Biggest plothole in gaming?

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letfireraindown

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canadamus_prime said:
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Psycho Cat Industries said:
How do game characters live without eating?
Why do game characters never have to go to the bathroom?
Because making the player stop and make the character go to the bathroom/eat/sleep etc. would break the flow of most games, not to mention would be boring and tedious.
That's why the only institute such actions in "hardcore" modes like in New Vegas. You want the full RP experience, there's a niche for you.
 

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letfireraindown said:
canadamus_prime said:
artanis_neravar said:
Psycho Cat Industries said:
How do game characters live without eating?
Why do game characters never have to go to the bathroom?
Because making the player stop and make the character go to the bathroom/eat/sleep etc. would break the flow of most games, not to mention would be boring and tedious.
That's why the only institute such actions in "hardcore" modes like in New Vegas. You want the full RP experience, there's a niche for you.
Yes, exactly. Although personally I prefer Role-Playing games where sleeping and eating are gameplay mechanics, like sleeping and eating restore your health, for example.
 

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Pohaturon said:
i'm surprised that no-one mentioned that one plot hole in ME2 when all squad members capable of combat were stuffed into a shuttle that could only carry 3 people up till then
This always bothered me, too. But, I suppose it was made that way just to make you have some urgency to tackle the endgame then and there - as opposed to just running around with side missions some more.

I also have a theory on this that rationalizes the entire teammate size and shuttle thing from the ME universe. So you can only have a fire team consisting of 3 members in ME, but what if you, Commander Shepard, are just leading one assault team to the high import objectives/targets. I have always imagined that the rest of your squad comes down with you in the shuttle and splits into other teams (which are responsible for securing a perimeter, or doing other various recon or combat duties. And that's why they all get XP when they aren't in the Shepard fire team and why they all leave together) while you go do the 'important stuff.' I mean...it's plausible right?
 

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gyllybug said:
Resident Evil 4:

How did the Merchant get about? And what happened to him when I blew up the island? AND WHY WASN'T HE IN RESI 5 GODDAMNIT?! ;_;
Tunnels

Also you blew him up.
 

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Kinshar said:
Megaman/Rockman. Why does he toss out all the weapons from the robot masters between games? Or why not kill Wily after the first escape and devastation wrought upon the world in the second game?
Ever watch the cartoon? Megaman doesn't seem to care for human life that much out side of his own family. I remeber and episode where Dr. W attacked him with a Ferris wheel full of people at an amusement park and Mega blew up every car on it without batting an eye. X fells bad for people mega does not.
 

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Just completed Borderlands and gotta say the plot hole is pretty massive.

You arrive on Pandora with the expectation of finding wealth you hear a rumour about The Vault. You then get a message from some Guardian Angel who confirms The Vault and basically sets you off on the quest for it. Until you step in no one has come anywhere near finding The Vault to the extent that many think it is just a rumour. You finally find The Vault which gets opened only to release some massive beast that was imprisoned in it because it wanted to destroy the universe. Instead of appearing to you right at the start of the game and confirming the vault exists and then proceeding to guide you through the quest, if the guardian angel had just not said a thing you would have never found it and given up like everyone else...


...of course it would have made for a less interesting game.
 

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Okay, This one still boggles my mind.

In Ocarina of Time: The great Doku tree chose Link to save his life and to save Hyrule from Ganondorf, Here is the thing, WHY HIM ?!

What makes him so special? why not chose a well trained warrior with a lot of combat experience ? and Why Link didn't have a fairy before ?
 

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Mykin said:
The biggest plot hole I've seen was in the ending of the Allied campaign in Red Alert. The guy that stuffed a sock in Stalin's mouth and put a huge rock over him? WHO THE HECK WAS THAT GUY?!
Stavros (one of the allied high commanders). He looks a bit different without the uniform, but you can easily tell from the accent.

What I always wondered, is why Einstein didn't just go back in time and erase Stalin? I mean, the only good thing Stalin did was help defeat Hitler, if you haven't got a Hitler, you don't need a Stalin.
 

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Sands Of Time, eh?
No surprise there. You want plot holes? You go for the game with time traveling:

!SPOILER WARNING!

Jak & Daxter series
Jak was hidden in time: born in the future, send to the past and brought back to the future again. However, we find out Jak is actually Mar, the founder of Haven City. So, logically, shouldn't he have gone back to the past?

Final Fantasy VIII
The whole 'time compression' thing in and on itself is just a huge hole.

TimeSplitters
They had a few noodlescratchers as well, especially Future Prefect. The whole concept of having a playable TimeSplitter and a playable Corporal Heart. And then there's Cortez who keeps encountering himself, but creates paradoxes in which something is given that begs the question where it came from in the first place. Although it's not really bothersome, since it's all in good fun.

And as far as non-time traveling stories go: the Final Fantasy VII Compendium, the Tekken series and pretty much every Nintendo game ever.
 

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Heavy Rain, I don't need to go into a lot of detail, there are a lot of plot holes, but I still love this game.

[spoiler/]Why is Ethan making Origami in his black outs, and talking about drowning the rain? It makes no sense and there is no explanation[/spoiler]
 

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Alright I'm going to talk about InFamous and it's plot holes.

