Battlefield 3 vs Battlefield 4

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So I've been wanting to play Battlefield for a while but online shooters don't tend to hold my interest in the ong term, so I didn't want to spent much money. Battlefield 3 is currently on sale for $5, on Gamers Gate. I know Battlefield 4 had a lot of bugs but do people still play Battlefield 3? If I'm at all interested in trying the series, should I jump on this deal or is Battlefield 4 better?
 

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Adam Jensen said:
It's a modern military shooter. Which means it's the same game with a different number on it.
But with slightly different weapons,vehicles and maps.

But yeah pretty much the same thing but with more bloom and slightly less destruction.

i played BF3 back when it came out in 2011 but stopped after a few months once they allowed kids to rent servers and ban people from them when they imposed silly childish rules and then I just couldn't play the game anymore and wasn't willing to fork over another £40 for DLC maps that were months away from release.

In fact I hardly ever want to buy much if any map packs again since most FPS communities treat them as mini "vacations" where they spend 2 weeks if not a few more on one map, then move to another and the previous maps die off.

These days though I'm more or less playing a little of Battlefield Bad Company 2 with the only two problems being a few constant maps with lack of rotations and base campers that tuned into kids sputing "lolfuk you scrub git gud".

Getting a bit bored of planetside 2 also since grinding for certs is hardly fun when you try to get the bread and butter weapons and equipment.

I really need a new FPS to play, maybe that new Wolfenstein game could tide me over until TF comes out.
 

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I really enjoyed Battlefield 3. It's a good game solo, but even better with friends. The only thing that really held back my enjoyment was with how bad you will do your first few games. It doesn't take long to unlock some decent stuff, but you are at a severe disadvantage for the first few levels. I still reccomend it, and the vehicles are really fun. The playerbase is still there on all platforms as well. And for $5? That's a steal. Give it a try, you won't regret it. The PC version is considered better by many, but I have the 360 version.
 

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Adam Jensen said:
It's a modern military shooter. Which means it's the same game with a different number on it.
Actually, the Battlefield series was reasonably innovative with its formula up through Battlefield 3. Unfortunately, now the games are forced into two years of development rather than three, and with them getting bigger and bigger, I think DICE has officially passed the point where it can change much and still get a half-finished product out the door in time.

OT:

I haven't played Battlefield 4 due to all the problems it reportedly had, but I hear it didn't update BF3 all that much. Battlefield 3 was reasonably good for an online shooter. For me it was disappointing due to how far behind BF2 it was in terms of depth, but it was still good when compared to other shooters on the market right now. If you want to get an idea for how many people are playing, you can go to the this [http://bf3stats.com/] website and check the servers for your particular version. As of right now, it looks like the PC version still has plenty of players with both the 360 and PS3 versions having enough people to easily find a game.

Personally, I would take the $5 deal. That's an incredibly low amount for how good the game is.

However, I will BF4 is 50% off on Origin right now (if you're on PC). Regardless of the problems it has had, they'll inevitably be fixed (based on DICE's history), and $30 is probably a decent price for the state of the game right now.
 

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Shadow-Phoenix said:
i played BF3 back when it came out in 2011 but stopped after a few months once they allowed kids to rent servers and ban people from them when they imposed silly childish rules and then I just couldn't play the game anymore and wasn't willing to fork over another £40 for DLC maps that were months away from release.
Yeah, that server rental shit was kind of stupid. I was banned from one server 7 times because, and I quote, "I was abusing the admin in game." Yes, because shooting someone in a FPS is abusing him.

Then there was the server where there was no C4 and all the admin did was camp.
With C4.
In a container.

He apparently didn't like me killing him with C4 and a DAO 12. :p

OT: Get BF3, it's going to have some people still playing it. BF4 is just...so, so broken.
 

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Battlefield 3 is better in my opinion. Believe it or not the graphics are better, maps are better, and is an overall better game. Battlefield 4 is still a buggy mess with textures still in low quality when you first look at them and the maps are kinda shitty.
 

