Battlefield: Bad Company 2 - Vietnam

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Mistermixmaster

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Timbydude said:
Regardless of whether or not they did Vietnam in a previous entry, it has absolutely no place in the Bad Company subseries, which is supposed to take place in a modern setting. And...the thing about gameplay just doesn't make sense.
'Scuse me if I'm wrong, but I believe Bad Company 2 also had a WW2 part? >_> And didn't they also announce this like way back in August or something? Y'know, BEFORE we actually knew much about CoD: BlOps?

Sorry, if I come across a bit harsh...
 

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Suki the Cat said:
Excuse me?

I'm not a fan of pay-for DLC and I won't be getting it, as I'm not a big BC2 fan either, but act of desperation?

I seem to recall a game called "Battlefield: Vietnam", which is pretty good and old by now. Going back to the old roots seems like a good idea right about now, too bad that the general idea of how a console FPS should be have tainted the previously PC-exclusive Battlefield series into becoming something it should never have been.

The Bad Company games aren't bad, they are just too much like CoD and any other console game out there. I want the big tasty maps back, the multi-player games with room for 64 people, proper vehicles, helicopters and aircraft. Not to mention getting my prone button back, damn it!

And I'm not at all suprised they are doing this. They do just as Medal of Honor did, and what they did before with Bad Company and indeed Bad Company 2 too, whom this DLC is for. They copy CoD, because people buy CoD, and they buy it like the stuff was needed for them to be able to breathe. Of course they copy CoD, CoD makes money like nothing else these days!
Just to clarify I hole heartedly agree with everything but the copying CoD part.

Maybe iam miss-interpriting what you put but you get alot more than a map pack and they probly could have released this as a stand alone DL title like 1943. The reason BC2 is alot easyer its due to people moaning about the amount of bullets it took to kill people even though I liked it ment people had to aim rather than spray.
 

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While i would have prefered a remake of 2142, i will still buy it, because i love the gameplay in Bad Company 2, comparing it to cod is like comparing cat fish to jellyfish, they're just too different.
 

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Well i did a stupid thing >.<
I bought it as soon as i saw it on steam but much to my dismay found out it's not standalone.
i bought the retail version of BFBC2 so that's completely useless to me...
hopefully Valve will refund it... >.<
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Daedalus1942 said:
Well i did a stupid thing >.<
I bought it as soon as i saw it on steam but much to my dismay found out it's not standalone.
i bought the retail version of BFBC2 so that's completely useless to me...
hopefully Valve will refund it... >.<
-Tabs<3-
Retail version, you mean you have BFBC2 that you bought in a store? If so, it doesn't matter, just add it into Steam.

edit: if you're not sure how, just open Steam, go Games > Activate a Product on Steam
 

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Reading others comments, I realize I must be very different in opinion than most others. When I play these two games, they feel almost the same. I can't see nor feel these differences that your talking about, not at all. So whats causing me to have the opinion that these games are quite similar, I guess is because I experience them in a different way that the rest of you do.

I'll also say this: I don't have a console. I've played the console-exclusives at friends consoles, all games that are for PC I've played for the PC.

Khaun said:
Just to clarify I hole heartedly agree with everything but the copying CoD part.

Maybe iam miss-interpriting what you put but you get alot more than a map pack and they probly could have released this as a stand alone DL title like 1943. The reason BC2 is alot easyer its due to people moaning about the amount of bullets it took to kill people even though I liked it ment people had to aim rather than spray.
I guess so, but it still doesn't make me want to pay for it. I'm among those who didn't want to buy the expansions for 2142 and 2, just waited patiently for them to become available for free. Good content and all, but in my opinion not something I'd want to spend money on beyond what I've already played for the original game.

The little-damage thing doesn't really cause people to have to aim more, well maybe in the console world. But if you remember how the previous Battlefield games have done it, firing your weapon on fully automatic was a complete no-no on most distances. Semi-auto and a few well-placed shots would win the battle, much more realistic rather than the "empty 30 rounds down there and hope he drops dead".
 

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Timbydude said:
No, this isn't a joke. It's a real expansion for Bad Company 2 that's coming out in December.

I hate to say it, but it's very hard to make the argument that this game isn't trying to be Call of Duty right now. I enjoyed both Bad Company games, but...really? Did they think no one would notice?

In case you don't understand what I'm implying, I'd like to point out that BC2 is a modern game; it takes place entirely in the present day (or a fictional representation of it). To make a game centered on Vietnam just after the release of a Call of Duty game that was (for a large portion) set in Vietnam seems almost like an act of desperation. It also seems strange considering the decidedly modern setting of the Bad Company subseries.

I love DICE's games and I have no doubt that the game will be fun; I'm just surprised that they're so blatantly ripping off Black Ops.

What do you think about this?

Sources:

http://www.joystiq.com/2010/11/30/battlefield-bad-company-2-vietnam-strikes-dec-21-vip-map-pack/

http://www.battlefieldbadcompany2.com

http://store.steampowered.com/app/47880/
Are you kidding me to say that they're copying Black Ops?.

You know about Battlefield: Vietnam a game made by DICE years ago. DICE remade BF 1942 as BF 1943, there is no reason that they should not remake BF : Vietnam even just as an expansion pack.

And strange timing you say? It's the holidays everyone is releasing their game now, why does it suspicious
 

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Suki the Cat said:
Reading others comments, I realize I must be very different in opinion than most others. When I play these two games, they feel almost the same. I can't see nor feel these differences that your talking about, not at all. So whats causing me to have the opinion that these games are quite similar, I guess is because I experience them in a different way that the rest of you do.

