BioWare Writers Talk Same-Sex Love In Mass Effect 3

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Artemicion

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Callate said:
Hey, remember when gay/bisexual characters were the biggest concern anyone seemed to have with the writing in Mass Effect 3?

...Heh heh. Yeah. Good times.

(sigh...)
This man speaks truths.

As far as the article goes: They did a good job, I guess? Homosexuality has never been a concern to me. I don't think we should make a big deal out of it being portrayed successfully - that only invites more criticism.
 

Sealpower

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Never really noticed that Traynor was lesbian during my one and only playtrough. I'm also a bit ashamed to admit that I kept my distance from Cortez because I thought he would go all Anders on me.

How come you can't be nice to people (regardless of gender and/or sexuality) in Bioware games without being invited into their pants?
 

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Sealpower said:
Never really noticed that Traynor was lesbian during my one and only playtrough. I'm also a bit ashamed to admit that I kept my distance from Cortez because I thought he would go all Anders on me.

How come you can't be nice to people (regardless of gender and/or sexuality) in Bioware games without being invited into their pants?
Well, you can. My FemShep had an amazing friendship with Garrus. I only had to avoid the option of doing him once, in ME2. After that, it never came up again.
 

zefiris

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As a gay person, writing romance like this is *exactly* how I want romance to be written. A romance between two people of the same sex shouldn't focus only on huge problems of it being same sex, and the character shouldn't be about this.

sadly, I have to agree that Cortez was the better character. But hey, they'll get better at it.

But no gays were up in arms over their portrayal in the game right?
Why would there be?

"Up in arms"? Methinks someone likes watching fox news a bit much if that was the first phrase to come into their minds when describing gay people disliking something.

How come you can't be nice to people (regardless of gender and/or sexuality) in Bioware games without being invited into their pants?
This is a frequent complaint and yeah, gotta agree. These romances should definitely be harder to get in general, some characters seem to literally be waiting for Shep/Hawke to ask to bed them.
 

LHZA

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Sealpower said:
Never really noticed that Traynor was lesbian during my one and only playtrough. I'm also a bit ashamed to admit that I kept my distance from Cortez because I thought he would go all Anders on me.

How come you can't be nice to people (regardless of gender and/or sexuality) in Bioware games without being invited into their pants?
Actually, you have to make the first move with Cortez and Traynor.
 

CatR

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A brilliant man, never romancing Traynor made me like her as a character! Of course, when she came on to me in the second dialogue section or so it was weird because Garrus is my hubbie apparently, because I accidentally all of his romance in ME2. Playing female Shepherd was weird, because at one point in the story lesbians were parading around in my quarters trying to bang me. First Traynor comes in and steals the shower with the obligatory shower scene while I keep dutifully ignoring her, then the reporter chick comes in and parades about wanting to dig for gold in my vagina although I had no interaction with her what so ever. At least Garrus came in at one point and DIDN'T act like he had gone into heat.

So yeah, lesbian writing was done really well! Except all of the lesbian parts. My first and only reaction the characters craving my Shepherd's pie like hound dogs was "Oh yes, there's the lesbians included for the sole purpose of making me, as what I assume must be a 14 year old sexually repressed male, so interested in the possibility of mammaries that I will go to the store and buy this game." Protip guys, if you can't identify with the character you are writing, don't fucking write it. Traynor could have been a quirky character that happened to be gay, she was a gay character who happened to be quirky. The reporter could have been dubbed "Fanservice McBooby" for all the good she did. Fetch me the gay elf of Dragon Age! From what I can remember between the notion I had a queer, oiled-up elf in my party and "tapping that" I thought it was done well!

Yes, I am still bitter that I couldn't french Mordin at his last scene.
 

Gordon Freemonty

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antipunt said:
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mad825 said:
Eh, they were shoehorned in.

Traynor was cheesy and Cortez was lame. Both of them had to make themselves oblivious to the fact that they are homosexual. The first thing out of Traynor's mouth was "I am a lesbian" and Cortez was like *sniff* "I'm...Gay..Shepard" *breaksdown*.

My reaction to this? I GET IT!
You wan't to see Shoehorned See: Diane Allers (Jessica Chobot)
Was I the only one who was like "No. Get the hell off my ship"
Nope, didn't let her on in the first place.
 

Elate

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Honestly, Cortez was the worst written gay character I have ever seen.. Found it a little insulting, like having a token gay man
(That was over come by the really awkward moment where you found him crying, and I laughed my ass off at the thought of all those homophobic guys trying to play through that)
He had far to much emotional baggage, and was generally a not very likable character.. I mean he was alright, just.. not INTERESTING at all, just so bland... Soo, I did Tali, again. She so cute.
 

lovelopez

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Love doesn't always result in great sex, and certainly, otherwise very happy couples have problems with sex sometimes. And sex without love can be extremely wonderful with the right partner. It's a matter of your lover knowing the right ways to touch you and appeal to you. Love certainly helps, in that the whole brain chemistry and bonding things are working with the touching and everything else. However, I've known people who said they can't have good sex with someone they loved, and that it had to be with someone they didn't have those feelings for. Some people say the best sex they've had is with people they weren't in love with. I think it varies and depends on the person.

However, like I said, I think your situation is also that you've found someone who's sexual skills match your sexual desires. Some people who don't have great sex at first, can have great sex if they're both willing to learn to do what pleases the other sexually.