I know he's the one that wants out, if anything that makes it even more upsetting. It likely means that DC is gravely mishandling whatever project their doing if Affleck is so desperate to get out. I just think it's ironic that what everyone expected to be an awful portrayal actually ended up being a bright spot, and the one pillar that might be able to hold up another DC movie. But, doesn't sound like that's gonna happen now.hermes said:Probably because of what it means. I am not a fan of Batfleck, but he ended up being nowhere near the biggest problem of that movie. Also, he is not being "given the boot" because of poor fan reception or problems with the rest of the cast (I wish WB would listen with Leto and Eisenberg)... He is the one that wants out, apparently out of frustration with executive meddling and lack of creative freedom, and he is one of the biggest names in the whole production.
I would probably be wary about the longevity of a project when someone that not only seems to really like the character [http://batman-news.com/2013/08/27/ben-affleck-loves-batman-built-a-batcave-in-his-house/], but is also an award winning actor, writer and director, and has the net worth of all the other mayor actors put together is burned out of the whole thing after little more than one movie.
Also, I've got no idea what a Smythe is. I find superhero comics just awful to read.MatParker116 said:Like I said if he returns to the world of Superheroes it's with Marvel and in that vein I think he'd make a great Smythe.
No I think he would not want to waste 20+ years of his life doing nothing but Superhero movies and rather focus on making his own passion projects.MatParker116 said:Like I said if he returns to the world of Superheroes it's with Marvel and in that vein I think he'd make a great Smythe.Ebola_chan said:It's funny how things work out. Leading up to the release of BvS everyone was bemoaning the fact that Ben Affleck would play Batman, and now everyone is lamenting his (potential) departure. I thought he was on the same level as Christian Bale, and I'll be really upset if we never get more Batman from Affleck, I think he has a lot to offer the character.
Whether he leaves or not, one thing is certain: People are fickle.
Well you are looking at the Silver Age Comic there, What do you expect from the Silver Age? The Dark Knight?Ebola_chan said:I know he's the one that wants out, if anything that makes it even more upsetting. It likely means that DC is gravely mishandling whatever project their doing if Affleck is so desperate to get out. I just think it's ironic that what everyone expected to be an awful portrayal actually ended up being a bright spot, and the one pillar that might be able to hold up another DC movie. But, doesn't sound like that's gonna happen now.hermes said:Probably because of what it means. I am not a fan of Batfleck, but he ended up being nowhere near the biggest problem of that movie. Also, he is not being "given the boot" because of poor fan reception or problems with the rest of the cast (I wish WB would listen with Leto and Eisenberg)... He is the one that wants out, apparently out of frustration with executive meddling and lack of creative freedom, and he is one of the biggest names in the whole production.
I would probably be wary about the longevity of a project when someone that not only seems to really like the character [http://batman-news.com/2013/08/27/ben-affleck-loves-batman-built-a-batcave-in-his-house/], but is also an award winning actor, writer and director, and has the net worth of all the other mayor actors put together is burned out of the whole thing after little more than one movie.Also, I've got no idea what a Smythe is. I find superhero comics just awful to read.MatParker116 said:Like I said if he returns to the world of Superheroes it's with Marvel and in that vein I think he'd make a great Smythe.
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What am I even seeing? Just... no, you look awful, comics. I'll stick to film-going when it comes to Marvel and DC.
I'm aware. I just thought I'd choose an especially egregious example of how shitty superhero comics can look/be. But if it makes you feel better I think the newer ones are just as bad. I can't take them seriously, with their plots that are so convoluted they'll never translate to the big or small screen properly and the way they constantly reboot, tweak and retcon everything. Not to mention that death is more of a momentary hiccup than anything, and there are infinite universes anyways that just render everything null and void. Not to mention how everything is completely free of stakes, despite how desperately they try to "ramp things up".Samtemdo8 said:Well you are looking at the Silver Age Comic there, What do you expect from the Silver Age? The Dark Knight?
You should check it out Deadly Class or Southern Bastards, both are great reads. Hell Image has some pretty great books in generalEbola_chan said:Samtemdo8 said:Well you are looking at the Silver Age Comic there, What do you expect from the Silver Age? The Dark Knight?
Boo to superheroes. The only graphic novel I follow now is (and will probably continue to be) The Walking Dead. If it's not grounded at least mostly in reality, I can't get into it.
It really is fun to watch... except.Casual Shinji said:I almost don't want it to end at this point -- The DC dumpster fire is just too entertaining.
I want someone to finally give Batman a real reason to be Batman. The dead parents thing is fine and all for beginning his career, but continuing it? C'mon, you need something better than that.Thaluikhain said:Hmm...new Batman? Does this mean a reboot?
Can we have a new origin story and watch his parents get shot again? That's what we all really want, right?
Yup, I'm honestly not sure which looks better...Bob_McMillan said:Cyborg looks like a cheap Terminator.
Didn't Batman Begins do that though? At first Bruce wants revenge on Joe Chill, but when that's taken away from him by the Falcone lackeys, he realizes crime in Gotham is a much bigger issue, and merely taking out small fry like Chill will ultimately solve nothing. Then the League of Shadows teaches him the techniques, and finally the corruption in the GCPD (represented by Flass) makes him take matters to his own hands. I think that's plenty of justification beyond "muh mum and dad wurr murrdurrd".Bob_McMillan said:I want someone to finally give Batman a real reason to be Batman. The dead parents thing is fine and all for beginning his career, but continuing it? C'mon, you need something better than that.Thaluikhain said:Hmm...new Batman? Does this mean a reboot?
Can we have a new origin story and watch his parents get shot again? That's what we all really want, right?
We can only hope for another example of him holding his craft to a high standard, like Daredevil.MatParker116 said:http://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/films/news/the-batman-ben-affleck-director-no-more-the-dark-knight-a7580116.htmlM
This is the death of the DCEU if it comes to pass, Affleck holds his craft to a high standard and I guess the only way he goes back into the Superhero game again is with Marvel and Kevin Feige.?Over the past four days, I?ve talked to three separate people, who are connected in some way, to what is going on over at Warner Bros,? Campea said. ?They?re telling me that Ben Affleck, make no mistake, he does want out.
?He doesn?t want to be Batman anymore. I have been told that Affleck is talking with Warner Bros. in an attempt to get out of being Batman.?
Whether the rumours can be taken seriously is another matter completely, with Campea also warning fans to take it with a massive grain of salt. Both Warner Bros. and Affleck have yet to comment on the situation.
Well, here's a radical notion for the producers and writers to try: being Batman is no longer the mission or a self-flagelating duty but because Bruce likes being a hero. Because Gotham is his home, and its people largely decent and kind and he choses to stand up for those who need help. Not for recognition or adulation but because he can.Bob_McMillan said:I want someone to finally give Batman a real reason to be Batman. The dead parents thing is fine and all for beginning his career, but continuing it? C'mon, you need something better than that.Thaluikhain said:Hmm...new Batman? Does this mean a reboot?
Can we have a new origin story and watch his parents get shot again? That's what we all really want, right?