Betrayal in D&D

[Billion Backs]

So, do only Lawful Good gods have paladins serving them? What if you wanted to be a holy warrior serving a god of some alignment aside from LG? If you can't, that's pretty lame, in my opinion.

You play a Cleric.

Or you play another class/race which devotes themselves to their specific deity in question.

But Paladins can only be Lawful Good in D&D. That's how it works.

Unless you play a Paladin of Slaughter, then you can be evil, but you're still bound to certain rules.

Isn't there also some kind of an anti-paladin class?

I forget the name, it's in the books somewhere. Either a prestige class or a basic class for evil-aligned characters. Something like a complete opposite for a paladin, with Smite Good ability, (I think) auras affecting enemies and not friends, and harming abilities.

I'm just not a big fan of paladin-like classes roleplaying-wise.

 

[Amnestic]

So, do only Lawful Good gods have paladins serving them? What if you wanted to be a holy warrior serving a god of some alignment aside from LG? If you can't, that's pretty lame, in my opinion.

You play a Cleric.

Or you play another class/race which devotes themselves to their specific deity in question.

But Paladins can only be Lawful Good in D&D. That's how it works.

Unless you play a Paladin of Slaughter, then you can be evil, but you're still bound to certain rules.

Isn't there also some kind of an anti-paladin class?

I forget the name, it's in the books somewhere. Either a prestige class or a basic class for evil-aligned characters. Something like a complete opposite for a paladin, with Smite Good ability, (I think) auras affecting enemies and not friends, and harming abilities.

I'm just not a big fan of paladin-like classes roleplaying-wise.

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Blackguard. It's a Prestige Class as I recall.

But they're not a Paladin then. If you're your basic Paladin, you're Lawful Good.

Wasn't aware of all this "Paladin of Slaughter" business but I assume it's from 4th Ed or some extra book I've not read yet.

Also tidbit: I picked up the book of Vile what's-it-called and it gave me a paper cut as soon as I did so. If that doesn't tell you how evil it is, I don't know what will.

 

[Billion Backs]

So, do only Lawful Good gods have paladins serving them? What if you wanted to be a holy warrior serving a god of some alignment aside from LG? If you can't, that's pretty lame, in my opinion.

You play a Cleric.

Or you play another class/race which devotes themselves to their specific deity in question.

But Paladins can only be Lawful Good in D&D. That's how it works.

Unless you play a Paladin of Slaughter, then you can be evil, but you're still bound to certain rules.

Isn't there also some kind of an anti-paladin class?

I forget the name, it's in the books somewhere. Either a prestige class or a basic class for evil-aligned characters. Something like a complete opposite for a paladin, with Smite Good ability, (I think) auras affecting enemies and not friends, and harming abilities.

I'm just not a big fan of paladin-like classes roleplaying-wise.

#

Blackguard. It's a Prestige Class as I recall.

But they're not a Paladin then. If you're your basic Paladin, you're Lawful Good.

Wasn't aware of all this "Paladin of Slaughter" business but I assume it's from 4th Ed or some extra book I've not read yet.

Also tidbit: I picked up the book of Vile what's-it-called and it gave me a paper cut as soon as I did so. If that doesn't tell you how evil it is, I don't know what will.

Oh yea, Blackguard.

Actually, I believe there are books for 3.5 edition that "allow" altered paladin classes, yes, even Chaos-aligned paladins.

They just call them differently. I think it's something like "Paladins of Liberty" or "Paladins of Anarchy", something like that.

That applies to a lot of classes, I'ma going to search through scans of my books and see which one it was. But I definitely remember one book that gives all sorts of altered version for different classes...

Will edit in the name of the book in a second.

Edit:
Well, damn, I don't seem able to find it... I'd try harder, but I'm really sleepy. It was something about variant rules... so meh, might as well consider it house rules.

So, ignore my argument if you will.

 

[Eclectic Dreck]

A fallen paladin is simply a fighter. Their holy skills are just knowledges. Sure, playing a fallen paladin seeking redeption (or perhaps descending further into the darkness and becomming the evil equivalent who's name I forget). My point was simply that the Paladin in question acted in such a way that this act alone would be sufficient cause to be cast out of his order.

sorry for the derail, btw...

All good points, sir. Not saying you're wrong or anything, just that I disagree with the restrictions as they're set down in the rules. Just not very fun, imho. Maybe I'm just not cut out to play a paladin.

So, do only Lawful Good gods have paladins serving them? What if you wanted to be a holy warrior serving a god of some alignment aside from LG? If you can't, that's pretty lame, in my opinion.

