Bashing the P0rnz
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Firstly, teenagers find porn when they want to. odds are, if you are looking for it, you're going to find it, and if you aren't, then you probably won't. And I'm not talking about accidentally seeing some erotic image in a pop up, I mean porn.
Secondly, the only thing that porn really does, as far as a casual observer can tell, is that it incredibly confuses many, many, many pubescent males into thinking something that isn't true. It simply doesn't work in real life like it does in pornos.
Thirdly, a huge problem with our current society is simply that sex is made into something taboo. Half of the allure behind finding it is that it is simply curiosity to go find that which they are specifically told not to. It seems by unintentional reverse psychology that young adults are not only encouraged to find it, they are driven to find it.
Religions aside, personal ethics aside, sex is a COMPLETELY NATURAL part of life. It and death are about the only things that are nowadays. People will find it when they want to, one way or another it will happen. Yeah, we all know it is breaking the law, and yeah, WE DON'T CARE. I don't see a good reason to hide it. Teaching it more in it's complexity would be better. Teaching it in depth and appropriately would be the best thing to do.
This is all from the perspective of a childless, half-informed probably partially naive male college student, but still. I think I only managed to address part of the problem, but I really don't have enough room to go into detail, nor the drive to try and sort out my own views.
Secondly, the only thing that porn really does, as far as a casual observer can tell, is that it incredibly confuses many, many, many pubescent males into thinking something that isn't true. It simply doesn't work in real life like it does in pornos.
Thirdly, a huge problem with our current society is simply that sex is made into something taboo. Half of the allure behind finding it is that it is simply curiosity to go find that which they are specifically told not to. It seems by unintentional reverse psychology that young adults are not only encouraged to find it, they are driven to find it.
Religions aside, personal ethics aside, sex is a COMPLETELY NATURAL part of life. It and death are about the only things that are nowadays. People will find it when they want to, one way or another it will happen. Yeah, we all know it is breaking the law, and yeah, WE DON'T CARE. I don't see a good reason to hide it. Teaching it more in it's complexity would be better. Teaching it in depth and appropriately would be the best thing to do.
This is all from the perspective of a childless, half-informed probably partially naive male college student, but still. I think I only managed to address part of the problem, but I really don't have enough room to go into detail, nor the drive to try and sort out my own views.
It would be harsh if it wasn't backed up by him actively flame-baiting for some sweet internet drama. And the fact that he registered and posted just for this topic. Why would an anti-porn demonstrator register to a video-game forum for reasons other than video-games?IBlackKiteI said:
There is a chance that he's honest, and that's why my post isn't just "don't feed the troll!" I'm not one to ignore a juicy discussion.
I remember hunting for porn in the woods, parks, alleys and Daily Star when I was a pre-teen.
Kids are curious critters and although the internet has made it FAR easier to see naked people it doesn't mean they wouldn't if it wasn't there. They'd find another way. A frankly disgusting, dangerous and far less satisfying way.
Parents of young children should take the responsibility to block certain sites, monitor their kids activities and more importantly, remain open and honest with them about the process. The more questions they have and the more obscure your answers, the more likely they'll be to go all out on their quest for information.
Kids are curious critters and although the internet has made it FAR easier to see naked people it doesn't mean they wouldn't if it wasn't there. They'd find another way. A frankly disgusting, dangerous and far less satisfying way.
Parents of young children should take the responsibility to block certain sites, monitor their kids activities and more importantly, remain open and honest with them about the process. The more questions they have and the more obscure your answers, the more likely they'll be to go all out on their quest for information.
This, yes, a hundred times Yes!Sheinen said:
Firstly, I'm in agreement with the stereootypical 'finding top shelf magazines in the woods' thing, it happened to me and happened to friends too, and they were prized possessions back in the way. I'll be amazed if we ever go back to a time where a kid of 14 would be seeing his first photo of a naked woman. Hardcore stuff came years later, when a kid sneaked a video from his dad and we all sat around pretty much just going 'ew', but still with a cushion pressed across our laps, heh.
Seriously tho, parents need to understand that the internet has EVERYTHING. In so many ways this is a truly great thing, it means you have a library the size of a planet accessible at home, you can watch videos from decades past, from other countries and languages, but it also means that there's a sizable amount of materials not suitable for everyone.
