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We all know that Disney is the king of animated movies. So, what are some good animated movies that weren't made by the House of Mouse?
 

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King of animated movies? I think it's too soft, as a person that grew up with stuff like Looney Tunes and Tom and Jerry, though they weren't movies exactly.

Are you looking for kid-friendly type of film or any animated movie (like more adult/violent stuff too)?
 

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Delicious Anathema said:
King of animated movies? I think it's too soft, as a person that grew up with stuff like Looney Tunes and Tom and Jerry, though they weren't movies exactly.

Are you looking for kid-friendly type of film or any animated movie (like more adult/violent stuff too)?
Any animated movies, as long as it isn't anime.
 

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There are some genuine classics outside of the Disney stables.

The Land Before Time (the original) is one of the most genuinely emotionally affecting movies I have ever watched.

The Prince of Egypt is the only other good movie about Exodus

How to Train your Dragon 1 & 2 are Dreamworks greatest one-two punch movie combo.

An American Tale is one the most interesting movies I've ever seen about being a migrant.
 

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Off the top of my head:

Pixar

-Toy Story

-Toy Story 3

-WALL-E

-Up

-Finding Nemo

DreamWorks

-Shrek

-Shrek 2

-Kung Fu Panda

-Prince of Egypt

-How to Train Your Dragon

Blue Sky

-Ice Age

-The Peanuts Movie

Other

-Spirited Away

-The Land Before Time

I'm sure there's plenty of others I can name, but if I'm thinking of the cream of the crop of specific studios, these are the ones that usually come to mind (even if Blue Sky is more by comparison to its other works rather than being classics in of themselves)
 

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Post-Disney Don Bluth deserves a mention atleast.
 

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I think most of the best animated films are shorts. Really partial to Princess Mononoke and Mind Game, though.
 

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Spirited Away, My Neighbor Totoro, Kiki's Delivery Service, Coraline, Paranorman, Waltz with Bashir, The Tale of Princess Kaguya, Paprika, Akira, Redline, Little Witch Academia (both are short films though), How to Train your Dragon, Princess Mononoke, South Park: Bigger, Longer & Uncut, anything by Aardman, The Girl who Leapt through Time, Wolf Children, The Lego Movie, A Town called Panic, The Iron Giant.

You can call Disney the king of animated movies based on their influence and history. In terms of track record though, Studio Ghibli runs rings around them with far less duds and consistently hitting their mark.
 

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Ghibli beats Disney 9 times out of 10. Better visuals, better soundtrack, more complex stories. (The tenth one is Pom Poko. That was just weird)

Which is why Disney should start focussing on a musical Star Wars movie instead.
 

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So I assume no anime otherwise this'd be over in a second.

The Secret of NIMH and The Land Before Time are probably the best non-Disney Disney movies. They were making waves during the same period that Disney was impotently peddling around.

The Wallace and Gromit shorts by Aardman, though the feature length film is also pretty darn good.

The Iron Giant was fantastic.

The Triplets of Bellville while not one of my favourite movies has some incredible animation on display.

And I guess I'll close off with Fantastic Mr. Fox. Though The Adventures of Mark Twain is also worth a watch.
 

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A couple of really good ones that haven't been mentioned yet are The King and the Mockingbird (a big influence for Miyazaki), Watership Down, Mary and Max (I guess kind of Aardman-ish, but slower paced and more drama than comedy), The Illusionist (the French 2010 one), The Nightmare before Christmas, The Secret of Kells, Perfect Blue and Tokyo Godfathers.

The recently released The Red Turtle looks great as well, but I haven't seen it yet.
 

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Can I assume that we're not counting anime? Because that would be the whole list right there, Disney or not.

If we're talking about the best, then it's probably gotta go to The Iron Giant. Brad Bird set out to create animated film that improved upon everything Disney was doing wrong, and he succeeded... In terms of quality. Total financial failure. Still, that movie had a lot of heart, as most Brad Bird movies do these days.
 

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Casual Shinji said:
So I assume no anime otherwise this'd be over in a second.

The Secret of NIMH and The Land Before Time are probably the best non-Disney Disney movies. They were making waves during the same period that Disney was impotently peddling around.

The Wallace and Gromit shorts by Aardman, though the feature length film is also pretty darn good.

The Iron Giant was fantastic.

The Triplets of Bellville while not one of my favourite movies has some incredible animation on display.

And I guess I'll close off with Fantastic Mr. Fox. Though The Adventures of Mark Twain is also worth a watch.
Shit, when I was doing my list I knew there was one missing. I fucking knew it, and now you've written it down I remembered. It was Iron Giant.
 

