Bashing the French, why?

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Abedeus

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WWI, WWII.

French used to be cool, back in the Napolean times it was my favorite country.

Yes, I'm over 360 years old.
 

manic_depressive13

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Because they lose wars and eat cheese, or so I'm told.

My greade two english teacher told me never to start a sentence with 'because' and now I feel dirty.
 

Bluesmachine

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TheCameraman said:
Salem_Wolf said:
Isn't every nationality an open invitation to be bashed? At the risk of being moderated for this, I'm going to list examples (And I do happen to be American, quarter-Irish and quarter-Italian, so I'm really bashing myself here as well):

French - Smelly and cowardly
American - Obese and stupid
Japanese - Weird and highly perverted
Spanish - Moochers and dirty
Irish - Drunkards
Italian - Fat pasta lovers

Wait, did I go from Bashing to mixing in stereotypes? Crap, probably. But the point is, the French is just seemingly an easy target, but it doesn't take you long before you find people Bashing pretty much every country and nationality there is, not just the French. Perhaps the whole REASON behind it is because the French surrendered during World War 2 because they were weak-willed and Americans feel the need to remind them that we won the war and they surrendered.

It's all kind of silly really, but that's what I think the reason is.
I agree that might be the case. However, the strange thing I've found is that this bashing was almost non-existant until a couple of years ago. At least that's what I've noticed.
It hasn't just been around for the last couple of years. I can assure you it's been a constant theme for as long as I can remember. I even remember my teachers in primary school, 30 years ago, all sharing jokes about it that I didn't understand back then. Also, watch Dylan Moran's "monster" DVD. He refers to the French as cheese eating surrender monkeys in that (or to be more accurate he mentions that he's heard them being referred to as that).

That's my boring observation for the day done. Now I shall toddle off into town to shout at single parents.
 

savandicus

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For the british i think the reason we bash the french so much is because we like them so much.

Wine, bagettes, pain au chocolaté, cheese. All great things that come from france, not to mention they have brilliant ski slopes.

Its a very british thing that we constantly make friendly insults at eachother.
 

TheCameraman

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Bluesmachine said:
TheCameraman said:
Salem_Wolf said:
Isn't every nationality an open invitation to be bashed? At the risk of being moderated for this, I'm going to list examples (And I do happen to be American, quarter-Irish and quarter-Italian, so I'm really bashing myself here as well):

French - Smelly and cowardly
American - Obese and stupid
Japanese - Weird and highly perverted
Spanish - Moochers and dirty
Irish - Drunkards
Italian - Fat pasta lovers

Wait, did I go from Bashing to mixing in stereotypes? Crap, probably. But the point is, the French is just seemingly an easy target, but it doesn't take you long before you find people Bashing pretty much every country and nationality there is, not just the French. Perhaps the whole REASON behind it is because the French surrendered during World War 2 because they were weak-willed and Americans feel the need to remind them that we won the war and they surrendered.

It's all kind of silly really, but that's what I think the reason is.
I agree that might be the case. However, the strange thing I've found is that this bashing was almost non-existant until a couple of years ago. At least that's what I've noticed.
It hasn't just been around for the last couple of years. I can assure you it's been a constant theme for as long as I can remember. I even remember my teachers in primary school, 30 years ago, all sharing jokes about it that I didn't understand back then. Also, watch Dylan Moran's "monster" DVD. He refers to the French as cheese eating surrender monkeys in that (or to be more accurate he mentions that he's heard them being referred to as that).

That's my boring observation for the day done. Now I shall toddle off into town to shout at single parents.
But are you from Britain? Making jokes about France in Britain seems a bit like making jokes about Sweden here in Norway, and vice versa. No offense to my swedish brothers. ;)
 

Darth Sea Bass

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At the americans i don't think the fundamentalist christians you seem to have an abundance of helps your cause either!

Hmm i really want to save my daughter what should i try prayer or a dose of fucking insulin.

Other than guys like that your all great i know i'd rather live in america than england right now!
 

Bluesmachine

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TheCameraman said:
Bluesmachine said:
TheCameraman said:
Salem_Wolf said:
Isn't every nationality an open invitation to be bashed? At the risk of being moderated for this, I'm going to list examples (And I do happen to be American, quarter-Irish and quarter-Italian, so I'm really bashing myself here as well):

French - Smelly and cowardly
American - Obese and stupid
Japanese - Weird and highly perverted
Spanish - Moochers and dirty
Irish - Drunkards
Italian - Fat pasta lovers

Wait, did I go from Bashing to mixing in stereotypes? Crap, probably. But the point is, the French is just seemingly an easy target, but it doesn't take you long before you find people Bashing pretty much every country and nationality there is, not just the French. Perhaps the whole REASON behind it is because the French surrendered during World War 2 because they were weak-willed and Americans feel the need to remind them that we won the war and they surrendered.

It's all kind of silly really, but that's what I think the reason is.
I agree that might be the case. However, the strange thing I've found is that this bashing was almost non-existant until a couple of years ago. At least that's what I've noticed.
It hasn't just been around for the last couple of years. I can assure you it's been a constant theme for as long as I can remember. I even remember my teachers in primary school, 30 years ago, all sharing jokes about it that I didn't understand back then. Also, watch Dylan Moran's "monster" DVD. He refers to the French as cheese eating surrender monkeys in that (or to be more accurate he mentions that he's heard them being referred to as that).

