Best/Worst Major Villain? *spoilers*

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TaborMallory

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Good: Anything from skullmonkeys! Particularly Joe-Head-Joe. Play the game and tell me otherwise.

Bad: Ridly from the metroid series. He may be a fun boss to fight, but that mofo never dies :mad:

VERY bad: 343 Guilty Spark. 'nuf said.
 
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I forgive Ridley, on the grounds that the first boss fight with him in Metroid Prime 3 was freaking epic (not the morph ball mini fight, the one after).
 

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Good: Dante in DMC4 midway through the game, when you were playing as Nero. That fight kicked my ass so many times until I got a proper rhythm going. He came at you like he was an actual played character, utilising all of his abilities and being really cheap about some of them :(
Also I'm gonna back up the Saren vote. Part of me was compelled by the whole "Submission is preferable to annihilation" argument.

Bad: Timeshift final battle. I just found that thoroughly underwhelming. They have you on a building roof shooting at this far away giant robot. I never felt connected to the fight though. More like an annoying pest. It wasn't fun for me, and barely felt like a boss by the time I'd won.
Also, Atlas from Bioshock. The fight, as opposed to the character. The ending too which followed. I felt utterly underwhelmed from the start of the fight til the end of the credits roll.

Ugly: 343 Guilty Spark on Halo 3. I'm sorry, I thought the last boss was meant to be CHALLENGING.

Really ugly: Any and all dark Aeons+Penance(sp?) from FFX. Fuck those fights, seriously. -_-
 

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Best... I'd have to say Andrew Ryan from Bioshock. I'm aware he wasn't "Last Boss" stock, but I truly think he was a much better villain then the shimmy they switched him with right at the end, and he died like a punk. Damn shame.

Worst.. Well, I was going to say Al-Mualyim from Assassin's Creed, but Darth Traya beats him for the "Most obviously a twist villain from the start of the game" award.
 

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Good:the viseer from prince of persia and the two thornes

Bad:Dr.nefarious from racthet and clank 3 he was probably the most dumbest villain ever
 

Altorin

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if we're talking horrible looking last boss... the last boss from Bioshock wins hands down, because he looked....so.....stupid....

I was imagining what he would look like... he's taunting you as you approach his room about how he never juiced up with Adam prior to his encounter with you, and he was planning to use every ounce of Adam before you got there... so I was imagining the horrifying display that I'd get...

and I gotta say, he reminded me of The Tick.

Not exactly scary.
 

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thebobmaster post=9.69373.657432 said:
Hold the phone! I am not the only Chrono Cross fan?! Sweet.
Huge Chrono Cross fan here, you're not alone.


As for villians?

Good: Kefka (Final Fantasy VI) He's evil, has no remorse and would double cross anyone. The best thing? He truly makes people suffer, just look at what he did to Cyan for an example.

Bad: Dr. Bertruger (Doom 3) The Man is a true pansy. I never felt any villiany from him, just a whole bunch of empty threats and campiness.
 

Altorin

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N-Sef post=9.69373.658062 said:
I never felt any villiany from him, just a whole bunch of empty threats and campiness.
that's it, that's why I thought Andrew Ryan (bioshock) was such a great villain, because he always felt like his threats weren't empty, even when you were knocking on his door. I really thought he'd go out guns/plasmids blazing... real cockup that one, andrew ryan was the man in rapture.
 

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Good: In the DoW series (if you were against them): Necron Lord, Lord Crull.

Bad: Gargarensis from Age of Mythology, the 'villains' from Stubbs the Zombie and the Japanese brothers from Black and White 2.
 

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Good: Dimitri Rascalov in GTA IV, that man's treachery knows no bounds

Bad: 343 Guilty Spark, boss fight was way too easy and he wasn't that interesting as a character.
 

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Spartan Bannana post=9.69373.658154 said:
Bad: 343 Guilty Spark, boss fight was way too easy and he wasn't that interesting as a character.
Of course he wasn't, he was a light bulb.
 

Altorin

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I know this is a gaming thread

but all of the villains from Captain Planet blow.
 

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I'm a huge Chrono Cross fan as well and I agree with Lynx as a good villain. As for villains that I haven't seen mentioned here:

Good: Scolar Visari from Killzone (Along with many of the other Helghast including General Lente) his speech at the beginning of the first Killzone game is amazing and sums him up as an antagonist wonderfully.
King Bohan from Heavenly Sword is a wonderful villain, he has great lines and mannerisms that are hilarious and highlight how mad he is and becomes later in the game.

Bad: Oddly I'll say Gorgutz from the Dawn of War series (specifically from Soulstorm) He's entertaining but it is clear that he's a villain who can't accomplish anything. He was great in Winter Assault and even Dark Crusade because while you knew that he wasn't a realistic threat (because storywise he simply can't win for continuity) but he was hilarious and a great character. He lost a lot of that in Soulstorm and simply became a nuisance and didn't have any good lines. I would say 343 Guilty Spark but you guys seem to have it covered...
 

Altorin

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Good: The Shredder in Turtles in Time
Bad: The Shredder in everything else.
 

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Good: GLaDOS from Portal, she creeps me out throughout the entire game, and then just gets so sadistic at the end, then she sings a song in the end credits? I was never able to predict what she would do next.

Bad: Saren from Mass Effect. It was all so typical Sci-Fi crap with him:
"HE'S THE BADDIE BUT THEY WON'T BELIEVE US, :C"
*Cue mentor character's prior history with bad guy*
*Cue Galaxy-wide chase.*
"OH LAWD, HE'S NOT THE REAL BADDIE."
*Cue evil plot for Genocide.*
"HE'S BEING MIND CONTROLLED? OH TEH NOES."
*Cue boss fight with him coming back.*
"AND NOW HE'S DEAD."
 

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Good: GLaDOS (so awesomely sarcastic, and evil); Ganondork; All RE4 bosses; That Evil Scientist from TimeShift.

Bad: Dark Messiah's last boss (too goddamn easy); All Iron Man bosses (besides, the whole game was pissy easy, eye hurting, and overall crappy).
 

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PAGEToap44 post=9.69373.658163 said:
Spartan Bannana post=9.69373.658154 said:
Bad: 343 Guilty Spark, boss fight was way too easy and he wasn't that interesting as a character.
Of course he wasn't, he was a light bulb.
I read the books and didn't know he was in the third game. Wonderful.

I really can't believe no one's said this yet, but the Joker! C'mon! Greatest supervillian of all time right there!

For bad, I'd say any James Bond villian. Not only do they have the most elaborate schemes to kill you, rather than say, pump you full of lead, they give you 20 minutes to get out. I'm sorry, but unless you're intent is to kill the hero, rather than bore him to death, you're not a villian.
 

Altorin

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Zombie_King post=9.69373.658247 said:
I really can't believe no one's said this yet, but the Joker! C'mon! Greatest supervillian of all time right there!
this is mainly a game thread, and the Joker has never been properly done in a game, except maybe in the original NES batman.

And honestly, the joker has been overhyped way way way way way too much lately.
 

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*Cue boss fight with him coming back.*
"AND NOW HE'S DEAD."
If you could charm/intimidate well enough, you could actually convince him to shoot himself in the face. Was most satisfying the first time I did it.