally) doesn't make them any less stupid for liking it. If I were your brother I'd like to think they were "selling out" too, because the only other explanation would be that the lead singer of one of the bands I admire is a vacuous moron.
 

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Genesis gets a lot of pointless hate from its own "fans". It's either "Genesis went corporate after Peter Gabirel left." or "All of that old Genesis doesn't have any beat."

Now I find that there are both good and bad albums on both sides of the fence.

My favourite albums are:

Lamb Lies Down On Broadway, Trick Of The Tail, Selling England By The Pound, Wind And Wuthering and finally And Then There Were Three...
 

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I'm surprised that given all the talk about My Chemical Romance that no one has brought up the amazing cover they did of Desolation Row. The song was used over the ending credits for Watchmen. "Nuff said.

[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FOuSxal8pf4]
 

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well being 1 of the handful of metal heads stuck in a town of country hicks I hear a lot of crap about bands I like.

1) Slipknot; stupidest argument I've heard is, "they suck because they need 9 members to sound good," So they sound good but they suck because their different?

2) Any metal/hard rock band with a girl singer; because apparently everyone thinks only guys can sing for heavy bands and girls have to be in kitchens making sammiches.

3) Metallica; I always hear, "they suck because they sold out and changed their sound," and I think that just makes you sound stupid. Sure, I don't think their music is as good nowadays either, but if they kept putting Enter Sandman and Sad But True clones every CD then they would just get boring.
 

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KefkaCultist said:
3) Metallica; I always hear, "they suck because they sold out and changed their sound," and I think that just makes you sound stupid. Sure, I don't think their music is as good nowadays either, but if they kept putting Enter Sandman and Sad But True clones every CD then they would just get boring.
Actually Enter Sandman and Sad But True were recorded after they changed their sound, not before.
 

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KefkaCultist said:
1) Slipknot; stupidest argument I've heard is, "they suck because they need 9 members to sound good," So they sound good but they suck because their different?
It's because they really are not that great (I find them merely alright, but that's not the point). And having nine members in your band and being out-done by a one-man project whose sole member is far younger than all of your members does not bode well for your band, really.
 

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Green Day. I think it's mostly to do with the whole "what is punk?" discussion.

Whether you like their image or not, you have to consider a couple of things.

1: They nailed the spirit of 80s punk music bang on with a couple of songs (American Idiot, Know Your Enemy)
2: The Sex Pistols reunited a few years ago to do an incredibly bad, but financially successful tour.

That's my take anyway.
 

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Lopsided Weener said:
The issue I have with Justin Bieber is not only with his music, it's with his Personality aswell. He acts like a total arse.

OT: I generally don't have issues with the music of whatever band/ artist itself. I only start to hate them if the music is bad (or even decent in some cases) AND the artist is an idiot.
No I'm pretty sure that's the media and such portraying him as such. I also say Justin Bieber.

Swollen Goat said:
I don't understand the hate for Brokencyde. They're fine young men, and their music is really catchy.
Trollololololol!