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Thomas Lyons said:
I still disagree with how Yahtzee received the Halo franchise as a whole (particularly in his Halo 3 review). He boldfacedly admitted that he hadn't played the first two games and then complained about the story. For me, the best part about those games was the story. It managed to grab hold of me as I fought on to ensure the very survival of the species and indeed every species in the galaxy. He also complained that everything it did had been done before, but then it is worth remember that this is a sequel to a game the completely redefined a genre.

I suppose you are perfectly within your rights to complain how so many games have tried to ape it, but many people have tried to ape Yahtzee too, and while none of them has been as good as Yahtzee, I certainly don't blame Yahtzee for it.

Halo 2 and Halo 3 were absolutely necessary to the plot line of Halo: Combat Evolved. In Halo 2, they expanded on the concept by introducing the struggle within the Covenant that invoked an underlying perspective on racism. The Covenant's religion also neatly mirrored the conflict we find ourselves in in today's society wherein we are fighting people who have such devotion to their set of beliefs that they will kill themselves and all others around them to make their point.

I won't even try to hold up the multiplayer since I find myself in a similar position of not being able to effectively play multiplayer due to connection problems. For me it is just poor rural infrastructure and for Yahtzee it is because he lives on an isolated continent with the nearest English speaking country being across the world's largest ocean. I understand why he doesn't like multiplayer.

For what it's worth, when I did get a few friends in the room with a console, I found Halo 3's multiplayer ideal for an all-night Mountain Dew fuel jamboree. I loved the "zombie mod" and how the physics parameters of the game could be manipulated to turn what would otherwise be a boring game of tag into a crazy slaughterfest in which I had energy sword wielding zombies screaming towards me at 300% speed with the gravity for them turned way down, but with the inability to survive anything more serious than a spitball.

I got the idea that Yahtzee somewhat regretted his opinion of the Halo franchise around the time Reach came out and his criticisms seemed much more reasonable, but for me, this is still a black mark on his otherwise stellar record.
Couldn't have said it better myself. In his review, it almost seems like he is trying to not like it, simply because so many others use elements from Halo in their own games that the elements feel over-done.

And I play the zombie mod the same way you do. It really is the best way to enjoy infection.
 

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SwimmingRock said:
When NoobToob said you shouldn't buy Nier. Tied for game of the year 2010 with Deadly Premonition, as far as I'm concerned.
NoobToob are the best game reviewers in the business, as far as I'm concerned. I haven't played Nier though.
 

FalloutJack

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Well, when Yahtzee made his review on Ghostbusters, I took it in stride because he's entertaining. However, my thinking was that his copy of the game was defective, since I didn't have nearly half the problems he did.
 

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SillyBear said:
SwimmingRock said:
When NoobToob said you shouldn't buy Nier. Tied for game of the year 2010 with Deadly Premonition, as far as I'm concerned.
NoobToob are the best game reviewers in the business, as far as I'm concerned. I haven't played Nier though.
Oh, no doubt about that. I love their show and find their reviews very usefull, but that doesn't mean I have to agree with them. If anything, their review convinced me to buy Nier, because they discussed the game rather than only saying it's not worth the money. What they mentioned sounded like something I wanted to play. That, to me, is what makes a review(er) good: giving enough information to decide for yourself whether or not to buy it.
 

lacktheknack

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Yahtzee: "Mirror's Edge is an 8-hour fecal waterslide."

Me: "Mirror's Edge is my favorite game. Period."
 

Sparkytheyetti

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Most of the people that wrote reviews about Tron:Legacy. Yes the original Tron bomb. But it had a cult following. Legacy did better in its first weekend than Tron the time it was out. Personally it excited me. I thought it couldent look any more beautiful. Sure story is bare at times, overall i thought it was one of the best id seen in a while.
 

artanis_neravar

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Marter said:
I completely disagree with <url=http://rogerebert.suntimes.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20100414/REVIEWS/100419986/1023>Roger Ebert's review of <url=http://www.escapistmagazine.com/forums/read/326.253962-2-50-Reviews-Kick-Ass-2010>Kick-Ass.

That's the best example I can think of.
Having just read that review, I agree

OT: Any of Yahtzee's reviews ever, I mean I find them funny, but I disagree with almost all of them, I feel that he dislikes story in games.
Any review stating that Scott Pilgrim was awful, terrible, worst movie ever, ect
 

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I'm a major fan of John McFerrin's music review site, though I highly disagree with his assessment with King Crimson's Lizard and Islands albums. In the case of the former, I didn't find it to be that listenable, while the latter contains a favorite of mine with "Sailor's Tale".
 

Mark Flanagan

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The whole MovieBob Fast 5 debacle. I read comics, like marvel movies and play PnP rpgs but by gum because I like Fast and the Furious movies I'm suddenly a massive douche?

sigh, Stay classy Bob.

