And if the court rules in his favor then it can be construed that the court isn't in favor of homosexuality and the press/media have a field day. Like I said thrown out of court.blalien said:
Best Buy Employee "Outs" Straight Guy
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-Chuckles madly at the article and the subsequent raging-
It's fair to say that a dude who thinks his reputation is tarnished because he was called gay is rather lacking in neurons, and possibly sensible family/friends.
Extra evidence, in a time when identity theft is a major problem not signing out of apps like facebook when the phone leaves your possession is rather negligent, but it always happens because people are lazy.
Also, if we look at this basically, man A doesn't log out of Facebook, man B does the culturally accepted thing of post funny message on wall, man A gets offended so calls for man B to be sacked, man B is sacked, man A feeling this isn't enough may sue man B.
In a time when huge swathes of the US/UK/Europe are without jobs/homes etc, can we have a bit of perspective before throwing words like "vindictive" around??
To get someone sacked in the present economic climate is far more vindictive than posting an 'I am gay, I am happy.' post on facebook.
As a much lesser point:
I was repeatedly asked through the entirity of secondary school, if I was a socialist/communist by cretins who thought it was a slur (thank you America, for that little gem
), as that was a rumour going round the school, and even now 8 years later still have people asking me, when am out drinking, "So, were you really a socialist when we were in school?"
Things like this aren't traumatising they are bloody hilarious as it shows other peoples idiotic ideas and prejudices.
It's fair to say that a dude who thinks his reputation is tarnished because he was called gay is rather lacking in neurons, and possibly sensible family/friends.
Extra evidence, in a time when identity theft is a major problem not signing out of apps like facebook when the phone leaves your possession is rather negligent, but it always happens because people are lazy.
Also, if we look at this basically, man A doesn't log out of Facebook, man B does the culturally accepted thing of post funny message on wall, man A gets offended so calls for man B to be sacked, man B is sacked, man A feeling this isn't enough may sue man B.
In a time when huge swathes of the US/UK/Europe are without jobs/homes etc, can we have a bit of perspective before throwing words like "vindictive" around??
To get someone sacked in the present economic climate is far more vindictive than posting an 'I am gay, I am happy.' post on facebook.
As a much lesser point:
I was repeatedly asked through the entirity of secondary school, if I was a socialist/communist by cretins who thought it was a slur (thank you America, for that little gem
), as that was a rumour going round the school, and even now 8 years later still have people asking me, when am out drinking, "So, were you really a socialist when we were in school?"Things like this aren't traumatising they are bloody hilarious as it shows other peoples idiotic ideas and prejudices.
See, I agree with this guy. No one should have too explain too EVERYONE they know that they are not gay/strait/*insert embarrassing or private thing here*. He should find out the specific ex-employees name and sue him only. Only sue Best Buy if they wont give up the former employees name.The Hungry Samurai said:
Shame on you for making it sound like the guy is a homophobe.Grey Carter said:
If the person was gay and outed as strait and did the same thing, Would you write it the they were a heterophobe? If the fake post was racist/anti-whateverist and the person did the same thing, How would you write that??
You need to think these things through. If you were *insert* and someone told everyone *insert embarrassing lie*, while impersonating you, would be fine with it?
For me, I think people in our society take lies far to nicely. Back in the 2010 senatorial race where the democrats 'creatively edited' a speech the republican candidate gave, making it look like he said some very rude things, I honestly believe that candidate should have sued. I lost a little respect for that republican because he did not sue. Heck, I dislike 90% of politicians because so many lie. I swear, lies will lead us too America falling just like Rome did 1200 years ago.
All a person truly has is their word. 50-100 years ago if you told the bank you would repay your loan, that is what happened. They mainly had contracts so everyone could remember, years later, what they agreed too. I really do dislike dishonest people, I do not do business with them, I do not hire them, 3 confirmed strikes and you are fired from my service.
And if the employee did more then that? He was fired before the victim made his complaint. That tells me this was not a first offense. What else did he do?Idlemessiah said:
Also, hindsight and 20/20. My internet browser saves all my passwords, as do many other people who also use the internet. I am lucky that if my computer repair shop did this to me (or anyone else) they would forced to shutdown in less then 6 months. Why? because I live in a small town and everyone I know (1/2 the town) and everyone they know (other 1/2) would stop doing business with someone they could not trust on their computers.
Sidiron said:
My computer, and websites like the Escapist Magazine, lets the user stay logged in. Even if I close the program, the passwords are still saved. I can not even remember my password to most sites because I use that feature. You say lazy, but why? It is my computer/device. I use a log-in password and I am looking to install a boot-password. I should be able to trust people not to make me look stupid if I give them those two things. If I can not, then I do not do business with them/they are not my friend.
