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I really, really, wanted to like Safe House. I think I've already posted on your Safe House review (And likely posted/linked my own review), so I don't want to be redundant.

All I'll say is, we share thoughts regarding that movie.

Edit: Apparently I didn't. Here's my own review [http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1599348/reviews-76].
 

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Shocksplicer said:
The Hunger Games was definitely the worst movie I saw this year
Why?
PsychedelicDiamond said:
Wait a minute! Here in Germany Cloud Atlas was released about two weeks after the American release. I remember it because i was really hyped for it and saw it as soon as i had the opportunity.
Huh. I thought it was almost all over the overseas territories that had a 2013 release date. Turns out about half of them already have it. "The more you know," right?
Beffudled Sheep said:
Well its just that the first 2 were meh at best and rather bad most of the time so im just slightly beffudled when mention of a 3rd one is heralded as the bestest evar. I haventseen it though so I cant judge it.
The second one was that "unbelievably horrible" movie, while #3 is the most fun I've had watching a movie.
 
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Marter said:
Shocksplicer said:
The Hunger Games was definitely the worst movie I saw this year
Why?
PsychedelicDiamond said:
Wait a minute! Here in Germany Cloud Atlas was released about two weeks after the American release. I remember it because i was really hyped for it and saw it as soon as i had the opportunity.
Huh. I thought it was almost all over the overseas territories that had a 2013 release date. Turns out about half of them already have it. "The more you know," right?
Beffudled Sheep said:
Well its just that the first 2 were meh at best and rather bad most of the time so im just slightly beffudled when mention of a 3rd one is heralded as the bestest evar. I haventseen it though so I cant judge it.
The second one was that "unbelievably horrible" movie, while #3 is the most fun I've had watching a movie.
How was Ron Pearlman in it?
 

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Beffudled Sheep said:
How was Ron Pearlman in it?
Probably because he doesn't judge his projects beforehand.

Billy Zane is in it, too, and is by far the most enjoyable. Perlman only gets, like, 4 relatively scenes.
 

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Not a bad set of lists. I dont agree with most of it, but the reasoning justifying these choices is solid and well rounded.

Personally if I had to pick (and Ill just go 1 and 1) it would have been very easy choices for both. Oddly they present mirrored reflections of major problems with film in this era.


I would have went Cloud Atlas for best. Even if you dont like Hanks, there is a reason hes an Icon. Very in depth attempt to be something inventive and unique while still retaining mass appeal and not falling apart under all that pressure is an astounding feat any more. I would have picked it just for it being a film that tried to push ideology usually reserved for art house to main stream audiences. I love when a film tries to push boundaries. I love it more when a film expects the audience to think. In this ADHD riddled world it is stunning to me that something like this get made, much less not become an instantaneous box office bomb. It is truly shameful that this film has barely made back its budget. It most likely will once international releases and eventual home media releases become available, but realistically the best this film can financially hope for is to be considered a cult classic, or critically acclaimed once it starts running through award season. It likely wont because of other "critic" fodder films like Lincoln will essentially cock block it due to it being too out there to have wide spread appeal.

For worst hands down with no reservation whatsoever has to be the Avengers. Being tied to the house of mouse would be enough for me to condemn it. Being overhyped based on fanboy cred as well as even more hype being generated by being directed by a guy who has made a career on fanboy (and girl) cred would be enough on its own to justify condemning it. However to me what truly truly sinks this film is the fact even if you scrape away all the muck and mire of lameness that point to why it should suck, the way it performs truly amazing gymnastics of sucking is monumentally profound. For a film that has been built up over the last half decade, Been generating structure, foreshadowing, narrative exposition, built from a source all about narrative exposition, what you essentially get is this long tediously meandering blob of a plot centered around a "why should I give a shit" magical McGuffin. Simply it makes the biggest mistake a big budget summer blockbuster type film could make. Its tedious, repetitive and boring. It is basically 80% of what people condemn the Transformers film franchise for, Yet for no justifiable reason it is forgiven for doing many of the exact same things. And still despite the painfully glaring flaws and its incredible budget it STILL was pushed to be one of if not THE most profitable films of the year.

