Battlefield 3 Will Require Origin

[Strazdas]

"Steam doesn't update EA games like we want them to so... No Battlefield. We promise! It's about updates!"

Days later. Battlefield requires Origin.
Fuck it. I'm playing it on my Xbox.

And many, MANY games require Steam. Everything bad people are going to say about this Valve has already done a long time ago.

So? just because one idiotic service done it earlier does not make it any better.

As for learning form others mistakes, well, its EA, you dont honestly think they can learn anything do you?

 

[manythings]

"Steam doesn't update EA games like we want them to so... No Battlefield. We promise! It's about updates!"

Days later. Battlefield requires Origin.
Fuck it. I'm playing it on my Xbox.

And many, MANY games require Steam. Everything bad people are going to say about this Valve has already done a long time ago.

So? just because one idiotic service done it earlier does not make it any better.

As for learning form others mistakes, well, its EA, you dont honestly think they can learn anything do you?

Uhh... I would suggest you work on your reading comprehension. My point was that people are having shit fits about this NOW when they accepted it without question the best part of a decade ago because, just like you, they hate a Logo not the change.

 

[Vonnis]

From what I've read about Origin so far, this is an excellent reason for me to not get the game.

 

[BoredRolePlayer]

Just wanna say all those who defended EA when they said it was Valves fault for dragon age two from being pulled....HAHA. How does it feel to trust a company who is trying to get fans to jump ship?

 

[xDarc]

I'm not too crazy about these online services. For a long time, I just avoided Steam games. Then I finally wanted to try Left 4 Dead. The 2006 decline in gaming left little worth playing.

I still felt like I was forced into it and I still don't like it.

I have only activated 4 games on steam since 08', and 3 of those I bought in a store.

It still feels intrusive and I turn it off when not playing.

 

[Bebus]

There goes my Battlefield sale. There is only 1 game I will possibly tolerate Origin for, and that is ME3. As Mass Effect is a single player game, this would be the biggest dick move in history and I would happily see EA crippled by pirating for such a move.

I do not have a problem with EA, much. Sure they are money grabbing parasites, but that's capitalism. I have a problem with Origin. It is badly designed, plays havoc with my PC's ability to run games cleanly and I have yet to have a positive (or even neutral) experience with it. It has been one long string of bad design and trying to work a way around it.

Worst example? My girlfriend decided to get a Sims expansion. She has several through EA's old digital distribution and had absolutely no problem. Then Origin came out. The DLC bought and downloaded through Origin wiped out all of her saved games (she spends a lot of time on Sims while I play other games) and has caused dozens of ingame issues. Origin will never get a good word with her again.

I use and enjoy Steam. Why? I don't notice it. I run Steam, my computer does not notice, and playing games (even non-Steam) games through it gives me a whole host of features I would not have otherwise, but it never, ever intrudes upon my playing. I choose to use the features. EA has yet to catch on to the fact that people hate only having one option.

And people saying Steam deserves competition: yes it does. But what Origin is doing is not competing. It is monopolising.

 

[matrix3509]

AHAHAHAHAHA! Oh man, Battlefield fanboys are just getting ass raped so hard. I so hope MW3 and BF3 kill this stupid goddamn genre.

 

[brainslurper]

And I almost bought this game.

 

[brainslurper]

There goes my Battlefield sale. There is only 1 game I will possibly tolerate Origin for, and that is ME3. As Mass Effect is a single player game, this would be the biggest dick move in history and I would happily see EA crippled by pirating for such a move.

I do not have a problem with EA, much. Sure they are money grabbing parasites, but that's capitalism. I have a problem with Origin. It is badly designed, plays havoc with my PC's ability to run games cleanly and I have yet to have a positive (or even neutral) experience with it. It has been one long string of bad design and trying to work a way around it.

Worst example? My girlfriend decided to get a Sims expansion. She has several through EA's old digital distribution and had absolutely no problem. Then Origin came out. The DLC bought and downloaded through Origin wiped out all of her saved games (she spends a lot of time on Sims while I play other games) and has caused dozens of ingame issues. Origin will never get a good word with her again.

I use and enjoy Steam. Why? I don't notice it. I run Steam, my computer does not notice, and playing games (even non-Steam) games through it gives me a whole host of features I would not have otherwise, but it never, ever intrudes upon my playing. I choose to use the features. EA has yet to catch on to the fact that people hate only having one option.

And people saying Steam deserves competition: yes it does. But what Origin is doing is not competing. It is monopolising.

More like face planting. It should have been obvious that nobody wants an entire application running to play like 5 games, by one developer.

 

[thebobmaster_v1legacy]

This makes me care even less than when they said no Battlefield 3 on Steam. Now I officially give 0 fucks whatsoever about this game because I am not giving half of my hard drive to EA's service...I already have to deal with Steam in the background for Christ's sake.

you just made a Fairly Oddparents reference. I want to have your kids. OR the other way around. Even if it's not compatible.

