BioWare Defends Mass Effect 3 Launch-Day DLC

[Daystar Clarion]

Zeel here's how the budget is

Main games budget - to be used during the bnase games production

Last 2-3 months of production

SEPARATE BUDGET IS APPROVED by EA to make DLC.

Too bad they were planning the "DLC" from november. That shoots that silly theory, doesn't it?

Planning =/= Making


I'm planning to have breakfast tommorow morning, does that mean I'll be eating breakfast throughout the night?

Planning is apart of the development process though.

Or it could just mean

'Hey, I've got some ideas for possible DLC in the future. We'll look into that after the main project is done.'

Unless you've got evidence to back up your accusation, and I mean cold, hard, fucking not-made-up-bullshit facts, then just stop.

If I don't get some sort of link in your reply, I'll consider your argument debunked.

Two can play at this game.

 

[Tony2077]

-instead of making half assed dlc during the games development, why not use all resources toward fixing glitches to ensure that the game isnt a bug riddled mess

-who decides what is core time vs what is dlc time?

-Integral or not, resources were taken away from bugfix duty; get ready for bugs!

-But its not really optional for people who want the whole story, which seems to be every current mass effect fan. The fans of the original have largely had to jump ship

-Open your eyes, this game is just Mass Effect 2.2, with extra microtransaction opportunities and kinect

You are aware that bug fixing teams wouldn't be affected?

Money was still removed from the budget. If you expect me to believe this After janurary thing, then they had to hire a voice actor. = money. They don't get to charge me extra because they want to develop the DLC with the original budget.

i don't think you understand how the voice acting industry works they get hired for a project
so if there is stuff done after its released or finished they still do voice for it since it part of the contract they signed.

......
What? Did it cost them money or not?

most times they make money on how well the game or show does and some times its a flat rate so it depends on there contract

Who is telling you this mate? Voice actors get paid by the hour, regardless of how well the game does.

i can't say since i don't work in the industry but they do have a contract

 

[SajuukKhar]

You are aware them saying to themselves "hey after the base game is done lets add this character in the game and drawing up a VERY rough draft of what MIGHT happen literally costs 0 dollars to do?

 

[Daystar Clarion]

Zeel here's how the budget is

Main games budget - to be used during the bnase games production

Last 2-3 months of production

SEPARATE BUDGET IS APPROVED by EA to make DLC.

Too bad they were planning the "DLC" from november. That shoots that silly theory, doesn't it?

Planning =/= Making


I'm planning to have breakfast tommorow morning, does that mean I'll be eating breakfast throughout the night?

Planning is apart of the development process though.

Or it could just mean

'Hey, I've got some ideas for possible DLC in the future. We'll look into that after the main project is done.'

Unless you've got evidence to back up your accusation, and I mean cold, hard, fucking not-made-up-bullshit facts, then just stop.

If I don't get some sort of link in your reply, I'll consider your argument debunked.

Two can play at this game.

Do you want the leaks or something? because it isn't just a sidenote mention of the Prothean. The Prothean is involved in a lot of plot related elements.

"accusation" Don't be so god damn melodramatic.

'sidenote' not proof.

Leak has already been debunked.

Argument has been debunked. Next issue.

 

[Tony2077]

Zeel here's how the budget is

Main games budget - to be used during the bnase games production

Last 2-3 months of production

SEPARATE BUDGET IS APPROVED by EA to make DLC.

Too bad they were planning the "DLC" from november. That shoots that silly theory, doesn't it?

Planning =/= Making


I'm planning to have breakfast tommorow morning, does that mean I'll be eating breakfast throughout the night?

Planning is apart of the development process though.

Or it could just mean

'Hey, I've got some ideas for possible DLC in the future. We'll look into that after the main project is done.'

Unless you've got evidence to back up your accusation, and I mean cold, hard, fucking not-made-up-bullshit facts, then just stop.

If I don't get some sort of link in your reply, I'll consider your argument debunked.

