CpT_x_Killsteal said:
Funny how all the games and features you seem to like just HAPPEN to be on console you bought. I mean, there's a very very extremely tiny set of games you seem to like, yet their genres are all over the place. The only thing they have in common is that they're available on that console and come free* or discounted* with the subscription you're strong-armed into buying. And you seem to dislike everything that isn't on PS4 as well. I'm no psychologist, but I'd say you're trying reeeal hard to justify your purchase.
I don't really care for the core genres of PC gaming so thus I really don't care about most of PC gaming's exclusive titles. It's not like I wasn't looking at the GOG or Steam summer sales, I did and bought 2 games I was interested in (Shadowrun Dragonfall and Mark of the Ninja). I'll get XCOM 2 if it's only on PC as well, I'm guessing there will be a console version though, just not done by Firaxis. There's actually more WiiU games I want to play vs PC games right now as I NEED to play Bayonetta 2 as Bayonetta was my favorite game of last-gen. So the PS4 is not perfect but it does have the most games I want to play. I actually rolled me eyes when I saw a post from a friend saying the new Guerrilla Game's title Horizon was awesome as I knew nothing about it and just figured it was another FPS (another genre I don't care about). Then I saw the trailer and thought it was indeed awesome.
No. People aren't going to by the PC version of a game if they don't have a PC to run it on.
Some people do care about FPS, some don't. It depends on the the type of game they prefer to play, as well as what's more important to then (graphical quality, resolution, FPS).
Everyone talks about graphical quality. This is a visual medium afterall.
Also, get a load of this:
Console gamers aren't cranky over resolution or fps, PC gamers bring that up more than anyone.
Of course, if one console has better resolution or framerate, console gamers talk that shit up mainly for the purpose of demonstrating their console is better than the other.
Way to immediately contradict yourself. Round of applause.
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Emphasis on the "I". You are in the minority here. If they all slipped back to 720p, no one would ever hear the end of it.
But most people do have the choice to upgrade their PC or get a console and most choose to get the console and it's about the same money (assuming you have a desktop PC as you can reuse at least a few parts to get that cost of a gaming PC to at least the same price point as a console even if you can just reuse like the case and HD).
Probably about a year back there was a poll here about 60fps vs 30fps and I was surprised that most (lots of PC gamers too) really didn't care as long as the framerate was steady considering the Escapist has a pretty big PC user base here.
How is that a contradiction? Console gamers (mainly kids on Gamefaqs) will start the whole PS/Xbox sucks when they get the better version of a game. Console gamers don't really care about graphics nor do many gamers; of course, I'm talking about quality graphics vs top-notch graphics as no one wants their game looking like shit either.
I think games would be so much better if stuff like writing and AI were emphasized vs just better graphical fidelity. Using that extra hardware for stuff other than graphics would make games much better IMO vs the same gameplay but with prettier graphics (like the new Batman) like we have now. Give me 720p with great AI and awesome writing, I'd be ecstatic. I have no clue if the majority think that, but I do.
Wait, so what you're saying is, you bought a digital copy on PSN and sold it back to them. I smell bullshit.
No. I bought a physical copy of Infinite, played it, and sold it. Before the DLC even came out, it was free on PS+, thus I was able to download the game and buy & play the DLC with already having sold the game. Same works for multiplayer at times.
I'm just saying what did Live Gold actually GIVE users that they couldn't get for free? Online and Netflix (and you still had to pay Netflix BTW) was the main reason people paid for Gold. Gold gave you literally nothing until Games with Gold due to PS+ pressuring them. That's just facts, not being a fanboy. Hell, if Xbox actually had better exclusives, I'd buy an Xbox over a PlayStation.
How in the hell would you know? You said yourself PC doesn't interest you and that you're not that interested in mods. You say the Skyrim mods that add better writing and characters to the game are shit, but you haven't even looked. I didn't even link you to the ones I was talking about, yet you're going on and on like an expert that's used them. How much shit are you going to pull out of your arse here?
Most PC games don't have the popularity of Skyrim thus don't have the litany of mods. I just looked up Dishonored and there's only 4 mods for that. I didn't lose out on playing the console version due to PC mods. I do know about mods to a degree as I have friends that PC game like I remember a friend saying there's a mod to add a bunch of classes in Neverwinter Nights, which is pretty cool. Regardless on how awesome/shitty that "Interesting NPC" mod is, it doesn't fix the shitty writing/questing of the main/faction quests of Skyrim. I just googled the mod and found people saying it really wasn't that good. I'd be surprised if it was that good just due to non-professional writers creating free content is probably not going to be too good. Don't get me wrong, I applaud the effort of that kind of stuff but that doesn't make it good either.
http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/615805-the-elder-scrolls-v-skyrim/68717927
Probably because it's not on PS4 and anything that isn't on PS4 is obviously bad.
Not at all.
I know the mouse gives you better aim but I hate using the keyboard for gaming.
Then don't. You get a choice on PC. You can use whatever you want.
If I use a mouse for the better aiming, what can I use in place of the keyboard then? I think I'm suck with the keyboard. And any 3rd-person games are usually better with a controller, not just racing games.
You can type as many words as you like mate, but it's clear where this is coming from.
Anyhow, there's not really a point in continuing this conversation. You love PS4, you like all the things on PS4, and all the things you happen to like, happen to be on PS4 and that's all just a wonderful coincidence, just like everything you're not interested in is on PC or Xbox. Just a big ol' coincidence and not fanboyism to justify a purchase, which apparently needs so much justification to such an extent that you need start a thread about PC gaming being bad because one pub/dev did a shit port (as if that's some massive deal).