On-topic, I use a laptop that is about powerful enough to run WoW and Half-Life 2. I wasn't going to get Battlefield 3 on PC even if I was interested.

 

[Ziggy]

"Steam doesn't update EA games like we want them to so... No Battlefield. We promise! It's about updates!"

Days later. Battlefield requires Origin.
Fuck it. I'm playing it on my Xbox.

And many, MANY games require Steam. Everything bad people are going to say about this Valve has already done a long time ago.

So? just because one idiotic service done it earlier does not make it any better.

As for learning form others mistakes, well, its EA, you dont honestly think they can learn anything do you?

Uhh... I would suggest you work on your reading comprehension. My point was that people are having shit fits about this NOW when they accepted it without question the best part of a decade ago because, just like you, they hate a Logo not the change.

Do you watch the jimquisition. yes? no? maby? Last monday he talked about "The Past Is Not The Future" here let me give you a link http://www.escapistmagazine.com/videos/view/jimquisition/3827-The-Past-Is-Not-The-Future

 

[migo]

Yeah, about the prices, retailer do that too,

He was doing it too wasn't an acceptable excuse in elementary school, and it isn't in business either.

and this is not only a issue with videogames, almost everything that gets imported from overseas gets its prices adjusted this way.

There's no such thing as importing with digital content delivery.

I don't understand why people complain that their games don't work on steam.. most of the time it's the publishers/developers fault,

No, it's Steam's fault because the non-Steam version works fine, and the non-Steam version has updates that patch the system.

since they are responsible for the game and programing a workable version for steam.

Only because Steam passes the buck and pretends it's not their responsibility despite the fact that they're the ones that require it to be different.

If my car stops to work, do I ask the car-dealer why it has stopped or the manufacturer?

If the car dealer has modified the engine so it only works with a certain type of gas, you ask the car-dealer.

Again, steam isn't perfect and non of the above either.(i.e. Gamersgate charges more for their indi-games, at least for the one I looked up/bought, gog doesn't even has any indi-games) Beside that, steam has not only special holiday sales, weekend sales and midweek sales, it also has daily offers.

They daily offers aren't anywhere near as good as GG.

Yeah, but that is the point, it's not really that I dislike origin, the issue is EA...I don't trust them, I don't like them, EA(not origin) if they want to change that fact they need to change their policy. And I'm sure I'm not the only one, who thinks that way.

If you distrust EA but think Valve is OK, your head isn't screwed on right.

No, the issue still stands, if you think your thought further.. soon every major developer will have their own download platform, and every game will be exclusive for their own platform (Steam isn't the only one that suffers from this, Dragon Age II for example isn't available on Gamersgate and impulse has it region-locked, which is another issue...).

If it gets too fragmented and it ends up being a real problem that way, then they'll have to look at playing nice with each other, and they'll have to start looking at having a competitive edge for their platforms, which will be consumer friendliness.

No developer should have their own platform, they could sell their own games online, but I should be able to activate it on any-platform I want.

Ideally yeah, but we'll never hit that point until Steam gets some serious competition.

But what about people that support origin but complain about steam? Everyone has their reasons, my is, I trust steam and especially Valve in this case, all my games I brought from them work 100%, not like a few EA games I own.

Valve games work fine on Steam, non-Valve games don't. EA games work fine on Origin. No difference there, and EA is at least doing the responsible thing - after having too many problems with Steam and having to fix Valve's mess, they're protecting their customers from having to deal with it any further.

 

[migo]

From what I've read about Origin so far, this is an excellent reason for me to not get the game.

You shouldn't trust those sources. I don't know what you read, but based on my own experience using Origin it's definitely wrong.

 

[deckai]

He was doing it too wasn't an acceptable excuse in elementary school, and it isn't in business either.

But it's ok to point out a flaws, that everyone has? Yeah, great argument..

There's no such thing as importing with digital content delivery.

Yes there is, not in a literal sense, but you can't blame steam for it, blame the big big publisher for it, there were a few publisher that denied their games outside the USA if the prices were connected to the us-dollar-Exchange rate. But yeah, it's easier do blame steam right?

No, it's Steam's fault because the non-Steam version works fine, and the non-Steam version has updates that patch the system.

Only because Steam passes the buck and pretends it's not their responsibility despite the fact that they're the ones that require it to be different.


If the car dealer has modified the engine so it only works with a certain type of gas, you ask the car-dealer.

Steam doesn't make the changes(not the dealer does the changes.. the manufacturer does), the developer is responsible for them, and if the majority is able to modify their own games to be fully-functional, why shouldn't we blame them?

They daily offers aren't anywhere near as good as GG.

That is a 100% matter of taste and right now you are just grasping at straws.

If you distrust EA but think Valve is OK, your head isn't screwed on right.

Thanks for giving me a reason to put you on my ignore list, but for the sake of arguing, I will at least finish this post.