I'll also say this: I don't have a console. I've played the console-exclusives at friends consoles, all games that are for PC I've played for the PC.

Khaun said:
Just to clarify I hole heartedly agree with everything but the copying CoD part.

Maybe iam miss-interpriting what you put but you get alot more than a map pack and they probly could have released this as a stand alone DL title like 1943. The reason BC2 is alot easyer its due to people moaning about the amount of bullets it took to kill people even though I liked it ment people had to aim rather than spray.
I guess so, but it still doesn't make me want to pay for it. I'm among those who didn't want to buy the expansions for 2142 and 2, just waited patiently for them to become available for free. Good content and all, but in my opinion not something I'd want to spend money on beyond what I've already played for the original game.

The little-damage thing doesn't really cause people to have to aim more, well maybe in the console world. But if you remember how the previous Battlefield games have done it, firing your weapon on fully automatic was a complete no-no on most distances. Semi-auto and a few well-placed shots would win the battle, much more realistic rather than the "empty 30 rounds down there and hope he drops dead".
Yeh very true its just a shame there really isnt any recoil in the new BC games i dont want anything mad like when you fire an MG with out deploying it in DoD but some would be nice hopefully BF 3 will be a full on Battlefield game as i miss nose diving in jets and barrel rolling in helicopters.
 

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Medal of Honor was the CoD rip off. This expansion was announced BEFORE Black Ops as far as I'm aware, or at the very least at the same time.

This was just DICE transferring their new game engine to a new setting. BC2 has a lot of flaws, but it's still so much better than CoD that it's insulting to compare them.
 

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Yeah, I just saw this on steam. I laughed. They should have chosen the korean war. Far more relevant now
 
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They announced this months ago, do you not believe in coincidences?...it's not even like "we got a level in vietnam!" was Black Ops selling point, it was just one mission.

I miss Vietcong, that game was cool. It was almost unplayable without a patch, but that's not the point.
 

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Wait... Battlefield: Bad Company 2 Vietnam? Does this mean its set in the same time period as BFBC2 in Vietnam? Or is it set during the Vietnam war?
 

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Rather like to think they are giving their valued customers the vietnam setting they wouldn't likewise have if they hadn't bought CodBlOps. Nothing like thumbing your noses at the sheep that buys everything COD related at this point.

Unfortunately, i'll probably stay away from this expansion. I don't see it as adding much to my experience in BFBC2. All of my game mates are buying this, at the same time they call CoD players sheep they don't seem to realize they are just as much so to BF series XD

Wish more ppl can just look from the outside in. Lemme know when DICE decides to release a GOOD PC Battlefield again. (Miss driving a battleship with 9 - 16" guns t.t)
 

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Vrach said:
Daedalus1942 said:
Well i did a stupid thing >.<
I bought it as soon as i saw it on steam but much to my dismay found out it's not standalone.
i bought the retail version of BFBC2 so that's completely useless to me...
hopefully Valve will refund it... >.<
-Tabs<3-
Retail version, you mean you have BFBC2 that you bought in a store? If so, it doesn't matter, just add it into Steam.

edit: if you're not sure how, just open Steam, go Games > Activate a Product on Steam
I tried that...
the key is invalid apparently?
-Tabs<3-
 

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Caliostro said:
Medal of Honor was the CoD rip off. This expansion was announced BEFORE Black Ops as far as I'm aware, or at the very least at the same time.

This was just DICE transferring their new game engine to a new setting. BC2 has a lot of flaws, but it's still so much better than CoD that it's insulting to compare them.
No, I am not saying they copied anything but Black Ops was announced before the expansion.
 

Vrach

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Daedalus1942 said:
Vrach said:
Daedalus1942 said:
Well i did a stupid thing >.<
I bought it as soon as i saw it on steam but much to my dismay found out it's not standalone.
i bought the retail version of BFBC2 so that's completely useless to me...
hopefully Valve will refund it... >.<
-Tabs<3-
Retail version, you mean you have BFBC2 that you bought in a store? If so, it doesn't matter, just add it into Steam.

edit: if you're not sure how, just open Steam, go Games > Activate a Product on Steam
I tried that...
the key is invalid apparently?
-Tabs<3-
Tried "Add a non-Steam game to my library"?
 

Daedalus1942

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i can do that but it still won't actualy add the game onto my steam account. The steam version of vietnam won't wrk with retail.
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Vrach

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Yeah just looked it up, seems it is indeed a problem - I'd suggest posting on Steam forums or sending a mail to them, they might patch it up still or at least give you your money back.

PS
If you get the money back, just buy it from the EA's site, they're doing the pre-order thing as well.


See next post:
 

Vrach

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(Excuse the double post, but I want to quote for notification)

Daedalus1942 said:
i can do that but it still won't actualy add the game onto my steam account. The steam version of vietnam won't wrk with retail.
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Ok, just checked over at Steam forums:
http://forums.steampowered.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1623965

To quote:
Q: "I have the retail (non-steam) version of Battlefield Bad Company 2. If I bought the DLC from steam, would I be able to play it?"
A: "It says on the steam purchase page they give you a code to put into your EA account. You are just buying a code from Steam. It doesnt matter where the game is from. "

Vietnam content is actually downloaded straight away, it's not downloaded through Steam. It's basically already there, you got it in the latest patch (something people who aren't getting Vietnam aren't happy about because they have to go through a 2GB pointless download, but that's another matter), the code you get from Steam merely "unlocks" it for play. So ya, just head on over to EA's site and activate it there. See Steam forums on Battlefield series (http://forums.steampowered.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=733) if you're not sure how to do it, there are supposedly several threads on the matter already :)