Bioshock Infinite Questions (SPOILERS!)

[Catfood220]

Ok, so something that has bugged me from the first time I saw it. If Elizabeth can open tears and walk through, why doesn't she just open a tear and go to Paris. We see her open a tear to Paris the first time we see her, so why hasn't she escaped that way. Ok, so the tower is the ony thing she knows but things she says throughout the game suggest she was sick of being trapped there. So why not just open a tear and go.

It would probably take forever for Comstocks goons to find her if she was smart enough to change her name and appearence, even Songbird would struggle to find her.

 

[MrHide-Patten]

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hearing the Songbird screech in the original Bioshock blew my freakin' mind.

Wait, what?? When/where?

It happens in Sander Cohens "level" when the guys playing on a piano and Sanders is getting pissed at him amd around when he says "I'm trying" you can hear it. There are plenty of Youtube videos that show it off.

If Elizabeth can open tears and walk through, why doesn't she just open a tear and go to Paris. We see her open a tear to Paris the first time we see her, so why hasn't she escaped that way.

While she can open them and see through them, she can't go through ones to anywhere that isn't Columbia because of the Siphon. Whilst it was restraining her powers it was also stopping her from leaving.

 

[Nomanslander]

The following is a really good, and lengthy, explanation of what happens before, during, and after the events of the game.

Lots of reading here, but I highly recommend reading through it. It should answer all your questions.

Spoiler: Part 1

Spoiler: Part 2

Spoiler: Part 3

This is easily the most helpful and coherent explanations I've seen so far! Thank you!

Same here.

Ken Levine must have spent some time formulating this. Wouldn't surprise me if he'd be plagued with float chart nightmares afterwards. lol

:O

 

[DarkRyter]

I don't have much to actually answer your questions, but I'd like to thank you for actually asking for clarification then jumping on the chance to yell "PLOT HOLE" like many of this game's detractors.

 

[Ragsnstitches]

Spoiler

hearing the Songbird screech in the original Bioshock blew my freakin' mind.

Wait, what?? When/where?

Don't listen to the hype, it's not true. The sound is very distant, but it's nothing more then the ambient noise that occurs in that zone, coupled with the low key music that compliments the scene.

Rapture creaked and groaned due to it being deep under water. People are just filling in details due to the "revelations" in infinite, despite the fact infinite wasn't even a concept during Bioshocks development.

 

[MrHide-Patten]

It happens in Sander Cohens "level" when the guys playing on a piano and Sanders is getting pissed at him amd around when he says "I'm trying" you can hear it. There are plenty of Youtube videos that show it off.

That's actually been debunked.

http://bioshock.wikia.com/wiki/Fleet_Hall#Behind_the_Scenes

It's part of the ambient background noise in Fleet Hall.
You can hear that sound REPEATEDLY throughout that part of the level, because the background ambient track loops.

The fact that it sounds similar to the Songbird screech is purely coincidence.

Ah poo-ey, that's no fun.

 

[Chrono212]

It happens in Sander Cohens "level" when the guys playing on a piano and Sanders is getting pissed at him amd around when he says "I'm trying" you can hear it. There are plenty of Youtube videos that show it off.

That's actually been debunked.

http://bioshock.wikia.com/wiki/Fleet_Hall#Behind_the_Scenes

It's part of the ambient background noise in Fleet Hall.
You can hear that sound REPEATEDLY throughout that part of the level, because the background ambient track loops.

The fact that it sounds similar to the Songbird screech is purely coincidence.

As a result of his closeness to Ryan, Cohen became a notable enemy of another singer/actress, Anna Culpepper, who called him "Ryan's songbird".

[h4]"Anna Culpepper, who called him 'Ryan's songbird'."[/h4]
[HEADING=3]"who called him 'Ryan's songbird'"[/HEADING]
[HEADING=2]"'Ryan's songbird'"[/HEADING]
[HEADING=1]"songbird"[/HEADING]

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But I jest.
I just got the Bioshock Infinite art book and Songbird went through a bunch of different iterations, some of which weren't even birds. That means that it would be impossible for them to have thought so far in advance back in 2007.

It's still a cool coincidence through.

 

[chikusho]

1. I actually have (what I think is) my own take on this. My theory is that there is actually only one universe at any given time. All the other infinite realities dont' actually exist until somebody observes them. Think about Shrodinger's Cat. While the box is closed, the cat is both dead AND alive, until someone opens the box and observes it in either state. At this point, one of the realities collapses, leaving the cat in the state it's observed in. The Lutece's essentially discovered a way to view the cat in both states simultaneously. Elizabeth's powers take this one step further. She can not only see the cat in both states, but choose which state will collapse, and which one will become "real". She can see that cat as both alive and dead, and choose which state she prefers. This how the "wish fulfillment" part of it works. She's not choosing from an infinite amount of realities, she's just kind of creating the particular universe that she wants. Until the siphon is destroyed, then she actually IS seeing every single possible reality.(I can only assume this, since she finds Rapture) She's basically a god at that point.

This... Doesn't hold up. The multiple realities were discovered when both Luteces (separated only by 1 chromosome) manipulated the same particle at the same time in different worlds. They would both have had to simultaneously exist in order for that to happen.
Not to mention the other realities that Fink and the Luteces observed. Are you saying they created those universes as well? Universes with conditions that they couldn't possibly have known about before seeing them?

Also, Schrödingers Cat was intended to point out how ridiculous the quantum mechanics theory is when applied to the real world.