There's an evil equivlant, but I don't know the name of the class.

I'm not certain they are restricted to lawful good gods, but it would make sense given everything about them indicates the MUST pursue this course at every turn, even if it isn't smart to do so.

 

[Dr Commie]

I've been a part of an evil campaign for a little while now, and just recently, my character has decided to betray the party, unbeknown to the rest of the group. Since I'm working against the group I'm in, I wanted to know what type of cool ways you guys think I should sabotage the group. I'm really interested in any interesting ways or methods you guys can come up with.

Here's the story so far:

My character is a Drow sorcerer named Solarum. Basically, we've been serving this god-like being called Karathanos, trying to do help him rise up and reclaim his rule over the world. Recently, however, we found out that Karathanos doesn't want to rule the world, he wants to destroy it out of vengence, thus the group decided to betray him in an effort to save the world we want to conquer. Solarum has been serving Karathanos his whole life, and has decided that he will continue to serve him by acting as a spy and sabotage the group within.

That's the summary of it, if I went into real detail, we'd probably be here all day. So what do you guys think I should do? Think of something really creative!

EDIT: Stop telling me to kill the healer or act like an idiot in battle. That's neither creative nor helpful.

You could always do what my friend did, pay an assassin to kill them. It was an interesting choice haha.

As for what you should do, I think maybe degrading their armor and supplies? Something along those lines so they will fail in combat. Mess with the mages spell book if there is a mage. That is just a small thing and would perhaps result in their deaths.

 

[The Random NPC]

So, do only Lawful Good gods have paladins serving them? What if you wanted to be a holy warrior serving a god of some alignment aside from LG? If you can't, that's pretty lame, in my opinion.

You play a Cleric.

Or you play another class/race which devotes themselves to their specific deity in question.

But Paladins can only be Lawful Good in D&D. That's how it works.

Unless you play a Paladin of Slaughter, then you can be evil, but you're still bound to certain rules.

Isn't there also some kind of an anti-paladin class?

I forget the name, it's in the books somewhere. Either a prestige class or a basic class for evil-aligned characters. Something like a complete opposite for a paladin, with Smite Good ability, (I think) auras affecting enemies and not friends, and harming abilities.

I'm just not a big fan of paladin-like classes roleplaying-wise.

#

Blackguard. It's a Prestige Class as I recall.

But they're not a Paladin then. If you're your basic Paladin, you're Lawful Good.

Wasn't aware of all this "Paladin of Slaughter" business but I assume it's from 4th Ed or some extra book I've not read yet.

Also tidbit: I picked up the book of Vile what's-it-called and it gave me a paper cut as soon as I did so. If that doesn't tell you how evil it is, I don't know what will.

Oh yea, Blackguard.

Actually, I believe there are books for 3.5 edition that "allow" altered paladin classes, yes, even Chaos-aligned paladins.

They just call them differently. I think it's something like "Paladins of Liberty" or "Paladins of Anarchy", something like that.

That applies to a lot of classes, I'ma going to search through scans of my books and see which one it was. But I definitely remember one book that gives all sorts of altered version for different classes...

Will edit in the name of the book in a second.

Edit:
Well, damn, I don't seem able to find it... I'd try harder, but I'm really sleepy. It was something about variant rules... so meh, might as well consider it house rules.

So, ignore my argument if you will.

It's in Unearthed Arcana, they allow CG, CE, and LE paladins. However, technically you can play as the standard paladin with an evil god as your deity. Or no deity at all.

 

[LogicNProportion]

Work behind the scenes with the DM.

When it's time for the group to level up or work on choices, have them pick options that will make them less effective in foiling the god's plan.

A friend and I did this once, secretly becoming corrupted and killing the good paladin and cleric in the group in the later part of the game so we could gain immortality as liches without being stopped.

 

[starhaven]

i had a char go insane once that was really fun to play theres somthing almost orgasmic about doing what ever u want

ran in the a galatuns cube once (spelling wrong) u know then big green squres that just eat everything and my char thought that if he fed it, it would go away so i picked up the halfling in my party and tossed him in

 

[Miumaru]

Find ways to become more powerful. Find use in others until they are useless. I had a villian type character who always was looking for ways to bolster his power, including obtaining a sword of pure shadow from a foolish mage. Also always making allies in the dark. Just have to bide your time and get strong enough until a chance opens up to stop them. And dont Bond villian it. See that they die. (or whatever)