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Adding some more, after being reminded of them:

-The Iron Giant

-FernGully: The Last Rainforest (bite me)

-South Park: Bigger, Longer, and Uncut

-The Swan Princess (maybe...I dunno...scuttlebutt is that it's better than the sequels that followed it at least)

-Once Upon a Forest (another "maybe")
 

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Hawki said:
Off the top of my head:

Pixar

-Toy Story

-Toy Story 3

-WALL-E

-Up

-Finding Nemo
Pixar is a Disney Company. Even when it wasn't, all its major successes were under Disney anyway. Also You forgot the best Pixar movie. For shame.

Dreamworks of course makes excellent movies... mostly. I love the Kung Fu Panda and How to Train Your Dragon series, and plenty of people love Madagascar and Shrek. The Prince of Egypt was also well-received, and personally I like El Dorado too.

Aside from the two big ones, Illumination seems to be a distant third. Plenty of people like their movies alright but I don't think they've produced any real instant classics.
 

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Kolby Jack said:
Pixar is a Disney Company. Even when it wasn't, all its major successes were under Disney anyway. Also You forgot the best Pixar movie. For shame.
I know that Pixar is under Disney, but I've always considered them separate, at least as far as style/content goes. Disney, at least as far as its animated features go, are a bit more 'classical,' of taking pre-established stories/myths and putting their own spin on them, ranging from Snow White to as recently as Moana. Pixar is more based on taking a concept rather than a pre-existing story and making a story out of it (toys being alive, monsters in your closet, figures in your mind, etc.). There's exceptions in both cases, but that's the general feeling I get out of both.

As for best, um...is it Toy Story 2? Because if so, I think it's fine, but the weakest of the trilogy. If Inside Out, afraid I haven't seen it. If The Incredibles, I'm quite "meh" about that film. If something else, well...long as it's not Cars 2, we can still be friends. ^_^

Kolby Jack said:
Aside from the two big ones, Illumination seems to be a distant third. Plenty of people like their movies alright but I don't think they've produced any real instant classics.
Illumination is a weird beast, at least as far as how I'd define them in comparison to Disney, Pixar, or DreamWorks (primarily defined by a combination of wackiness and, at times, sense of adventure). I'm not really an animation afficionado, and I'm afraid the only film of theirs I've seen is Secret Life of Pets, which can be summed up as "meh" for me. I could see it being a classic for children who saw the film last year, same way as Toy Story became as classic for me and many others when it came out, but SLOP does feel like a much weaker film in comparison. Can't deny the presence of Minions either among kids, but whether it's a "classic"...well, you tell me.
 

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Hawki said:
Kolby Jack said:
Pixar is a Disney Company. Even when it wasn't, all its major successes were under Disney anyway. Also You forgot the best Pixar movie. For shame.
I know that Pixar is under Disney, but I've always considered them separate, at least as far as style/content goes. Disney, at least as far as its animated features go, are a bit more 'classical,' of taking pre-established stories/myths and putting their own spin on them, ranging from Snow White to as recently as Moana. Pixar is more based on taking a concept rather than a pre-existing story and making a story out of it (toys being alive, monsters in your closet, figures in your mind, etc.). There's exceptions in both cases, but that's the general feeling I get out of both.

As for best, um...is it Toy Story 2? Because if so, I think it's fine, but the weakest of the trilogy. If Inside Out, afraid I haven't seen it. If The Incredibles, I'm quite "meh" about that film. If something else, well...long as it's not Cars 2, we can still be friends. ^_^
OF COURSE IT'S CARS 2!! Are you telling me that you didn't find Mater's quest to become a secret agent both hilarious and ENRAPTURING?! Shakespeare WISHES he could have composed a script as compelling as Cars 2!!!!1

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Okay, no, it's The Incredibles. I like it because it's the only really unique Pixar film among the lot. Instead of trying to simply beat you over the head with feelings and nostalgia (to varying degrees of success), it actually has great action, a complex arc involving multiple characters, and stakes on many levels. It's far more complex than any other Pixar film, which I think is to its benefit.
 

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Delicious Anathema said:
King of animated movies? I think it's too soft, as a person that grew up with stuff like Looney Tunes and Tom and Jerry, though they weren't movies exactly.

Are you looking for kid-friendly type of film or any animated movie (like more adult/violent stuff too)?
Any animated movies, as long as it isn't anime.
The South Park movies are great. I like the Ed, Edd n' Eddy films too.