Also the Times (uk) review of Sucker Punch as they have this annoying habit of sending jaded middle aged people to watch movies aimed at 20 somethings.
 

artanis_neravar

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curintedery said:
Scott Pilgrim was one of the worst films I have ever seen, so I disagree with moviebob there. And also, I thoroughly enjoyed Mirror's Edge, so I disagree with Yahtzee there. I don't really look at other reviews, I'm rather slack :p.
Ladette said:
I didn't think Scott Pilgrim was very good. I also very much enjoyed the film Bob was so quick to blame for his Yaoi-esqu obssession's flop, The Expendables. It was a stupid action movie, but it was a fun stupid action movie in the same vein as Commando.

Also i'm getting hit with a captcha every 3-5 posts. It's rather annoying.

Snake Plissken said:
It's Moviebob's love of Scott Pilgrim, easily. I enjoy Moviebob, and have been following him even before he was on the Escapist, but Scott Pilgrim is seriously one of the WORST films I've seen in the last decade. Hated 95% of that fucking movie.
Can I ask why you didn't like Scott Pilgrim? (not trying to cause a debate I a legitimately curious)
 

kane.malakos

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The only major disagreement I have with Yahtzee was Bioshock 2. One of the worst games of the year, my ass. It might not have been necessary, but it was fun, and had a good story.
 

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Yahtzee: "Sequels are bad."

Make a list of games that defined and refined genre conventions and game design techniques...basically, the most important games in gaming history. A large portion of them--probably the majority--would be sequels.
 

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artanis_neravar said:
curintedery said:
Scott Pilgrim was one of the worst films I have ever seen, so I disagree with moviebob there. And also, I thoroughly enjoyed Mirror's Edge, so I disagree with Yahtzee there. I don't really look at other reviews, I'm rather slack :p.
Ladette said:
I didn't think Scott Pilgrim was very good. I also very much enjoyed the film Bob was so quick to blame for his Yaoi-esqu obssession's flop, The Expendables. It was a stupid action movie, but it was a fun stupid action movie in the same vein as Commando.

Also i'm getting hit with a captcha every 3-5 posts. It's rather annoying.

Snake Plissken said:
It's Moviebob's love of Scott Pilgrim, easily. I enjoy Moviebob, and have been following him even before he was on the Escapist, but Scott Pilgrim is seriously one of the WORST films I've seen in the last decade. Hated 95% of that fucking movie.
Can I ask why you didn't like Scott Pilgrim? (not trying to cause a debate I a legitimately curious)
Yes, and I'll refrain from the "It's all hipster douchebag crap," argument.

I found the music to be awful, I found the retro-gaming chic to be pandering, I can't identify with the nerdy awkwardness that IS Scott Pilgrim, I generally don't enjoy films about "getting the girl" (unless it's High Fidelity), and I dislike Michael Cera as an actor.

I'm 25, have lived with my girlfriend for years, not socially awkward or inept, and grew up playing "retro" games before they were considered "retro". What is there for someone like me to identify with in that film?
 

artanis_neravar

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Snake Plissken said:
Yes, and I'll refrain from the "It's all hipster douchebag crap," argument.

I found the music to be awful, I found the retro-gaming chic to be pandering, I can't identify with the nerdy awkwardness that IS Scott Pilgrim, I generally don't enjoy films about "getting the girl" (unless it's High Fidelity), and I dislike Michael Cera as an actor.

I'm 25, have lived with my girlfriend for years, not socially awkward or inept, and grew up playing "retro" games before they were considered "retro". What is there for someone like me to identify with in that film?
Thank you that was exactly the kind of answer I was looking for
 

Mark Flanagan

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believer258 said:
When I disagreed with a critic?

Titan A.E. was an amazing movie. What do you mean, "plot holes?" Hey, look, pretty animation! Did you see those ice rings, man, they were freaking beautiful!
Yes! A million times yes!
 

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SillyBear said:
SwimmingRock said:
When NoobToob said you shouldn't buy Nier. Tied for game of the year 2010 with Deadly Premonition, as far as I'm concerned.
NoobToob are the best game reviewers in the business, as far as I'm concerned. I haven't played Nier though.
Within seconds of visiting their website and checking out the Brink review, I noticed they say at the beginning that Bethesda developed Brink. It wouldn't surprise me if they think NCSoft is developing Guild Wars 2. It's a rather big fail if you mess up something as easy as distinguishing the developer and publisher. I won't completely ignore their website, but they certainly haven't made a good first impression for me.
 

artanis_neravar

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jakefongloo said:
MovieBob and his review of The book if Eli. Just scanning through the comments of how many people didn't go see it because of his opinion that a man's unrelenting faith could drive a story still kinda makes my eye twitch.

Also his review of Expendables I really enjoyed that movie.
I just watched that review and I agree with you, I loved the move (for me it had a very Fallout vibe to it) and I felt that word of god would be a great motivator for someone to walk across a nuclear wasteland