Though the news media in most of the world, could be called a flat-out idiot. So he does have a point.FelixG said:
The media (ALL media) lies so much, I can hardly stand too watch it anymore. I never know if they are lying, telling half-truth, or (on rare occasion) telling the truth.
That is true, but this is a problem with, as I said, the laziness of human beings. But instead of accepting the fact that I'm an idiot for leaving all my personal data open to inspection/tampering, because face it the intention and the result were not malicious nor really detrimental to the victim. If he had used the access to commit fraud or pornography offences for example, this would be a different matter.Gilhelmi said:
Also I am not condoning the action that was perpetrated merely stating, again, that when taken as part of the big picture; getting someone sacked over such a trivial thing and trying to sue over it, is plain pathetic and vindicitive.
I guess it comes down to my dislike of lying. I view it as an assault against society and one of the major causes for the decline of civilization.Sidiron said:
So my final word is this. Vindictive, yes but only if the victim asks for far too much money, otherwise No. $15,000-$20,000 tops for the suit. much more then that is ridiculous. Pathetic, No because it comes down too personal honor and my personal word, My word is my bond. If I promise to do something, it will be done. If I say something it is the truth to the best of my knowledge.
I doff my hat to you, honestly, using your word as your bond and holding promises in such high esteem is a particular noble ambition, and one I share.Gilhelmi said:
However, I seek to differ when it comes to the prospect of reimbursement or as we should really call it retribution. It is truly vindictive, because it is "showing a strong or unreasoning desire for revenge, often with a desire to hurt."
In a country where a record 88.4 million people are considered "not in the labor force" and the percentage of the working age population actually in work is the lowest since December 1981, I do think that sacking someone and then suing after that, is vindictive and an over the top response.
To FelixG, this "asshole employee" may have commited a transgression but as things are not nice absolutes we look at the results and implications, which were to be blunt fuck all, it didn't cause the poor victim to lose his house or struggle in terms of finances, because if it did then the gay communtiy that everyone seems to enjoy denigrating so much would be up in arms about that, becuase he would have been a victim of homophobic discrimination. But even here it would not be the fault of the twonk who did the 'fraping'.
Let me reitterate, the guy was obviously a twit for doing it, he probably did it for a giggle, and am sure he kicks himself now. But it isn't this great invasion that you are making it out to be, if you are concerned about that, get irrate at your damn governments, because I can assure you that they will take more glee and benefit from invading your privacy than some "asshole employee" behind a sodding counter.
And the media would never in the slightest do anything like that to... oh I don't know... make sales?FelixG said:
Even if it's inaccurate, controversy sells.
Y'know, the vast majority of us here may not have any issues with anyone else's sexuality, but we don't know that about this gentleman's friends and family. It's far from impossible that there are people in his life who wouldn't understand that an account could be mis-used this way, and even people who would "unfriend" him upon the revelation.
He has every right to be angry. And someone who would play such a potentially harmful "prank" on a customer shouldn't be allowed to remain in a position to do so. You might think being believed a homosexual shouldn't have a negative impact on someone's life, but don't in your belief misunderstand that it doesn't; we're not there yet, not by a long shot.
He has every right to be angry. And someone who would play such a potentially harmful "prank" on a customer shouldn't be allowed to remain in a position to do so. You might think being believed a homosexual shouldn't have a negative impact on someone's life, but don't in your belief misunderstand that it doesn't; we're not there yet, not by a long shot.
i used the word wrong, but i stand by the logic i used. if something is atypical, it's not typical.Draconalis said:
the a- prefix means "not" or "un" basically. my logic was Asexual is Non-sexual.
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/asexual?s=t
and there's a dictionary.com entry to support that. so next time you correct someone, try not to be wrong.
EDIT: i love the smell of victory in the morning. (not that you would know that smell.)
Please refrain from the sneering condescension, as I am hardly the voice of "today's youth" neither am I saying that I have no issue with people invading my privacy, as you would note if you read the entirity of my post and didn't wish to mis-represent it.FelixG said:
I would be interested at what your advanced level of psychoanalysis reveals about my approach to privacy, most genuinely.
I do not think he is an arsehole because he finds being identified as gay as a slur on his reputation, I find the idea/comment lacking judgement and/or a solid supportive social network, but that could possibly be a problem endemic with the youths of today?
Similarly getting bogged down in the minutiae of privacy protection is slightly problematic when the governments of the west are trying (and somewhat succeeding) to erode civil liberties faster than it is making people homeless, but evidently fraping is breaching some sacresanct imperative and is the true sign that the world is degrading round our ears.
Apologies, for being so deluded and mis-guided, and if I may I will take my leave and let you administer your teachings to the rest.
