Ben Affleck reportedly wants out of Wayne Manor

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I almost don't want it to end at this point -- The DC dumpster fire is just too entertaining.
 

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hermes said:
Probably because of what it means. I am not a fan of Batfleck, but he ended up being nowhere near the biggest problem of that movie. Also, he is not being "given the boot" because of poor fan reception or problems with the rest of the cast (I wish WB would listen with Leto and Eisenberg)... He is the one that wants out, apparently out of frustration with executive meddling and lack of creative freedom, and he is one of the biggest names in the whole production.

I would probably be wary about the longevity of a project when someone that not only seems to really like the character [http://batman-news.com/2013/08/27/ben-affleck-loves-batman-built-a-batcave-in-his-house/], but is also an award winning actor, writer and director, and has the net worth of all the other mayor actors put together is burned out of the whole thing after little more than one movie.
I know he's the one that wants out, if anything that makes it even more upsetting. It likely means that DC is gravely mishandling whatever project their doing if Affleck is so desperate to get out. I just think it's ironic that what everyone expected to be an awful portrayal actually ended up being a bright spot, and the one pillar that might be able to hold up another DC movie. But, doesn't sound like that's gonna happen now.
MatParker116 said:
Like I said if he returns to the world of Superheroes it's with Marvel and in that vein I think he'd make a great Smythe.
Also, I've got no idea what a Smythe is. I find superhero comics just awful to read.

http://s3.crackedcdn.com/phpimages/article/3/3/0/546330_v1.jpg

What am I even seeing? Just... no, you look awful, comics. I'll stick to film-going when it comes to Marvel and DC.
 

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Ebola_chan said:
It's funny how things work out. Leading up to the release of BvS everyone was bemoaning the fact that Ben Affleck would play Batman, and now everyone is lamenting his (potential) departure. I thought he was on the same level as Christian Bale, and I'll be really upset if we never get more Batman from Affleck, I think he has a lot to offer the character.

Whether he leaves or not, one thing is certain: People are fickle.
Like I said if he returns to the world of Superheroes it's with Marvel and in that vein I think he'd make a great Smythe.
No I think he would not want to waste 20+ years of his life doing nothing but Superhero movies and rather focus on making his own passion projects.
 

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hermes said:
Probably because of what it means. I am not a fan of Batfleck, but he ended up being nowhere near the biggest problem of that movie. Also, he is not being "given the boot" because of poor fan reception or problems with the rest of the cast (I wish WB would listen with Leto and Eisenberg)... He is the one that wants out, apparently out of frustration with executive meddling and lack of creative freedom, and he is one of the biggest names in the whole production.

I would probably be wary about the longevity of a project when someone that not only seems to really like the character [http://batman-news.com/2013/08/27/ben-affleck-loves-batman-built-a-batcave-in-his-house/], but is also an award winning actor, writer and director, and has the net worth of all the other mayor actors put together is burned out of the whole thing after little more than one movie.
I know he's the one that wants out, if anything that makes it even more upsetting. It likely means that DC is gravely mishandling whatever project their doing if Affleck is so desperate to get out. I just think it's ironic that what everyone expected to be an awful portrayal actually ended up being a bright spot, and the one pillar that might be able to hold up another DC movie. But, doesn't sound like that's gonna happen now.
MatParker116 said:
Like I said if he returns to the world of Superheroes it's with Marvel and in that vein I think he'd make a great Smythe.
Also, I've got no idea what a Smythe is. I find superhero comics just awful to read.

http://s3.crackedcdn.com/phpimages/article/3/3/0/546330_v1.jpg

What am I even seeing? Just... no, you look awful, comics. I'll stick to film-going when it comes to Marvel and DC.
Well you are looking at the Silver Age Comic there, What do you expect from the Silver Age? The Dark Knight?
 

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I have a feeling he was expecting more creative control than Warner is willing to give.

He's tied into Justice League now but I would be willing to bet that the solo Batman film never happens.
 

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That does not sound good. If Afleck leaves, that would be a major upset to the whole project. Hell, he was the best thing about BvS. The only scenes that were legitimately good were his, though there were plenty of bad scenes with him in the movie, but I don't think that was his fault.

Not that I don't understand. I think we all remember the sad Afleck meme. If things didn't improve since then, I really can't blame the guy. Also heard he didn't want to direct the solo Batman film, but if he doesn't want to be Batman at all, that would probably prevent that movie from even taking off in the first place.
 

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Hmm...new Batman? Does this mean a reboot?

Can we have a new origin story and watch his parents get shot again? That's what we all really want, right?
 

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Sucks as he was the best part of the DCU at the moment, granted we still have WW but want to see her in her own movie first. I know what they should do,just add Lego Batman to the live action Justice League movie.:)
 

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Samtemdo8 said:
Well you are looking at the Silver Age Comic there, What do you expect from the Silver Age? The Dark Knight?
I'm aware. I just thought I'd choose an especially egregious example of how shitty superhero comics can look/be. But if it makes you feel better I think the newer ones are just as bad. I can't take them seriously, with their plots that are so convoluted they'll never translate to the big or small screen properly and the way they constantly reboot, tweak and retcon everything. Not to mention that death is more of a momentary hiccup than anything, and there are infinite universes anyways that just render everything null and void. Not to mention how everything is completely free of stakes, despite how desperately they try to "ramp things up".