If it gets too fragmented and it ends up being a real problem that way, then they'll have to look at playing nice with each other, and they'll have to start looking at having a competitive edge for their platforms, which will be consumer friendliness.

Ideally yeah, but we'll never hit that point until Steam gets some serious competition.

One easy solution would be, splitting Valve and Steam, making steam an independent company.

Valve games work fine on Steam, non-Valve games don't. EA games work fine on Origin. No difference there, and EA is at least doing the responsible thing - after having too many problems with Steam and having to fix Valve's mess, they're protecting their customers from having to deal with it any further.

I have right now 49 games on steam, 7 of them, developed by valve, 2 by EA. And every single one is working perfectly fine, and do you really think Steam would be so successful if their games wouldn't work? But hey if you want to believe the lies that EA is giving, good for you, it's your decision.

And now, have a nice life, and welcome to my ignore-list.

 

[migo]

But it's ok to point out a flaws, that everyone has? Yeah, great argument..

A lot of people here and elswhere are under the deeply flawed impression that Steam is perfect and that only Origin has problems. I'm setting them straight.

Yes there is, not in a literal sense, but you can't blame steam for it, blame the big big publisher for it, there were a few publisher that denied their games outside the USA if the prices were connected to the us-dollar-Exchange rate. But yeah, it's easier do blame steam right?

Since they do it for games like Left 4 Dead and Team Fortress 2, which are Valve games, it's Steam's fault. If they were only doing it for certain publishers, and others got the right exchange rate, your argument would be acceptable it. It isn't.

Steam doesn't make the changes(not the dealer does the changes.. the manufacturer does), the developer is responsible for them, and if the majority is able to modify their own games to be fully-functional, why shouldn't we blame them?

Steam requires the changes. Same thing in the end. It's like cell phone carriers requiring firmware changes to models they carry - they're then responsible for supporting them, not the manufacturer. The majority isn't able to modify their own games to be fully functional, because they end up not being updated. It's Steam's fault for requiring the changes, and making it difficult to deliver updates (likely because they want to force devs to use Steamworks so that users are locked in with Steam).

That is a 100% matter of taste and right now you are just grasping at straws.

Find games every day at $2.50, down from $10, isn't a matter of taste, it's objective fact. You rarely see Steam sales going that low.

Thanks for giving me a reason to put you on my ignore list, but for the sake of arguing, I will at least finish this post.

The sake of arguing is the only reason you're even doing this, there's no good reason to be defending Steam.

One easy solution would be, splitting Valve and Steam, making steam an independent company.

Would be pointless, Valve hardly makes games anymore, they let the modder community make them and then buys them up.

I have right now 49 games on steam, 7 of them, developed by valve, 2 by EA. And every single one is working perfectly fine, and do you really think Steam would be so successful if their games wouldn't work? But hey if you want to believe the lies that EA is giving, good for you, it's your decision.

It's not lies, it's based on first hand experience relayed to me by disgruntled Steam users and how EA's reasoning is 100% consistent with it. Steam is successful because you can't ask for a refund, because they won't give one, and you can't dispute the charges with a credit card company, because then Valve will ban you for all your games, so you're stuck with them and just have to grin and bare it. They've got a monopoly on mindhsare and they've got a lock in with very unfriendly practices. That's why they're successful, because, like Activision, they're total dicks.
And now, have a nice life, and welcome to my ignore-list.[/quote]

 

[dmcc85]

thank god , i read this article.
now i will not buy "battlefield 3" for as long as "origin" is required to play.
so eventually never, but that is not so bad for me since i never really wanted to buy that game whatsoever. but this fact of origin beeing required strengthens my decission even more.

 

[Ickorus]

I really liked the look of Battlefield 3 too, looks like i'll have to do without.

EA really ballsed this one up big time.

 

[BoredRolePlayer]

I do understand when people say Steam and Origin are the same, both require you to use their software. But Steam doesn't seem like it's a pain in the butt and works well with my games, and doesn't even slow down my POS laptop. That since EA pulled one of their big name games to push Origin I can't support that. You were fine with everyone playing via steam but now origin is ready you pull it and lie from my understanding.

 

[DjinnFor]

My point was that people are having shit fits about this NOW when they accepted it without question the best part of a decade ago because, just like you, they hate a Logo not the change.

...And that's wrong, how exactly? People like Steam because it's well-established and useful and the company that made it is trustworthy and responsive to customers, and hate Origin because it's buggy and (almost) completely useless, and the company that made it is a renowned money-grubbing whore.

People hating EA is precisely the problem here. And don't pretend like people weren't a little miffed when Steam used the same strategy, because there were quite a few complaints and dissent. But most people recognized that not only is Valve a good publisher/developer, but that Steam could eventually grow into something useful and popular. And now that we have a useful and popular one, people should be miffed when a company that was formerly the king of douchebaggery in the industry tries to promote its own to try and compete by forcing people who want to buy its products to use an alternate client.