BioWare: Player Feedback Shapes Our Content
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Oh, the story of KotOR 2 was incredible. One of the best I've ever seen in gaming. But that one WOW moment in the first KotOR puts it just ahead for me.Gemore said:
That's fair. That moment was so amazing first time through, it really is hard for anything to top that. I can think of ONE thing that does, and it's not even in gaming. (A certain event from the end of season 2 of Avatar, if you were wondering)Da Orky Man said:
It's nice to know you can be self-deprecating.Mortuorum said:
It's actually an un-winnable situation. If they give into every demand they get crap and bitching from people like you. If they do it all themselves then they get bitching from another group of people that say they never listen to the players.
I want them to find a happy median between player feedback and their own problem solvers. That way I think the least amount of bitching will occur.
You must be pretty amazing to know so much about me (and, of course, "people like me") from a brief one paragraph quote!Inkidu said:
Ignoring the insulting subtect of your comments, I will elaborate on my point, which I thought would be self-evident to someone with almost 700 board posts. The most vocal segment of the gaming fan population generally does not represent the typical audience of the game, but rather the extremes. So, by incorporating suggestions from that group, you will most likely marginalize the majority of your playerbase.
The problem is actually exacerbated with BioWare games. BioWare titles have historically been geared towards very specific types of RPG fans. Their own success, however, has garnered them an audience that includes a broader player base. Good for BioWare, yes? Except that I personally actually like the crunchy bits of the old BioWare RPGs (strategic skill building, item management, etc.). So, when Mass Effect 2 came out, I was disappointed. Clearly (to me, anyways), BioWare was trying to please the fans who wanted Mass Effect to play more like a shooter. It is still a fun game, but feels more like "Call of Duty: Spectre" than the spiritual sequel to KOTOR (which was their stated original intent).
Users:"Dear Bioware, stop reusing the same areas 10 times"
Bioware:"Dear Users, You'll have to pay us $10 for every dlc that doesn't reuse areas over and over again, we'll never ever improve Dragon Age II simply because You suckers already paid us and now Your opinions don't matter"
That's a short description of BW-Community dialogue over the last 5 months.
Bioware:"Dear Users, You'll have to pay us $10 for every dlc that doesn't reuse areas over and over again, we'll never ever improve Dragon Age II simply because You suckers already paid us and now Your opinions don't matter"
That's a short description of BW-Community dialogue over the last 5 months.
I think you've confused Bioware with Activision. Bioware's never said that they'll never improve DAII. Besides, how are they supposed to fix that problem? Through a patch adding new textures?ciasteczkowyp said:
And Microsoft pretty much forces gaming companies to charge for their DLC. It's not entirely Bioware's fault, though whether $10 is too much really depends on what the DLC is.
I have to give it to you first, you knew just how to label a whole group of diverse people in general. I mean really truly able to sum up a whole group in one statement. Awe inspiring.Mortuorum said:
I see a problem with the most vocal not being the best advocates. Why are we letting tools speak louder than people who should know what they want in their games?
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I said before it's un-winnable. You have to "Give the people what they want." but you also can't make everyone happy all the time. Like I said happy median. Sure ME 2 was actionier but that also came with less exploitation of the ME 1 RPG mechanics and it's still a challenging and strategic game. Play it on insanity and you're really going to see the challenge. I'll gladly sacrifice the crunchy bits when they start slogging me down.
So, my point is you and a group who thinks like you ***** about one thing, some group bitches about another, and so on. Happy median.
yeah, that's what I'd do if I were in their place. Step one:
Admit that You've done many ugly shortcuts to make the game arrive on time, because it was rushed.
Step two:
Draw 17 new caves/4 new mansions and 2-3 rocky/sand random encounter areas, implement them.
Job done, 50% of user based anger fixed.
Another thing:
Introduce gaps/pathways/doors for the "never ending enemy armies" to come out.
Job done, another stupid issue fixed.
That's the first AAA RPG title that seriously made me rotfl heavily when watching those mobs "pop-out" xD
if that is true then i'm wondering if all sane fans have left the boat over the last years...
here is my feedback:
1)throw out your current writers and designers and team up with obisidian + the leftovers from troika
2)do project jefferson
3)????
4)profit!!!
here is my feedback:
1)throw out your current writers and designers and team up with obisidian + the leftovers from troika
2)do project jefferson
3)????
4)profit!!!
I believe them. Legacy was really fun to play, even if I did have a blazing headache at the time. The twists might have been predictable (probably because I am a lore freak), but awesome nontheless.