BBC: Breaking News: Nasa scientists say they have found evidence for liquid water on Mars

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Edit: http://news.discovery.com/space/mars-salt-water-surface-110804.html
http://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/MRO/news/mro20110804.html
http://www.nasa.gov/multimedia/nasatv/index.html (Video)
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-14408928

Mars: Nasa images show signs of flowing water

Striking new images from the mountains of Mars may be the best evidence yet of flowing, liquid water, an essential ingredient for life.

The findings, reported today in the journal Science, come from a joint US-Swiss study.

A sequence of images from the Mars Reconnaissance Orbiter show many long, dark "tendrils" a few metres wide.

They emerge between rocky outcrops and flow hundreds of metres down steep slopes towards the plains below.

They appear on hillsides warmed by the summer sun, flow around obstacles and sometimes split or merge, but when winter returns, the tendrils fade away.

This suggests that they are made of thawing mud, say the researchers.

"It's hard to imagine they are formed by anything other than fluid seeping down slopes," said Mars Reconnaissance Orbiter Project Scientist Richard Zurek of Nasa's Jet Propulsion Laboratory, but they appear when it's still too cold for fresh water.
Salty water

"The best explanation we have for these observations so far is flow of briny water, although this study does not prove that," said planetary geologist and lead author Professor Alfred McEwen of the Lunar and Planetary Laboratory, University of Arizona.

Saltiness lowers the temperature at which water freezes, and water about as salty as Earth's oceans could exist at these sites in summer.

"This could be the first flowing water," said Professor McEwen. This has profound implications in the search for extraterrestrial life.

"Liquid water is absolutely essential for life, and we've found life on Earth in pretty much every moist niche," said Dr Lewis Dartnell, astrobiologist at University College London, who was not involved in the study.

"So perhaps there could be hardy microbes surviving in these short periods of summer meltwater on the desert surface of Mars."

This was echoed by an expert on life in extreme environments, Professor Shiladitya DasSarma of the University of Maryland, also not involved in this study: "Their results are consistent with the presence of large and extensive underground salty lakes on Mars."

"This is an exciting possibility for those of us studying salt-loving (halophilic) micro-organisms here on Earth, since it opens the possibility that these kinds of hearty bugs may also inhabit our neighbouring planet," he said.

"Halophilic microbes are champions at withstanding the most punishing conditions, complete desiccation and ionising (space) radiation."

For geologist Joe Levy of Portland State University, a specialist in Antarctic desert ecosystems, who did not contribute to this work, they represent "a truly tantalising astrobiological target".

These small and mysterious tendrils could then be the best place to look for Martian life. Professor McEwen says that "for present-day life, these are the most accessible sites".
Edit 2: I wish the escapist posting system was less bare bones.
 

Giest4life

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You have my attention. *Goes looking for sources*

EDIT: Found Source [http://news.discovery.com/space/mars-salt-water-surface-110804.html]!
 

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News article on the NASA website
http://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/MRO/news/mro20110804.html

Live coverage! With a video!
http://www.nasa.gov/multimedia/nasatv/index.html

BBC News article
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-14408928
 

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what are we waiting for? lets get up there and start wrecking that place too!
 

Gwarr

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Ofc , server failed me and I double posted . Please delete this and sorry for this mods!
 

Gwarr

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I still think our vision of life is too limited . Why does life need the exact atmosphere and climate as Earth>? Cause all life on this planet needs those conditions?(which is not true btw , they found a bacteria which can live in acid . Yes , acid). I wouldn't be so surprised we could find life ( Don't think human-like creatures , but bacteria , on much more hostile planets. We could even find giants on planets with ten times or more our atmospheric pressure . Don't take my word on this , I am in no way a specialist . I am just a student of Computer Science with a passion for planets , solar systems and science in general ( and games ofc ).

PS:Would love if someone could point out WHY we consider life ONLY exists when we have the situation as we have it on Earth.
 

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manythings said:
Maybe I'm having a deja vu but didn't this already happen?
That was solid water, liquid water is thought to be the essential ingredient for life as we know it.

This is really cool - it creates a viable environment for some extremophilic organisms to live in. I imagine all the aliens on Mars would go to the seaside for their holiday, so we should keep pointing the telescope in that direction.
 

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what are we waiting for? lets get up there and start wrecking that place too!
Last one there without a flag is a rotten egg!
 

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carlsberg export said:
what are we waiting for? lets get up there and start wrecking that place too!
My suitcase is already packed. I got beer and fire, that'll get the job done quickly.
 

Snowalker

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I'm confused, shouldn't we have found this sooner? the rovers should have found this, right?
 

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Gwarr said:
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PS:Would love if someone could point out WHY we consider life ONLY exists when we have the situation as we have it on Earth.
We don't, it's just that it is easier to search for known conditions(carbonic life-forms) - just recently they found these bacteria which are arsenic, and no one thought that such a life-form would exist on earth.
 

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Gwarr said:
I still think our vision of life is too limited . Why does life need the exact atmosphere and climate as Earth>? Cause all life on this planet needs those conditions?(which is not true btw , they found a bacteria which can live in acid . Yes , acid). I wouldn't be so surprised we could find life ( Don't think human-like creatures , but bacteria , on much more hostile planets. We could even find giants on planets with ten times or more our atmospheric pressure . Don't take my word on this , I am in no way a specialist . I am just a student of Computer Science with a passion for planets , solar systems and science in general ( and games ofc ).

PS:Would love if someone could point out WHY we consider life ONLY exists when we have the situation as we have it on Earth.
Familiarity, and very little to prove otherwise. You're right, we've found bacteria in harsh conditions, but most of the time, when you look back through its relatives and history, it originates from water. Don't get me wrong, I completely agree with the possibility that life could exist in harsh environments, but a lot of things could be possible, theres just not enough evidence to warrant a belief that we should look at something other than water.
 

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Snowalker said:
I'm confused, shouldn't we have found this sooner? the rovers should have found this, right?
this is a entire planet man its not like searching a mall lmao.
 

Snowalker

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aba1 said:
Snowalker said:
I'm confused, shouldn't we have found this sooner? the rovers should have found this, right?
this is a entire planet man its not like searching a mall lmao.
And we're talking years not days here man. Don't insult me, I'm aware of what we're talking about. Simply put, that entire mission was to confirm or deny the possibility of life, if I was NASA the first place I would go to do that is the Ice Caps, so I maintain my question, why haven't we found this sooner.