Simply engage with your kids, try not to build a culture of shame, so they can come and talk about things they see, or hear about from friends, and maybe we'll have less people psychologically screwed up in the next generation.
I do wish there was some way to make sure that, and I know this is one of those 'wouldn't it be nice if' thoughts, but, if there was a way to make sure that people didn't get into doing porn just because they were desperate for money. I'm sure there are people out there who can seperate sex and emotion and just genuinely enjoy doing porn and earning a good wage doing it, but I do feel like the industry more than many craves fresh meat and uses people and spits em out pretty damn quickly.
After all, if you're an actor, and you appear in a crappy B movie, then never get another job, it's not going to affect your future life, however, if you make one porn movie where you just blow a dozen guys, and it resurfaces 10 years later, it could screw your current career (no pun intended). I don't think that's right, but it's how it is, people are way too happy to moralise about the past.
There is of course the misinformation problem too, which is why sex education is even more important now, and I think it's wrong to let parents 'opt out' of having their children taught about sex and relationships. Note I don't mean just sex, but emotions, the human side as well as just the IKEA based put tab A in slot B, slot C if she's drunk or it's your birthday and she's in a good mood.
(a momentary side step here, why do so many men who live in terror of being in the same room as a gay man, obsess about anal sex, when it's essentially going to feel like sex with a man, at least in one way?)
We need to make sure kids know, before puberty, that unprotected sex not only spreads disease, including the worst and most dangerous disease of all, more kids, but that it can affect your life in many ways, and that maybe whacking off is a sin, but there's far worse ones out there
Reminds me of the tale of the young couple 10 years in the future visiting the doctor, because they can't get pregnant, and the doctor asks them about how they're having sex. The guy says 'Oh the usual way like in the online videos, I make sure that at the vital moment I pull out of her butt and aim it at her face. I just can't understand what we're doing wrong.'
Just as a personal note, my month had no problem with me owning soft porn mags, but drew a line at hardcore stuff as she felt the women were being used, and I still tend to agree at some level, at least in some cases.
(a momentary side step here, why do so many men who live in terror of being in the same room as a gay man, obsess about anal sex, when it's essentially going to feel like sex with a man, at least in one way?)
We need to make sure kids know, before puberty, that unprotected sex not only spreads disease, including the worst and most dangerous disease of all, more kids, but that it can affect your life in many ways, and that maybe whacking off is a sin, but there's far worse ones out there
Reminds me of the tale of the young couple 10 years in the future visiting the doctor, because they can't get pregnant, and the doctor asks them about how they're having sex. The guy says 'Oh the usual way like in the online videos, I make sure that at the vital moment I pull out of her butt and aim it at her face. I just can't understand what we're doing wrong.'
Just as a personal note, my month had no problem with me owning soft porn mags, but drew a line at hardcore stuff as she felt the women were being used, and I still tend to agree at some level, at least in some cases.
Women porn actresses have the right to ask for any past medical health before they have sex with anyone, and after that they have the right to inspect the penis of the man, and if it isn't up to snuff, then she has all the right to say no, she gets paid a tonne of money per shoot, and one shoot isn't going to take a chunk out of her salary, and toward your "sex is emotional" no, it's just not, it simply exists to pass genes from one person to another to continue the cycle, people have simply stamped it with the pretense that it is 'intimate' and 'loving' when all your doing is making millions of sperm fight each other to live. No discussion here...
Considering how easy porn is to access on the Internet, I can see where the OP is coming from, and frankly I agree.Zachary Amaranth said:
I have no idea what you mean by "squicky", but when it comes to watching some other dude have sex, that's precisely what I was saying. Who the hell wants to see that? Certainly not I. Ugh, makes me sick.
Nice handful of unattributed quotes.Gentile said:
Ah well.
You know what's easier to access? TV. Sorry, but there's sex on broadcast, and you don't even need to pay for it.canadamus_prime said:
The topic at hand seems to be at least one part "Things are worse now than when I was young," And trust me, it ain't true. If teen pregnancy and the like weren't down, if the average onset of sexuality were really all that different, maybe.