I mentioned several games that aren't on PS4 that I am interested in and do play. You're the one turning this into PS4 has everything, not me. And, again, there is no way a PC gamer can argue that you will run into less issues with PC gaming vs console gaming and that's why none of your post has anything to do with proving that wrong.
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Strelok said:
Phoenixmgs said:
If people cared so much about graphics, the PC version of a game would sell way more than console versions.
http://www.dsogaming.com/news/report-a-vast-number-of-multi-platform-games-sell-better-on-the-pc-than-on-xbox-one/
Uhh... PS4 versions usually outsell PC versions just like Witcher 3.
Your using GTAV (and last-gen games) as an argument? Most console gamers played that on last-gen systems already. I'd hope the PC version sold more than current-gen versions (since people played that on PS3/360) but it didn't even beat Xbone numbers according to your sources.
I will take a stab in the dark and guess "PC tech" is actually tier one phone support for an internet service provider.
Nope, try again.
Charcharo said:
I dont now about Dishonored. Look up STALKER's mods and Half Life's mods then.
Some of those are of expansion pack/ DLC quality. Others are new games basically. Giving them anything less than that much respect... means you dont respect games.
One of the few areas where it is black and white to me. Sorry.
My issue isn't that games do have quality/great mods (I'm not denying that) but what percentage of games have quality/great mods that really enhance the base experience?
I've said this to you before that I really don't care about expansion/DLC type content as I don't have to the time to play all the games I want to let alone have the luxury of playing each game more (with additional content). I've only played 1 expansion of Borderlands 2 to this date. If I had a lot more time, I probably would PC game a lot more, but I just don't. I think for a lot of gamers this is the same case as you see people mention their backlogs quite often here and any gaming site.
Neonsilver said:
Honestly, that doesn't sound like you know that well what you are doing. You deactivated auto update from windows, since you consider it less troublesome to restore an image instead of fixing pc issues, I assume you don't update manually either. Otherwise it would be a lot more troublesome using images since you would have to create one every once in a while.
Not having up to date software alone can cause a lot of problems with new software.
There is a huge number of possible hard and software combinations that for pc, too many for developers to test them all. I would assume that at least for things like drivers and OS they simply assume the user has a certain version or better.
In regards to playing with the registry and services, it's very easy to deactivate services that are required for other stuff without noticing it.
And please do yourself a favor and get a proper antivir software and update your software. Resetting with an image might be easier than fixing a computer, but if you actually know what you are doing and protect your pc properly, it will run smoothly for years without any need for fixes.
In my opinion the reason why PC ports are often broken is because the devs are working with a something like a self fulfilling prophecy. They assume that most buy console versions anyway, so they see it like they would waste money with a good pc port. The gamers don't want a shitty port so they buy a console version instead.
So by buying console versions instead of waiting for a fixed PC version you become part of the problem. Besides, thanks to the money milking dlc practices, you always waste money by buying something when it's freshly released, no matter the platform. It's best to wait until you get everything in one edition.
I've hadn't had a PC problem in probably at least 10 years. Occasionally, I get the whole "you need XYZ installed before installing ABC" but that's not really a problem as I then just go and install XYZ. If you are behind NAT and have a firewall up, you literally have to download a virus yourself to get a virus. You won't find nothing but a few tracking cookies (text files) at worst on my computer if you were to scan it. There is seriously no point to anti-virus programs besides for people who don't know what they are doing and for techs to fix those computers when brought in.
Also, Witcher 3 sold less on PC than PS4 when gamers do have good faith in CD Project Red on the PC.
elvor0 said:
It's funny that you should bring up Batman of all games to explain why you don't PC game. What was the defining feature of Arkham Origins? The fact that it was a buggy, crashy glitchy mess that the developers straight out said they were never going to fix. Shit out of luck if you're playing that game on a console, because it's still a crashy, glitchy mess.
Skyrim on the PS3 took over a year to be fixed (and I believe FO 3/NV had issues too), AC Unity was....AC Unity. Halo Collection, The Crew etc
Also, not using Windows software on your PC, disabling start up programs, disabling updates and running no Anti Virus doesn't make you a PC techy. It makes you fulfill your own worries.
Frankly, by this page, you should have noticed that everyone is laughing at you, which I should hope makes you rethink your argument. Because noone here agrees with you.
It's a higher initial investment, but it pays for itself in no time. Beyond games just being flat out cheaper, you've got steam sales and humble bundles, GoG and Green Man gaming enabling you to float away on a cloud of cheap games.
Origins was bugged ridden across the board, most console games with issues are issues across the board. There's no way PC gaming has less issues than console gaming, that is the whole point. Sometimes you can't even run the PC game.
There's tons of cheap games on consoles too when games get older just like on PC. I didn't see Witcher 3 for anymore than 10% off during GOG's sale. I usually get console games for at least $10 off on release day, which is more than 10%. Join the Best Buy gaming club thing and new releases are just about $35.
Kathinka said:
And even that initial investment is not that high. Sure, you can go totally overboard and pay 5000 bucks for a rig in a case carved out of bones of endangered tigers, filled with four top tier graphic cards and an octa-core processor cooled by the hand collected tears of virgins.
But a only a little bit over 400 bucks is what you need to assemble a machine capable of outperforming current gen consoles.
If you are starting from scratch, a decent gaming rig is at least $500. Whereas a console is $400 and usually comes with a game bundled.
Revolutionary said:
As has been pointed out this does happen on consoles, not only that but situations like batman are more the exception than the rule. Your position is frankly ridiculous.
You run into more issues PC gaming than console gaming, thinking anything else is ridiculous.