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You should wait for Battlefield 2 to go on sale. Then you can install and play Project Reality, which is better than both Battlefield 3 and 4.
 

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chocolatekeith said:
You should wait for Battlefield 2 to go on sale. Then you can install and play Project Reality, which is better than both Battlefield 3 and 4.
Actually, Battlefield 2 is on sale right now on Origin. Still, I would have a hard time advising anyone to pick it up now, even if it is arguably the best online shooter ever made. As far as I know, the game has trouble holding a handful of servers with a large player base, and Project Reality is even worse. Sure, there are still games, but BF2 is really near the end of its lifetime and has far passed its prime. Unfortunately, it might just be waste to get in at this point, no matter how much better than BF3&4 it is.
 

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Having played both for quite a bit now, let me tell you my thoughts, assuming you've at least played an earlier Battlefield like Bad Company 1 & 2. I think the Bad Company games might be better stepping stones into this game series than BF3 or BF4, but I have no idea how populated either Bad Company is.

Well, for $5 on big recently released game like BF3, it's hard to go wrong anyway.

Reasons for Battlefield 4:

BF4 has FANTASTIC weapon balance compared to BF3. In BF3, easily 60% of all deaths were the wonderful trinity of AEK-971, M16A3, and M416. Despite everyone's cries that the ACE 23, M416, and AEK-971 are the new god guns, the balance is so much better. You have more incentive to use more weapons with different attachments for all sorts of scenarios, instead running the same gun, all the time, every match, every game mode, all ranges, same attachments.

Next, customization is better. Much better than Kobra-Heavy Barrel-Foregrip 4lyf in BF3. A very nice arrangement of different grips and optics to use. Camouflage, while flipping useless, has a big library and isn't restricted to Premium.

Map design is noticeably improved and there's a map for every preferred play style. If you like tanking go on Golmund Railway, if you like close quarters go on Flood Zone, if you like watercraft go on Paracel Storm. All of the maps are pretty great at keeping the games moving and the rounds play out different, unlike certain maps (notoriously Metro, Tehran Highway, or Damavand Peak) where there were designated choke points that every game just halted at.

The campaign is just okay. Not terrible, pretty playable and memorable, but it was just okay.

And there's Obliteration. Imagine the close knit attack-defend of Rush, using the scale of Conquest. I think it really is Battlefield at its finest, it's almost as good as Rush is.

Most importantly, gunplay is just so fluent and responsive and fantastic. You're going to hop into that game and immediately feel that everything is just so smooth and feels right. The flaws in the game don't spawn from the gunplay, the gunplay is going to be VERY hard to top at this point.

Class balance is better, though still slanted toward Assault. Recon isn't a useless piece of garbage, Engineer has a huge amount of focus around him.

For Battlefield 3:

Obviously an advantage of the game being out two and a half years later is that a majority of bugs, imbalances, and exploits have been fixed and vanished from everyone's mind.

The point above is especially notable for having better "netcode" or "tickrate" than BF4. Something like this. That happens ALL THE TIME in BF4, it has gotten better recently and patches are still on the way, or you could stick with BF3 where this happens pretty much never. Yeah, it stinks in BF4, this is the hugest reason why people think BF4 is a buggy-ass mess.

Teamwork, I think, is more apparent in BF3 with you constantly being helped out by revives and people always resupplying you. Though BF3 on PC has no voice chat, so how far can that teamwork really reach?

I should say, though, that BF3 and BF4 are pretty stonking similar. I think, besides the "netcode" issue, BF4 mostly os better than BF3 in the tiny ways, but the "netcode" issue in BF4 is, you know, gamebreaking...
 

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I've been playing BF3 almost since it came out, and I've played BF4 for a few months.