Boo to superheroes. The only graphic novel I follow now is (and will probably continue to be) The Walking Dead. If it's not grounded at least mostly in reality, I can't get into it.
 

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I wouldn't be surprised if it was true and frankly I wouldn't blame him either, even being the most positively received element of BvS the overall negative reception to the whole DCEU would still probably get you down if you see it as a group effort.

No matter how good he may be, the reputation of the DCEU seems pretty set in stone at this point no matter the quality of the film's yet to come out, its very easy to see how he may just see the whole rigamarole as simply not worth the effort.
 

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I can't help but feel a little sorry for Affleck. It's well known he loves comics and then be given opportunity to play the goddamn Batman? He most probably went in with a lot of enthusiasm and expectation. The way things turned out, through no real fault of his own (he no doubt gave it his very best), the disappointment at something you genuinely care about must sting.
 

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Ebola_chan said:
Samtemdo8 said:
Well you are looking at the Silver Age Comic there, What do you expect from the Silver Age? The Dark Knight?

Boo to superheroes. The only graphic novel I follow now is (and will probably continue to be) The Walking Dead. If it's not grounded at least mostly in reality, I can't get into it.
You should check it out Deadly Class or Southern Bastards, both are great reads. Hell Image has some pretty great books in general
 

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Casual Shinji said:
I almost don't want it to end at this point -- The DC dumpster fire is just too entertaining.
It really is fun to watch... except.

Don't get me wrong, I'm rooting for everything DCEU to fail. I have been ever since watching Man of Steel on opening day and reallllly wishing I could get my money back. It was so bad I very nearly walked out of the theater (something I never have done.) Every single time I see the next "problems for xxxxxx DC project" articles I smile. But that's because it is bringing us closer and closer to the much needed reboot with a new production team. So yes, its very fun to watch this train wreck in slow motion... but at some point I do want it to end because I like DC and I'd enjoy seeing a GOOD version on the big screen.

But Affleck, yeah he's fleeing. He has another Gigli level bomb on his hands and he's hot potato-ing it over to whomever WB can get to shovel it onto. Someone needs to tell these guys about the great Alan Smithee. He's perfect for the DCEU.
 

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I want to at least see an attempt. I have zero faith in any of the heroes left. Flash's Ezra Miller just kinda looks weird, Cyborg looks like a cheap Terminator, and Aquaman (the only movie who has had good news so far) is, well, Aquaman. Wonder Woman looks fine, but I feel like I know exactly what's going to happen in it already.

But Batman, Batman is so easy to do right, and (barring Zack Snyder's stupidity) he was done great in BvS. Give me one good Batman movie out of the DCEU, and the rest can go burn in the flames of a reboot.
 

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Thaluikhain said:
Hmm...new Batman? Does this mean a reboot?

Can we have a new origin story and watch his parents get shot again? That's what we all really want, right?
I want someone to finally give Batman a real reason to be Batman. The dead parents thing is fine and all for beginning his career, but continuing it? C'mon, you need something better than that.
 

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Bob_McMillan said:
Cyborg looks like a cheap Terminator.
Yup, I'm honestly not sure which looks better...
 

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Bob_McMillan said:
Thaluikhain said:
Hmm...new Batman? Does this mean a reboot?

Can we have a new origin story and watch his parents get shot again? That's what we all really want, right?
I want someone to finally give Batman a real reason to be Batman. The dead parents thing is fine and all for beginning his career, but continuing it? C'mon, you need something better than that.
Didn't Batman Begins do that though? At first Bruce wants revenge on Joe Chill, but when that's taken away from him by the Falcone lackeys, he realizes crime in Gotham is a much bigger issue, and merely taking out small fry like Chill will ultimately solve nothing. Then the League of Shadows teaches him the techniques, and finally the corruption in the GCPD (represented by Flass) makes him take matters to his own hands. I think that's plenty of justification beyond "muh mum and dad wurr murrdurrd".
 

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MatParker116 said:
http://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/films/news/the-batman-ben-affleck-director-no-more-the-dark-knight-a7580116.htmlM

?Over the past four days, I?ve talked to three separate people, who are connected in some way, to what is going on over at Warner Bros,? Campea said. ?They?re telling me that Ben Affleck, make no mistake, he does want out.

?He doesn?t want to be Batman anymore. I have been told that Affleck is talking with Warner Bros. in an attempt to get out of being Batman.?

Whether the rumours can be taken seriously is another matter completely, with Campea also warning fans to take it with a massive grain of salt. Both Warner Bros. and Affleck have yet to comment on the situation.
This is the death of the DCEU if it comes to pass, Affleck holds his craft to a high standard and I guess the only way he goes back into the Superhero game again is with Marvel and Kevin Feige.
We can only hope for another example of him holding his craft to a high standard, like Daredevil.
 

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Bob_McMillan said:
Thaluikhain said:
Hmm...new Batman? Does this mean a reboot?

Can we have a new origin story and watch his parents get shot again? That's what we all really want, right?
I want someone to finally give Batman a real reason to be Batman. The dead parents thing is fine and all for beginning his career, but continuing it? C'mon, you need something better than that.
Well, here's a radical notion for the producers and writers to try: being Batman is no longer the mission or a self-flagelating duty but because Bruce likes being a hero. Because Gotham is his home, and its people largely decent and kind and he choses to stand up for those who need help. Not for recognition or adulation but because he can.