Plothole 1 - Kessler/Cole
Kessler went back i time to make his former self stronger, yet in his original timeline he developed his powers naturally. In his original timeline his future self would have traveled back in time to help him because time is an instantaneous phenomena. Ergo he would never have developed his powers naturally.

Plothole 2 - The Beast
Assuming that time travel would work how SuckerPunch has portrayed in InFamous, The Beast would have never originally existed. John was a conduit but he wasn't developed at all. The reason he becomes much more powerful is because of the second Ray Sphere Explosion in InFamous 1. However, Kessler created the Ray Sphere when he traveled back in time. Therefore Kessler created The Beast. In Kessler's original timeline his future self didn't travel back in time so The Beast wouldn't have existed.
On top of this Kessler seemed to know John was The Beast as he told him that he "Would do great things." That means that Kessler purposefully didn't destroy John right when he saw him.
Also John wouldn't have been killed by the Ray Sphere because he was a conduit. Take Nix for example.

Plothole 3 - The RFI
The RFI is designed to extract Ray Field Energy. Ray Field Energy is what makes Conduits more powerful. (John was exposed to it by the 2nd Ray Sphere Explosion in InFamous 1, creating The Beast.) By extracting Ray Field Energy from their bodies, Conduits allegedly die. This wouldn't happen. The Conduit Gene is not:

A.) Required for a human to live
B.) Destroyed when Ray Field Energy is extracted from it.

Think of the Conduit Gene as a light bulb with Ray Field Energy as its battery. When a light bulb loses power, does it explode? The answer is no. It simply goes out. The Conduit Gene is the same way, where without Ray Field Energy, the user has no powers.
SUMMARY OF PLOTHOLE 3: The Conduits would just be stripped of their powers, not killed. Then they would have to gather more Ray Field Energy to gain their powers back.

Plothole 4 - The Plague.
In InFamous 2, they go into extensive detail on "The Plague". They say that The Ray Field Energy channeled by Ray Sphere Usage cause the radiation poisoning. However, The Ray Sphere's purpose is to channel neuroelectric energy into one person. (The High Concentration creates Ray Field Energy) So therefore, all of the Ray Field Energy would have been channeled into the user of The Ray Sphere. (Cole or Bertrand and partly Nix and John)so that means that there wouldn't be any Radiation to poison people because it would be inside of the Conduits involved.

Plothole 5 - The Second Ray Sphere Explosion
Cole follows The First Sons out to a dock where they keep The Ray Sphere. He manages to set it off regardless of Karma choices. Everyone but Cole is killed. This shouldn't have happened. John was a conduit, and The First Sons is a group that only accepts Conduits into its Ranks, meaning all of The First Sons are Conduits. Therefore everyone involved in The Second Ray Sphere Explosion shouldn't have been effected whatsoever. Cole would have nobody to drain Neuroelectric Energy from, and John and The First Sons would have not been harmed by The Ray Sphere.

Long Story Short: INFAMOUS 2 SUX
 

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For Kingdom Hearts Plotholes, Play Birth By Sleep. It fixes all plotholes in the series. Kingdom hearts has no plotholes anymore.
 

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Sonic Adventure 2 in the last story... spoilers for those who haven't played it and intend to.

A recording of Gerald's last words before his execution are played to the world from the ARK after Eggman places the Chaos Emeralds in the Eclipse Cannon... but how did he set it up so that the video would play and let people know they were doomed if he was... you know... killed immediately after?
 

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ScrabbitRabbit said:
Sonic Adventure 2 in the last story... spoilers for those who haven't played it and intend to.

A recording of Gerald's last words before his execution are played to the world from the ARK after Eggman places the Chaos Emeralds in the Eclipse Cannon... but how did he set it up so that the video would play and let people know they were doomed if he was... you know... killed immediately after?
Well, Gerald was a genius.

Perhaps he had a computer program record the entire interview just before his execution, then beam the recording back to the ARK and automatically set it to play when somebody fully activated the Eclipse Cannon years later.

That's my theory, anyway.
 

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zombiejoe said:
Heavy Rain, I don't need to go into a lot of detail, there are a lot of plot holes, but I still love this game.

[spoiler/]Why is Ethan making Origami in his black outs, and talking about drowning the rain? It makes no sense and there is no explanation[/spoiler]
I can explain this:

Heavy Rain was originally going to have a few supernatural elements in it, Ehtan was going to be Physcic and his 'Blackouts' would have been a Harry-Potter-style mental backlash stemming from a Physcic link between him and the Origami Killer that was formed due to him being there when Jason was hit by a car. The area he wakes up in after the Blackouts is where the Killer's brother drowned in the rain.
 

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Z of the Na said:
ScrabbitRabbit said:
Sonic Adventure 2 in the last story... spoilers for those who haven't played it and intend to.

A recording of Gerald's last words before his execution are played to the world from the ARK after Eggman places the Chaos Emeralds in the Eclipse Cannon... but how did he set it up so that the video would play and let people know they were doomed if he was... you know... killed immediately after?
Well, Gerald was a genius.

Perhaps he had a computer program record the entire interview just before his execution, then beam the recording back to the ARK and automatically set it to play when somebody fully activated the Eclipse Cannon years later.

That's my theory, anyway.
Guys, guys. Stop and think about this... we're trying to analyze a Sonic game's story. I think I found our problem.

And again, what's with all the necromancy?