Big Mom One Piece Discussion
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I don't watch one piece anymore, but I irregularly keep up with the manga
I thought the scene was pretty neat I guess?
Musical segments aren't awful every now and again
I don't watch one piece anymore, but I irregularly keep up with the manga
I thought the scene was pretty neat I guess?
Musical segments aren't awful every now and again
'twas entertaining. Doesn't seem that much of change of what Luffy has gone up against before though, weird design wise. Hope she has some interesting abilities.
So has this shonen done the 'super saiyan pirate 5000 level unreachable by normies' thing like the others?
So has this shonen done the 'super saiyan pirate 5000 level unreachable by normies' thing like the others?
She does have quite the powerful ability, almost overpowered even.Nazulu said:
And as for SSJ9000 levels of wtf, power scaling, yes, Luffy has an equivalent new form that has been shown in action in the anime. Gear 4 Luffy is stupid strong. Emphasis on stupid, as it looks quite ridiculous with a hint of bad ass.
As for talking about Big Mom...wow, that's a hyuuuge *****. I read the manga so anything I talk about would be a spoiler, but hey, you gotta respect someone who's made it in the world as far as she has in search of her dream. A world renown pirate trying to build a country that can support her ever growing family as she tries to unite all the races under her flag. While also being a crazy obese monster obsessed with sweets.
I have not touched One Piece in years. Similar to shounen like Bleach and Naruto, the anime or manga drags on for way too long. It's why I avoid the genre.
Well if you needed inspiration for a new set of villains, the works of Lewis Carroll are not a bad place to start. Big Mom looks like a reimagining of the Queen of Hearts and we do see some characters that look somewhat like the Mad Hatter and the White Rabbit. I wonder if any of the swords that they are using is the Vorpal Sword?
Looks good, Though I don't think Luffy's going to defeat her anytime soon. Oda's been building the Four Emperors for too long to defeat them so easily.
If Big Mom's theme is fantasy and Alice in Wonderland, then what is Kaido's and Shank's? Kaido has this mongol horde-vibe, but I could be wrong.
If Big Mom's theme is fantasy and Alice in Wonderland, then what is Kaido's and Shank's? Kaido has this mongol horde-vibe, but I could be wrong.
Sorry, but the farthest I've gotten in the anime is the end of the Thriller Bark arc so I can't exactly weigh in very much on recent stuff. Although, while we're on the subject of One Piece, I recently saw someone suggest that one way to think of it is as a long running table top RPG where the GM tends to let the players get away with all kinds of crazy BS.
No not powerful, interesting. Any idiot can write up powerful moves, but something unique is what got me into anime in the first place. I'm not a fan of DBZ for this reason. Something more like the Mangekyou Sharingan or many of Orichimaru's bullshit skills from Naruto. If you don't like Naruto I'll list others if you'd like.DeadProxy said:
Not exactly thrilled to hear it does the ridiculous power scaling too as I always saw One Piece as the most grounded. I do know why they usually go this direction though, and looking up the Gear 4 form it looks Ok. I thought he'd become more tall and lanky, but whatever.
I think One Piece does technically do power scaling, but in a different way.Nazulu said:
The ENEMIES constantly scale up in power, but the main characters (generally) stay the same.
Once the team reaches the new world, this starts becoming more apparent. Luffy's battles start becoming more difficult and less possible to win through strength.
Then they get to Saboady Archipelago where the show really demonstrates how ridiculously powerful the top of the list is; Luffy encounters several enemies that he is completely incapable of defeating in any way until the time-skip/training arc.
It's still questionable whether he can beat some of those enemies post time-skip.
Luffy really hasn't gotten any stronger since the end of the time-skip, Doflamingo is the only one that required him to go all out. Everyone else has been a push-over.
Then they get to Saboady Archipelago where the show really demonstrates how ridiculously powerful the top of the list is; Luffy encounters several enemies that he is completely incapable of defeating in any way until the time-skip/training arc.