Two can play at this game.

Do you want the leaks or something? because it isn't just a sidenote mention of the Prothean. The Prothean is involved in a lot of plot related elements.

"accusation" Don't be so god damn melodramatic.

go ahead show us that the dlc missions were already there or him being a party member

 

[Shoggoth2588]

-snip-

Oh that catwoman thing was ridiculous. Glad I wasn't a batman Arkham fan back then.

wait for the reviews, they'll hopefully tell you what you need. I tend to head to Metacritic and balance out userreview and Critic's reviews.

I fucking LOVED Arkham Asylum. I waited with baited breath for Arkham City...then they announced the character-skin preorder thing and thought to myself, "ok, I can live without the pre-order and buy the skins later". Then they announce that the Catwoman thing is for new games only and, playable after inputting a code online. For a singleplayer game I say no, I may be online now but getting on Live and PSN is a pain in the ass at best for me. I still have yet to play Arkham City, I'm just waiting for my local mom-n-pop place to start selling used copies for cheap before I grab a used copy. Also, screw buying character skins at this point (goes without saying).

 

[SajuukKhar]

No

I acknowledge that some guys at Bioware said "this might be a good idea if we have time after the main game is done"

Guess what, HUNDREDS of suggestions like this happen during BASE GAME development, for EVERY GAME from Mass effect to Portal 2, and 99% of them never see the light of day.

If pitching an idea = development, then the Mass effect 3 team was "developing" possibly over 100 things at once.

You REALLY don't understand how games are made.

 

[Daystar Clarion]

Zeel here's how the budget is

Main games budget - to be used during the bnase games production

Last 2-3 months of production

SEPARATE BUDGET IS APPROVED by EA to make DLC.

Too bad they were planning the "DLC" from november. That shoots that silly theory, doesn't it?

Planning =/= Making


I'm planning to have breakfast tommorow morning, does that mean I'll be eating breakfast throughout the night?

Planning is apart of the development process though.

Or it could just mean

'Hey, I've got some ideas for possible DLC in the future. We'll look into that after the main project is done.'

Unless you've got evidence to back up your accusation, and I mean cold, hard, fucking not-made-up-bullshit facts, then just stop.

If I don't get some sort of link in your reply, I'll consider your argument debunked.

Two can play at this game.

Do you want the leaks or something? because it isn't just a sidenote mention of the Prothean. The Prothean is involved in a lot of plot related elements.

"accusation" Don't be so god damn melodramatic.

'sidenote' not proof.

Leak has already been debunked.

Argument has been debunked. Next issue.

hah! when has the leak been debunked? This must of been when I visited the moon and made out with 3 blue chicks.

Considering how the leak only mentions the prothean as being in the story, and nothing about his role in any missions etc, means that there is no evidence of this DLC in the leak.

The prothean is in the game regardless, the DLC adds side quests and the ability to recruit him.

Next issue.

 

[Tony2077]

-instead of making half assed dlc during the games development, why not use all resources toward fixing glitches to ensure that the game isnt a bug riddled mess

-who decides what is core time vs what is dlc time?

-Integral or not, resources were taken away from bugfix duty; get ready for bugs!

-But its not really optional for people who want the whole story, which seems to be every current mass effect fan. The fans of the original have largely had to jump ship

-Open your eyes, this game is just Mass Effect 2.2, with extra microtransaction opportunities and kinect

You are aware that bug fixing teams wouldn't be affected?

Money was still removed from the budget. If you expect me to believe this After janurary thing, then they had to hire a voice actor. = money. They don't get to charge me extra because they want to develop the DLC with the original budget.

i don't think you understand how the voice acting industry works they get hired for a project
so if there is stuff done after its released or finished they still do voice for it since it part of the contract they signed.

......
What? Did it cost them money or not?

most times they make money on how well the game or show does and some times its a flat rate so it depends on there contract

Who is telling you this mate? Voice actors get paid by the hour, regardless of how well the game does.

i can't say since i don't work in the industry but they do have a contract

Reoccuring characters get contracts. Jennifer Hale and Mark Meer have contracts, but they are still paid by the hour.