So shamefully, yet again, another year goes by in film where garbage is heralded as gold, and treasure is publicly viewed as little more than trash. Almost makes you want to stop watching all together.

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Marter said:
Beffudled Sheep said:
How was Ron Pearlman in it?
Probably because he doesn't judge his projects beforehand.

Billy Zane is in it, too, and is by far the most enjoyable. Perlman only gets, like, 4 relatively scenes.
Got to love Perlman. Great actor, but the impressive thing is he was early on both smart and humble enough to understand he had a face that Hollywood would NOT buy, so he adopted the "beggars cant be choosers" method of role selection. Hes been in some horrible messes of films (Mutant Chronicals painfully comes to mind) yet hes always good for what he puts in.
 

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While opinions are always opinions, let me throw in one or two here.

No Twilight in the worst list..? Thats kinda surprising, but then again, I'm guessing you may not have seen it. Hunger Games being in the top ten? I cant see how that works. Not having read the book, I cant make a comparison, but as a film it kinda sucked. it was the basic premice for me. I cant see that society being perfectly ok with having a televised event where kids kill each other for the entertainment for the masses. Just watch Battle Royale instead, it works much better.

Pairing Avengers with DKR is a safe choice, I feel, but not one that works. Setting aside all fanboyism (Which I am not, about either Marvel or DC) I had a lot more fun with Avengers. Probably because I was expecting it to suck ass. yes, it had its flaws. It was far too Joss Whedony in places, and the whole second act was kinda pointless, but it was enjoyable. DKR on t'other hand... Even setting aside the knowledge that it would be nowhere near as good as Dark Knight, it just... It was a bloated garbled mess. Gaping plot holes, and even worse, being reduced to a finale that
revolves around a bomb with a ticking clock on it
. In retrospect, I can enjoy it, it does have some good points (mainly Anne Hathaway in that costume), but as a sequel to DK, it sucks.

I will agree with Pitch Perfect though. I only saw it because there was nothing else on that particular week (that I haven't already seen) and I dont know whether it was because I had zero expectations, but i really had fun with it. Despite some glaring cliches and its reverence for that 80s snoozefest the breakfast Club.
 

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2012 was the best year for movies in a long time. I agree with a lot of your picks, plus these:

Looper
A mind-bending time-travel movie with a neat premise and an unexpected level of moral complexity. It was almost creepy how well they made Joseph Gordon-Levitt look like a young Bruce Willis.

Premium Rush
What can I say, I like Gordon-Levitt, and he had a good year. In this little-noticed chase thriller, he plays a bike messenger in Manhattan on the run from a corrupt police detective. The bike stunt work is awesome, the story tight and exciting. If you are into bicycles at all, you should definitely see this movie.

Dredd
Don't mock me. All right, go ahead and mock me. But give this movie a chance. By telling a more economical, day-in-the-life story, it tells more about the screwed-up world of MegaCity One than the bloated mess Stallone made in the 90s, which tried to jam too much of the mythology into its running time ("Ooh, we gotta have a scene in the Cursed Earth!"). Good performances, well-done action scenes and impressive visuals. Fantastic electronic score [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tVLkSzKEMpc], too.
 
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DVS BSTrD said:
Marter said:
I really couldn't understand how Hunger Games could make either list, but then I remember it's Marter I'm dealing with. Also I think you made a mistake is your Raven summary, unless "plot-ice" is some reference I'm not getting.

I'm just guessing, but I think Marter's use of "plotice" was a short hand way of saying "plot police", which I'm guessing is basically something happening for no reason other than to move the story along. That's just pure guessing on my part, though.
 