That's my boring observation for the day done. Now I shall toddle off into town to shout at single parents.
But are you from Britain? Making jokes about France in Britain seems a bit like making jokes about Sweden here in Norway, and vice versa. No offense to my swedish brothers. ;)
Yep, I'm in north Wales, which in itself receives more than it's fair share of jokes from the English. Mainly regarding sheep. Always mocking our women :(
 

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Because it's funny France doesn't have an impressive recent military history and Americans like guns and stuff.
I don't know.

I can't talk, anyway. I'm Hungarian.
 

Danzaivar

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Because it's the only racism anyone can get away with anymore. So we go mad at them. Those damned cheese eating surrender monkeys...

(Everyone else used that term in this thread, so yeah!)
 

DazBurger

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I can see why brits hate the french, since they have a long history of war.

But America? France HELPED in the liberation of America.

If it wasent for the french, it would still be a colony :D


... Damn french! :/
 

notsosavagemessiah

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TheCameraman said:
Salem_Wolf said:
Isn't every nationality an open invitation to be bashed? At the risk of being moderated for this, I'm going to list examples (And I do happen to be American, quarter-Irish and quarter-Italian, so I'm really bashing myself here as well):

French - Smelly and cowardly
American - Obese and stupid
Japanese - Weird and highly perverted
Spanish - Moochers and dirty
Irish - Drunkards
Italian - Fat pasta lovers

Wait, did I go from Bashing to mixing in stereotypes? Crap, probably. But the point is, the French is just seemingly an easy target, but it doesn't take you long before you find people Bashing pretty much every country and nationality there is, not just the French. Perhaps the whole REASON behind it is because the French surrendered during World War 2 because they were weak-willed and Americans feel the need to remind them that we won the war and they surrendered.

It's all kind of silly really, but that's what I think the reason is.
I agree that might be the case. However, the strange thing I've found is that this bashing was almost non-existant until a couple of years ago. At least that's what I've noticed.
the issue i take with with your stereotype list is that i agree with 2 of them. mostly.

First, the french. Typically, you find the bashing of the french comes from people who are generally very right wing politically. Their hatred comes from the fact that during the invasion of iraq they were some of our most stalwart opposition. Hence why it really wasn't that common up until about 8 years ago. Combine that with the stereotype that came from god knows where and you have a recipe for pointless hate no matter what.



americans by and large in contrast with other countries are actually quite obese, grossly so even. As for the intelligence factor, well, i'll just say that since we have schools and a functional education system, we're not as bad off as we could be.

I'm going to say it now. The japanese ARE weird in contrast with what traditional western culture views as being acceptable. To the japanese, it's totally not strange to have cartoon pornography litter your video game and memorbilia store. It's totally not strange to cafe's where girls in maid outfits give your cards and beg you to become their masters (these are real places). None of this is bizarre in their culture. Because it's just that. Their culture. A very traditional place that is still very male centric and very much about respect. There's a lot about there culture that i don't fully understand, but from what i gather they tend to be so respectful towards people that it borders on repression. Repression is what leads to all weird shit that comes out of this country, but again, it's only weird to gaijin.

Being half mexican i can talk about the mexicans, and mexicans only. From what i've seen they are just as varied as anybody else, but if they live in america, they can quickly fall into the american stereotype as well. The laziness stereotype comes from the fact that, yes, some are in fact abyssmaly lazy. But the truth is, we're no more lazy then anybody else, it's just more noticeable when we do it.

As for the irish. I've not met very many, but the few i have, well, turns out they could in fact drink. But, usually, this was only for fun. They were in fact, normal, functioning members of society, no different then you or I. Now the scots... that's an entirely different matter. j/k

don't know any italians. But i've met some guidos, and hopefully, real italians are nothing like them.
 

goatzilla8463

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I'm British (well, Chinese actually but yeah) and I don't slag off the french, that's usually reserved for Americans.

It's probably because it easy to take the piss out of the French as they have so many things that could be seen as potential faults by other people.
 

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Damn cheese-eating surrender monkeys!
You get a cookie just because I saw your avatar and had to imagine Liquid saying that.

OT: Because they surrendered in WWII, Thus they are branded cowards now and forever.
 

FightThePower

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Hey, I like the French. It's hard to hate a country that created something as awesome as Daft Punk.
 

Internet Kraken

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Darth Sea Bass said:
At the americans i don't think the fundamentalist christians you seem to have an abundance of helps your cause either!

Hmm i really want to save my daughter what should i try prayer or a dose of fucking insulin.

Other than guys like that your all great i know i'd rather live in america than england right now!
What the fuck does this have to do with anything?

Anyways, I'm not sure exactly why people make fun of the French. Maybe it's because of what they did in WWI and WWII
 

Agrael

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To be quite honest, France got rolled over basically in every war AFTER and BEFORE Napoleon (Ah! France's own Hitler). But, I like the French people - friendly, well groomed etc.
 

Yamiki

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I don't think the question is why, rather it should be why not?
Nationality bashing is as old as the caves so why fight millions of years of practice, as long as you can recognise that we (the people/bashers) don't actually mean you (the people/bashees) much harm.
As an Australian with mixed European heritage I can say thus.
Nationality bashing is a way of making light fun of sterotypes and I for one don't see what is so bad as long as you don't go to far.
The French do cop a fair bit of it you dang snail slurping, frog leg comsuming weirdos but I have no problems with them and enjoy a bit of a laugh at them, or America, or England or Australia or Japan.