"Be accepting of others views" doesn't apply to racism?

[Lavi]

Innately harmful ideas should be challenged. Simple as that. We need to evolve, not go backwards by murdering one another.

 

[Sephiwind]

You know I find threads about racism funny because at some point someone almost all ways brings up slavery, which leads moslty to talk about white and black racisim. There are so many other cultures out there that are racist to some other cultures for what ever stupid reason. I don't like such-and-such people because they have funny eyes, or these people have a larger nose, or those people speak with a silly accent.

Its in human nature to dislike a person, or a group of people, for one reason or another. As far as I'm concerned as long as your hate of others doesn't lead to a physical effect on them I say beleive in what ever you want becasue honestly nothing I can say to you will probably change your mind. Just like your hate speech won't have any real effect on how much of a douche bag I think you are for hateing people for dumb reasons.

On a side note about slavery. I find it rather funny that white people are all ways made out to be the ultimate evil in slavery in American culture, and espicaly with the whole "Back to Aferica" movement in our early history. Yet no one bothers to bring up the fact that it was the slaves fellow Africans were the ones that sold them to the evil white devils to begin with.

 

[SharPhoe]

kinda like how one of 'em hates it when preachers and christians tell him how great god is (he's an athiest...) but then you take a look at his facebook page (oh god, facebook) and its covered in anti christian slander, what a double standardised prick.

He's one of those people who goes around talking about how much he's sick of Christianity "being shoved down his throat", and yet he most likely would happily war one of those "Imaginary friends are dumb" T-shirts and happily inject his overly bitter two cents into any religion-based conversation, am I right? You're not alone, I know people just like that myself.

 

[lenin_117]

Racism involves a factual inaccuracy as far as I am concerned: that a black man is inherently bound to be less intelligent/stronger bodied/more animalistic than a white man, when statistcs show this simply is not the case.

But as an opinion, what gives a man less right to hold it rather then another one?

I don't respect anyone's opinion when they blindly state something that simply isn't true.
Therefore, if you are wrong, you have less right to an opinion - QED.

So, basically, if their opinion differs to yours, then they don't get the right to hold it. Correct?

 

[lenin_117]

Innately harmful ideas should be challenged. Simple as that. We need to evolve, not go backwards by murdering one another.

Is that even on topic?

 

[Seanchaidh]

Innately harmful ideas should be challenged. Simple as that. We need to evolve, not go backwards by murdering one another.

Is that even on topic?

Topic: "Be accepting of others views" doesn't apply to racism?

I would say so.

 

[lenin_117]

Because it's wrong.

Plain and simple. I understand that society has become so politically correct that, for some, it's difficult anymore to tell what's right and wrong.

But racism is wrong. Just like murder is wrong. And molesting children is wrong. You're hurting someone else for your own benefit. That's wrong.

Racism doesn't mean "hurting someone else for your own benefit". It means racism. You disagree with it. You then do not allow me to hold that belief. Isn't that contradictory?

 

[MajoraPersona]

Since racism is making a round on the forums, I figure I may as well throw this in. When people say they are open minded and don't try to force their opinions on others, this usually doesn't include racism. If you went to work (or whatever your daily grind is) tomorrow and said openly that you hate black people and think they should be made into slaves, there wouldn't be a lot of people who would respond with "While I disagree with your opinion I respect it as your belief". Why is this not included?

I LOVE YOU NOW.

I was once in an english class and the teacher actually mentioned racism specifically as being an exemption to free speech. Flying an airplane or dropping a nuke is an exemption to free speech, in that it involves more explosions than speaking.

The world isn't always nice. I've led a sheltered life, but it's been my understanding that people never agree and that arrogance is a result of boredom (i.e. ME). These two factors have resulted in the modern world being focused on rising above the murder and rape of their ancestors, trying to create a happy little utopia called Earth. But then they fail miserably because people are chaotic little SOB's with a knack for knowing things.

Inter-tribal hatred has always been around. It's a natural instinct. The creation of society has merely amplified this, turning "those guys want our food" into "the Jews are greedy mother****ers who are slowly taking control of our economic system to subvert our great nation." As you can see, the latter is somewhat longer and more specific. This is a result of intelligent thought.

However, that being said, I hate all people equally. That also means I love all people equally. And in the same holes.

 

[ItsAChiaotzu]

Because opinions, as they are, usually can't be considered right or wrong. But saying something like that is just, without a doubt, unequivocally wrong.

To your's and most other people's moral standards, not to the person who said it.

The lack of an objective moral standard renders "right and wrong" meaningless.

 

[lenin_117]

Since racism is making a round on the forums, I figure I may as well throw this in. When people say they are open minded and don't try to force their opinions on others, this usually doesn't include racism. If you went to work (or whatever your daily grind is) tomorrow and said openly that you hate black people and think they should be made into slaves, there wouldn't be a lot of people who would respond with "While I disagree with your opinion I respect it as your belief". Why is this not included?

Whahaha!

I love this sort of thing, and agree entirely. Racism, while wrong in my opinion, is an equally valid point of view. To suppress it is to try to force your mindset on another person, which is unacceptable. Of course, a rational argument against racism is fine, but you can't just condemn someone for their veiws, however wring they are in your opinion

You good sir, are a scholar and a gentleman.

 

[lenin_117]

There's views and then there's deciding that another branch of humanity needs pruning.

Of course, you could also say it is our view to view racism as a bad view, perhaps you could look at it like that?

Deciding that another branch of humanity needs pruning is a view. Also, I say you can have the opinion its a bad view, but you cannot force your opinion on others.

 

[lenin_117]

Because that's not racism, that's slavery?

You- # The point - *. You missed it.

 

[Horizontalvertigo]

Just because a view maybe valid (by saying everyone one has the right to their opinion) doesn't mean its right. If people want to be racist then fine, because in reality we can't change people's minds, that doesn't prevent them from being f*cktards however.

 

[Bloodeye]

Personally the reason I don't accept as a legitimate view is because racism is inherently stupid. Its like if someone tried to convince me that the world is flat. Any view based on ignorance dosn't deserve to be accepted.

 

[lenin_117]

Personally the reason I don't accept as a legitimate view is because racism is inherently stupid. Its like if someone tried to convince me that the world is flat. Any view based on ignorance dosn't deserve to be accepted.

And you would be obligated to help them?

 

[Anomynous 167]

A truely tolerant society would be tolerant of intolerance.

Screw you, that's what I said

Racism is in fact one of the very few incorrect opinions, being that:
1. There is no basis for it other than the racist wants to feel better about himself.
2. It causes violence that has no effect other than terror and death.
3. By definition, it does not exist, and it only exists socially (but it shouldn't).

So, no. It does not because racism is an incorrect opinion.

And again, subconscious racism is more akin to xenophobia and is completely natural. Just keep it inside your head please.

That's a very narrow perception you got thier.
There are more bases for racism than to feel better, for example for protection, and to make your self feel worse.

 

[BarkBark]

In short people generally hold on stronger to a belief that the masses agree on.

During my time in school I constantly hear that we are all equal. (Forget survival
of the fittest) So the people have a strong believe that everyone is equal.