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The_Waspman said:
No Twilight in the worst list..? Thats kinda surprising, but then again, I'm guessing you may not have seen it.
Twilight wasn't there because it had such a cathartic 20 minutes and the fact that it had the balls to troll its core audience makes me respect it a great deal. Also, I don't inherently hate the Twilight films. I liked all of the odd-numbered ones (to varying degrees, but I wouldn't mind seeing them again).
ThatDarnCoyote said:
2012 was the best year for movies in a long time.
The only one of those that I saw was Looper. It didn't make my Top 10, and therefore doesn't get a mention.
thebobmaster said:
I'm just guessing, but I think Marter's use of "plotice" was a short hand way of saying "plot police", which I'm guessing is basically something happening for no reason other than to move the story along. That's just pure guessing on my part, though.
No, it was just a typo. :p
 

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Marter said:
Shocksplicer said:
The Hunger Games was definitely the worst movie I saw this year
Why?
Mostly, they tried to make an MA15+ or R18+ movie into an M15+ movie, so they couldn't show and kids being killed. Which is what most of the movie was about. In order to cover this up, they just got the cameraman drunk enough that the audience couldn't see what was happening at any point. This alone was enough to make it a bad movie.

In addition to this, the acting was wooden and it was visually very uninteresting.
 

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Shocksplicer said:
Marter said:
Shocksplicer said:
The Hunger Games was definitely the worst movie I saw this year
Why?
Mostly, they tried to make an MA15+ or R18+ movie into an M15+ movie, so they couldn't show and kids being killed. Which is what most of the movie was about. In order to cover this up, they just got the cameraman drunk enough that the audience couldn't see what was happening at any point. This alone was enough to make it a bad movie.

In addition to this, the acting was wooden and it was visually very uninteresting.
I thought they handled it well, I don't think seeing a bunch of kids mutilated would have added to the experience in any way shape or form. This is coming from someone who though the human centipede was quite funny.
 

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KelDG said:
Shocksplicer said:
Marter said:
Shocksplicer said:
The Hunger Games was definitely the worst movie I saw this year
Why?
Mostly, they tried to make an MA15+ or R18+ movie into an M15+ movie, so they couldn't show and kids being killed. Which is what most of the movie was about. In order to cover this up, they just got the cameraman drunk enough that the audience couldn't see what was happening at any point. This alone was enough to make it a bad movie.

In addition to this, the acting was wooden and it was visually very uninteresting.
I thought they handled it well, I don't think seeing a bunch of kids mutilated would have added to the experience in any way shape or form. This is coming from someone who though the human centipede was quite funny.
Regardless of whether or not you want to see kids dying or not, making it so that you literally can't see what is happening at any point is NOT an improvement.
 

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Shocksplicer said:
Regardless of whether or not you want to see kids dying or not, making it so that you literally can't see what is happening at any point is NOT an improvement.
I thought the film was great, though I never read the book, watched a trailer beforehand or read anything about it before seeing it. I just watched it randomly as we missed the showing of what we went to watch. So from my point of view I did not feel it was doing what you are saying, but the again I was watching it as a "hunger games noob", no expectations.

Edit - At no point did I feel I was missing anything due to camera work.
 

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KelDG said:
Shocksplicer said:
Regardless of whether or not you want to see kids dying or not, making it so that you literally can't see what is happening at any point is NOT an improvement.
I thought the film was great, though I never read the book, watched a trailer beforehand or read anything about it before seeing it. I just watched it randomly as we missed the showing of what we went to watch. So from my point of view I did not feel it was doing what you are saying, but the again I was watching it as a "hunger games noob", no expectations.

Edit - At no point did I feel I was missing anything due to camera work.
Well, they specifically made the camerwork bad so that you couldn't see what was happening, so you definitely were.

Regardless, I really hate any movie that has bad camera control, and The Hunger Games had some of the worst.
 

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Shocksplicer said:
Well, they specifically made the camerwork bad so that you couldn't see what was happening, so you definitely were.

Regardless, I really hate any movie that has bad camera control, and The Hunger Games had some of the worst.
We will have to agree to disagree there then, as the only things that I felt I did not see were the kids dying, but I really didn't need to see that and thought they handled it quite well.
 

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Yeah, I don't agree with this list at ALL. There's a few that belong on there, but for the most part, pretty much all these films are forgettable. My top ten are as follows, mind you these are my favorite movies of the year, not necessarily the best.