It's still questionable whether he can beat some of those enemies post time-skip.
Luffy really hasn't gotten any stronger since the end of the time-skip, Doflamingo is the only one that required him to go all out. Everyone else has been a push-over.
I suspect that things will even out once they really start fighting the emperors.
I'm not going to deny that it's still shonen, but after a certain point, it's been a lot better on the whole power-scaling thing.
Plus unlike DBZ, it doesn't come out of nowhere. We've known the emperors were ridiculously strong for like 400 episodes, and its established that the strongest people are farther through the grand line.
The shows pacing also avoids the feel that enemies are step-laddering in strength.
These special forms always use a lot energy don't they.RaikuFA said:
I went to look it up in action and what I found was the most DBZ punch ever. lol
Donflamingo doesn't look the least bit intimidating either, what a shame. I'll give him a pass if does something really evil in the show ^^
Honestly, it doesn't seem different. What I was hoping for is for them to outsmart these super strong enemy's, and I don't mean just once in an entire arc, like most of the way. DBZ has them throw around super moves for awhile, seeing both sides constantly get hammered, and then maybe once in a full moon we'd see them pull off a clever maneuver, and I hate waiting for that one moment.Nuuu said:
I don't want to start watching One Piece again (a really really long show) to find that I'm just waiting for that one clever bit of writing again. I stopped watching most of these never ending shonen because they all eventually do this.
Hope I don't sound like an ass but it is a real concern.
I still like that video though, it does make want to give it another chance, but I'd rather just skip to the examples of the villains being monsters, then straight to them getting their ass kicked and save heaps of time. What do you think?
The "outsmartyness" of one piece has been showing up more so in their set up of the conflicts. How they got to the point of King Kong Luffy and Puppeteer Doflimingo fighting across the skies is pretty great, if an extremely long process. It got nothing on Jojo's Bizarre Adventure though, if you've never watched that series, I strongly recommend it, at least stardust crusaders and beyond.Nazulu said:
As for skipping set up and getting to the meat of the show's battles and characters, I give the recommendation I always give. Read the manga, and watch the arcs/battles/moments that interest you. I've been current on One Piece for almost 10 years or something, and I know damn well that this series is too long to just jump into from Episode 1. You could read the manga from the last point you remember, and be caught up in a couple weeks, (we're talking over 850 total chapters now) while watching the show would take actual months of non-stop absorption. And the show has some issues wasting time with all the times they linger on shots or just pad time.
All that being said though, the music in the emotional or intense moments is usually really good, and really makes some of the scenes that much better. I've gone "wow, that's sad" in the manga to actually crying watching the show cause the music is yanking on my heart.
To a non-one piece reader/watcher that video is just going to seem lame, if not downright silly. The entire threat of that character comes from world knowledge and years of hyping.
As for the anime: I stopped watching it years ago. After the timeskip they have clearly gotten far too close to the source material and the quality had plummeted.
The one piece anime needs 2-3 years of hiatus (or filler) minimum before resuming the canon story. But its toei's cash cow so they are going to ride that thing in to the ground far further than they have done and will burn the corpse.
To non-reader/watchers
That thing up there?
That's the *current arc*. That the author is *still writing*.
So inevitably its going to be stretched out with filler and poor pacing and endless flashbacks and struggles between single punches in the manga that take up 5 minutes of grunting and sweating.
As for the anime: I stopped watching it years ago. After the timeskip they have clearly gotten far too close to the source material and the quality had plummeted.
The one piece anime needs 2-3 years of hiatus (or filler) minimum before resuming the canon story. But its toei's cash cow so they are going to ride that thing in to the ground far further than they have done and will burn the corpse.
To non-reader/watchers
That thing up there?
That's the *current arc*. That the author is *still writing*.
So inevitably its going to be stretched out with filler and poor pacing and endless flashbacks and struggles between single punches in the manga that take up 5 minutes of grunting and sweating.