In my opinion, BF3 is a better game than BF4.
- The map design is better in BF3. In BF4 I find that a lot of maps don't seem to know what they want. Why put in 2 APCs per team in a map where all the combat is on rooftops? I also find that although BF4 has "levolution", BF3 has more minor destruction. Too many maps in BF4 encourage rooftop camping.
- Vehicle combat is better in BF3, although you have less viable unlocks. I've got roughly 300 hours in tanks and APCs - I find the ground vehicles in BF4 so lacking it was one of the main reasons I switched back to BF3. Some things that stood out:
? No thick IR smoke that obscures vision. Good drivers used this not only to break locks but also to confuse enemies and hide their position. No longer possible in Bf4. Likewise, Reactive Armor is gone in the way it used to work. It was one of the things that made a good tank driver stand out above a mediocre one.
? Enemy and friendly mines are infuriating hard to spot in BF4. I've had more mine-related-deads in BF4 in these 2 months than in 2 years of BF3.
? Almost every second AT weapon in BF4 is a lock-on device.
? Main Battle Tank shells drop far to quickly, making long-range engagements much harder than they should be.
? The big minimap that one could toggle is gone. In BF3, pressing M results in a 200% larger minimap, making it easier to see for me on a large resolution. In BF4, pressing M makes a map cover the entire screen, making it useless to use in combat.
- It's more difficult to "read" classes in BF4. I find it hard to see if the infantry I'm engaging if an assault, recon, support or engineer.
- The Mobile Anti Air tank is a god on wheels. Although I hated the jet superiority of BF3 (Jets are OP in BF3), the insane buff that the MAA tank has gotten in BF4 is no better.
- Commander mode that was added in BF4 isn't really all that exciting to play.
 

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I'd say BF4 is what BF3 should have been. It also goes a good middle way of implementing previous features that have been missing or swapped in BC2/BF3. Examples:
Commander mode is back.
Both recon and support can aquire C4 (was only for recon in BC2 and support only in BF3)
Engineer and recon have additional weapon classes, carbine and DMR, that once unlocked can be used freely by other classes. This in addition to shotgun gives you 4 usable weapon classes per class. In total: Assault rifles, Light Machine Guns, Sniper Rifles, Personal Defence Weapons, Carbines, Designated Marksman Rifles, Shotguns, Pistols, Gadget/AT.
Weapon class unlocks and class unlocks are separate. You mainly unlock weapons by using that specific weapon class, while you unlock mostly gadgets with your class.
Your two gadget slots can use any combination (unless marked red), instead of only using certain gadgets in slot 1, and certain gadgets in slot 2.
Each weapon has lots of attachments, which are earned per weapon. Most attachments are available in US, Russian and Chinese variants, if you prefer one country's aesthetics over another.
More variety in how you obtain unlocks, some through class progress, others from battlepacks, or from completing certain objectives.
Generally summed up: More freedom for class customisation.

Other features:
More vertical maps. Most buildings and sniper nests have elevators now, so you can sneak up on those pesky bastards.
Water is more than just an obstacle. You can swim underwater, waves can be used as visual cover, also basic use of sidearm or gadgets.
Levolution, sometimes cool, other times useless, but there's also more world interaction, you can close and open doors, activate traps and so forth.
You get bonus points for trying but failing, like: "Assist counts as kill" is a nice addition if you're that guy who always lowers enemies health to 5% before a teammate steals the kill. You get points for doing objectives a certain percentage (if you only armed an objective 65%), you still get points for the effort. This gives at least some reward and that kick to keep you playing, instead of failing at 90% again and again, and not getting any reward at all.
I probably have some more, but I've forgotten them right now.

"Bad" points:
Anti-Air is actually Anti-Everything. Combat boats are also slightly OP.
"Net-Code", personally I haven't noticed much of this. But everyone seems to be screaming it all the time.
Although there are lots of new weapons, some previous weapons have disappeared, and will most likely be re-featured in future DLC as "Brand new weapons" or "Old player favourites".

The core gameplay is mostly the same, but they've revamped and rebalanced a lot of the way classes and weapons work. Also added a lot of things that felt like they were missing in BF3.