I'm not sure how there pay works since I'm not sure how the industry works. some may be independents some may work for a company

 

[Tony2077]

No

I acknowledge that some guys at Bioware said "this might be a good idea if we have time after the main game is done"

Guess what, HUNDREDS of suggestions like this happen during BASE GAME development and 99% of them never see the light of day.

If pitching an idea = development, then the Mass effect 3 team was "developing" possibly over 100 things at once.

You REALLY don't understand how games are made.

According to that picture you keep pasting in these threads. "planning" is apart of the development. So what? Do you believe that picture, or don't you?

planning is apart of it but it doesn't always mean they make it into the game some they may decide to add as dlc or updates

 

[Daystar Clarion]

Zeel here's how the budget is

Main games budget - to be used during the bnase games production

Last 2-3 months of production

SEPARATE BUDGET IS APPROVED by EA to make DLC.

Too bad they were planning the "DLC" from november. That shoots that silly theory, doesn't it?

Planning =/= Making


I'm planning to have breakfast tommorow morning, does that mean I'll be eating breakfast throughout the night?

Planning is apart of the development process though.

Or it could just mean

'Hey, I've got some ideas for possible DLC in the future. We'll look into that after the main project is done.'

Unless you've got evidence to back up your accusation, and I mean cold, hard, fucking not-made-up-bullshit facts, then just stop.

If I don't get some sort of link in your reply, I'll consider your argument debunked.

Two can play at this game.

Do you want the leaks or something? because it isn't just a sidenote mention of the Prothean. The Prothean is involved in a lot of plot related elements.

"accusation" Don't be so god damn melodramatic.

'sidenote' not proof.

Leak has already been debunked.

Argument has been debunked. Next issue.

hah! when has the leak been debunked? This must of been when I visited the moon and made out with 3 blue chicks.

Considering how the leak only mentions the prothean as being in the story, and nothing about his role in any missions etc, means that there is no evidence of this DLC in the leak.

The prothean is in the game regardless, the DLC adds side quests and the ability to recruit him.

Next issue.

If the prothean was being developed from November then regardless of what they added post Jan. The development started earlier and thus was part of the 'core-funds'.

No it doesn't.

Prove it. Where I come from, the person making the accusations has the burden of proof.

Show me the 'proof', then I will refute it.

That means links, you, actually posting evidence, instead of making up shit.

 

[Tony2077]

-instead of making half assed dlc during the games development, why not use all resources toward fixing glitches to ensure that the game isnt a bug riddled mess

-who decides what is core time vs what is dlc time?

-Integral or not, resources were taken away from bugfix duty; get ready for bugs!

-But its not really optional for people who want the whole story, which seems to be every current mass effect fan. The fans of the original have largely had to jump ship

-Open your eyes, this game is just Mass Effect 2.2, with extra microtransaction opportunities and kinect

You are aware that bug fixing teams wouldn't be affected?

Money was still removed from the budget. If you expect me to believe this After janurary thing, then they had to hire a voice actor. = money. They don't get to charge me extra because they want to develop the DLC with the original budget.

i don't think you understand how the voice acting industry works they get hired for a project
so if there is stuff done after its released or finished they still do voice for it since it part of the contract they signed.

......
What? Did it cost them money or not?

most times they make money on how well the game or show does and some times its a flat rate so it depends on there contract

Who is telling you this mate? Voice actors get paid by the hour, regardless of how well the game does.

i can't say since i don't work in the industry but they do have a contract

Reoccuring characters get contracts. Jennifer Hale and Mark Meer have contracts, but they are still paid by the hour.

I'm not sure how there pay works since I'm not sure how the industry works. some may be independents some may work for a company

So why did you start spewing out random bullcrap about it?

i'm just saying you may be wrong about it so don't hold it against me