1. Skyfall: I'm not versed in James Bond films, I've seen a few, but for the most part my knowledge of them is small. Skyfall made me love James Bond -- it was fun, smart, cool, exciting, funny, and the most pleasant surprise -- it was really well made. Most of the time, with an action film franchise like Bond, the filmmaking is lackluster and doesn't do much to elevate the themes or conflict of the film, but Mendes actually crafted this film with careful consideration, and it shows. It was a complete departure from classic Bond, but at the same time, served as the perfect homage to the series.

2. Django Unchained: I saw Django last night so I haven't had enough of time to really mull this film over, but it doesn't matter, because it's already one of the best of the year. As Moviebob said, this is probably most humanistic film Tarantino has ever made. It showcases his classic tropes with over-the-top characters, witty dialogue, and bloody - and I mean BLOODY - shootouts, but at the same time, Tarantino actually had more to say with this film than he has in a long time.

3. Cloud Atlas: This film was a behemoth. I was incredibly surprised at just how it turned out, considering the immense ambition behind it. The actors were all great playing their multiple parts and every separate story was interesting and kept me intrigued. Watching how everything unfolded was one of my favorite experiences at the movies this year.

4. Looper: This movie was perfect proof that action flicks don't have to be mindless dribble with cookie-cutter characters. The characterization was excellent and provided a satisfying emotional climax.

5. The Master: Huhhhh boy, where to start? Either you like Paul Thomas Anderson, or you don't. I love PTA. I love how he never provides interpretations or tells his audience what something means -- he wants THEM to figure it out and that's rare in film now-a-days. The Master was as fascinating as it was challenging. It wasn't a film made for entertainment -- it was a complex work of art. The only reason it's not higher on my list is beCAUSE it was so challenging and satisfied a strictly intellectual itch.

6. Moonrise Kingdom: This was actually my introduction to Wes Anderson, and I am so glad it was. I've now seen a number of his films and Moonrise Kingdom is still my favorite. Anderson has always been great at combining whimsy with very real, almost tragic circumstances and Moonrise is no exception. It's been a long time since I've been able to forget about how the world really works and get lost in a fantasy, but this film gave me that escape.

7. Cabin in the Woods: This is one I can admit to liking for no other reason than it being so much god damn fun. A horror film that slashes genre tropes to gory, bloody pieces while at the same serving as a commentary on the genre itself? Awesome.

8. Safety Not Guaranteed: The indie gem of the year. Well-structured with some very relatable characters and subtle comedy made me enjoy it immensely.

9. Beasts of the Southern Wild: One of the most powerful and poignant films of 2012. Beasts told a wonderful story of loss and understanding from the point of view of an innocent girl named Hushpuppy. Her connection with nature and the poverty-stricken lifestyle of her people is one we should all take something away from, and in a world that's becoming more and more digitized, this is a film to be remembered.

10. Lincoln: This film is last on my list only because I would've liked to see more out of it. Lincoln is great insight into the life of a truly incredible man, but it only focuses on a very small portion of his life as well as a LOT of politics that went on during the abolition of slavery. Personally, I take more interest in the man himself than the politics and ALL of Lincoln's life is a fascinating story, one I would've liked to see in its entirety. Nonetheless, Lincoln is a great film with some great performances and anyone who is interested in American history should love it.
 
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Beffudled Sheep said:
How was Ron Pearlman in it?
Probably because he doesn't judge his projects beforehand.

Billy Zane is in it, too, and is by far the most enjoyable. Perlman only gets, like, 4 relatively scenes.
No I mean how well does he perform? Eh I'll check it out during B-movie week with some friends.
 

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Beffudled Sheep said:
No I mean how well does he perform? Eh I'll check it out during B-movie week with some friends.
Ooooh.

Uh, he's fine, but he's only in, like, four scenes. He gets the plot kickstarted, then disappears, and then turns up again right at the end. He looks like he's having fun, but that's about it. XD