Beaten Dragon Age 2? Thoughts?

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Frotality

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i like what they tried, having it centered around a hub city where you and your party live rather than just gallivanting around the world, and theres alot of potential in that style, but plot was disjointed...the characters were well written, but too subtle to be memorable, and the combat is ruined by all the bloody times more waves of peons spawn from the ether in every fight; it just gets really really really tedious, more so than origins. i enjoyed the refugee to important citizen part, the deep roads and 2nd act finale were great, bu the ending...

i have never seen such a deus ex machina filled ending, and the conflict with the mages was far more black morality than gray which made it impossible to sympathize with either side. first there is meredith...apparently lyrium poisoning now lets you jump 100ft in the air and bring statues to life, which completely ruined any seriousness the fight was trying to present, especially when the freaking spider heads came out. and every freaking mage in the game that isnt your sister is evil; EVERY ONE. every apostate is possessed or just attacks on sight, the ones in the final battle attack you even if your on their side, and orsino decides that his people being attacked is the perfect time to turn into an abomination and attack his own allies. and yes, if hawke is a mage, he/she is the evilest of all no matter how you play them, because hawke is the one who causes all these problems to begin with. that ending makes no sense and then has the gall to be a cliffhanger; i dont even want to know what happened after that twilight zone episode of an ending, but the game cuts off anyway.

at any rate, i really do want to see can be done with progressing through time instead of location for a game, but da2 was an experiment; it taught us and surely bioware what they can do, but really isnt well put together on its own. some more evolution of kirkwall and the characters, an actual plot (doesnt need to be demon dragons, or even all that dangerous, but without some central goal the game is just a series of sidequests and even the plot quests feel superfluous), and less linearity (hawke is either jesus, satan, or inappropriate comic relief) are needed to make it really work as a full game.

and for the love of god, stop spawning waves of enemies during every fight. seriously, keep everything the same and just have me fight one group of tougher enemies for most fights, and da2 would be VASTLY improved.
 

Pilkingtube

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Seriously, Anders.. urg.
Oh, and is this common for anybody else?

I ended up playing as a mage, my brother pissed off to become a templar when I went to the deep roads without him to appease my (soon to be dead) mother. I never saw him again, one character down. I missed the weird white haired elf by not helping the lyrium smuggler, two characters down. Isabella stabbed me in the back over the crappy Qunari relic and buggered off with my best amulet, three down.

Merrill ended up going for the mirror with me, but I kinda screwed her over since she didn't like my character so I killed the entire dalish camp. I sided with the mages for the conflicts because that creepy chantry mother rubbed me up the wrong way. After Anders f*cked me over because he's all crazy, (seriously.. that one point where you're literally looking for magical shit-crystals, in piles of shit, in the sewers.. he seriously owed me one) kills the one likable non-companion/family NPC in the game by tricking me? I got rid of him as quickly as possible, four companions down. Ended up doing the final fights (killing both the first-enchanter and the resident batshit-crazy templar lady) with a ginger who expressed no emotion, a blood mage who hates me, and a dwarf with amazing chest hair.. hm.

I'm looking forwards to playing through supporting the templars this time, mainly because i'm not gonna be saddled with Carver, the guy who it is impossible to please. SORRY FOR BEING BORN BY THE WAY CARVER! :mad:
 

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white_salad said:
Travis Austin said:
I thought it was great. Since I don't know how to do spoiler tags, I can't say anything specific, but I was brought to tears on the mother thing..

I liked Fenris at first with his whole ripping people's hearts out, but then he started on his whole "Mages are evil and the bane of the universe."
I was happy when I...well I can't say.
Merrill was so naive.
I thought Anders was just a mages rights activist and wasn't that bad until he did THAT.
Oh god when he did THAT.
Killed that bastard. Like seriously what the hell.
Yeah totally

Loved Anders in Awakening, but when he killed the awesome Grand Cleric, who is pretty much the one good person in the city, I just fliped out, partially because I realized that he planted the bomb while I distracted the Cleric for him. I was so pissed off at him, I wish I had a quick time renegade option to decapitate that SOB, insted i had to settle for the knife in the back.
 

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Maraveno said:
do all characters from the wardens part make cameos or is it just Leliana Zevran and Alistair?
Alistair didn't show up for me, probably cause I killed his ass in part 1
 

ImprovizoR

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Wow, some of you guys really fucked up your playthroughs. I got every character's friendship (and they all stayed with me) and ended up being the only one who can help fix all that shit that happened.
 

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Pilkingtube said:
Seriously, Anders.. urg.
Oh, and is this common for anybody else?

After Anders f*cked me over because he's all crazy, (seriously.. that one point where you're literally looking for magical shit-crystals, in piles of shit, in the sewers.. he seriously owed me one) kills the one likable non-companion/family NPC in the game by tricking me?
You know the best part of that sewer quest?
Those magical shit-crystals from the sewers? That's one of the bomb's components. (Saltpeter by name or possibly urea by description) The other component is most likely sulfur, from the dragon mines.
Lying retconned abomination bastard.
 

ImprovizoR

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Well I'm all for
freedom of the mages since Origins. And even though what Anders did was extreme it had to be done. And since he's my strongest mage and I helped him do that shit I didn't kill him. I let him try to fix some of the shit he did by helping me. It seemed logical and practical. Whatever might have happened to him after the game is none of my concern.
Now imagine the reaction you'd have if the main character was a mute like in Origins. It would have been so much stronger.
 

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Pilkingtube said:
Oh! Also, did anybody else find Merrill a bit weird? Without going into spoilers, no matter what I did, she would only get rivalry with me, I was nice.. mean.. funny.. flirty.. nothing. :/

And did anybody else find it weird that they let the Cullen guy's voice actor return.. but he's the same guy as Anders, yet they changed Anders' voice actor?
Merrill got nothing bat friendship with me. I maxed her out really early. I wasn't trying, she just agreed with all of my decisions.
OP: A very good game, but not as good as Origins. The game only had a year and a half development cycle and you can tell in certain places. For me, the way companions are handled really made the game stand out. Slowly doing companion quests for 10 years really helps to endear the party members to me. I maintain that Merrill has the best character arc and romance in any Bioware game I've played in recent years.
 

StormShaun

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The ending was really speechless, also Fenris or whatever his name is, I hate him, he be EVIL, also what the heck will happen in Dragon Age 3 and who will you play......im confused
 

Exocet

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I found Fenris to be a whiny bastard with logic so flawed,I felt physical pain when he talked.
I mean,seriously?Blah Blah,Tevinter r EVIL,so all mages r EVIL! blah blah.
And Anders,woah,what happened to you man?You're a very angry man in act3.

But my favorite part of the game is
when you play as Varric when confronting his brother,and you're alone versus dozens of enemies and you just blow them away with your crossbow.The way it just gets less and less credible and the Seeker just goes:eek:k,stop that shit.
Also,if you see Isabella,tell her she stole my best daggers and has the blood of hundreds of people on her hands.But mostly the dagger thing.
 

Zannah

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Liked it a lot, though the third act had a few flaws of logic and few of the decisions actually mattered.
What probably annoyed me the most is how much freedom you have as apostate hawke, to the point of casting spells right in front of the Knight captain.

Though with some nagging effort, I got my boyfriend convinced to write up a little fanfiction on the matter, which can be found here for those interested. Now I just need to convince him to keep writing :<