Bisexual's Don't Exist So... I'm Not Real? Damn....

[iseko]

I don't really believe in bisexuality. Sounds weird to use the word 'believe' but there ya go. On the other hand, I never judge. Here is the thing: for me there are gays, lesbians and homosexuals. All that pan-/asexual stuff doesn't really exist for me. Why? Because I think that for example a bisexual guy will still have his preference

--> The bisexual guy might prefer girls over boys. Doesn't mean he won't screw a guy now and then. But he just likes girls better overall. In my book that makes him straight. Nowadays it's easy to confuse yourself. Because you see naked guys and girls everywhere (not just talking about porn). But in the end you will choose for only one type.

Now like I said: I don't judge. I have gay and lesbian friends. As long as those guys aren't to feminine and the lesbians not butch, I don't care. And that has nothing to do with discrimination based on sexual preference. Those people just rub me the wrong way. I don't mind their lifestyle, they just shouldn't talk to me. Just like a *****/douche shouldn't talk to me. I don't like them.

Me? Im straight. Not as straight as they get but pretty damn close. I like my sexual partners to having jumping titties and a nice vagina that I can plow tyvm.

PS: It's just my opinion. I don't need other people to agree with me. And I don't need people to call me an ignorant hick. It's what I believe (there is that word again..) and I don't think there is anything wrong with it. I'm not trying to force my opinion on others.

captcha: star spangled, well why not captcha? I'm open minded

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From a psychological study standpoint, the position can be held that there is essentially no need for sexuality in this sense, and the only practical ones become in essence binary. On/off, Gay/Straight. However In this context it affirms there is no need for deviated sexualities because your sexuality is whatever you are in at the moment. This means looks as sexuality in the moment, as opposed to it being a character trait to have the whole of the individual identified with.

There IS logical reason for this. Sexuality while may be essentially wrote in stone for some, in many cases does in fact evolve as the individual evolves. That variable nature makes the concept of identifying with ones sexuality impractical and in essence lacking. In looking at sexuality in this form, it also helps to eliminate the concepts of divides that we all know all too well that people on ALL sides of sexuality use to separate from non like minded individuals. This view would in essence look at sexuality more as one Universal sexuality, or just... Sexuality.-snip-

/raises flame shield.

THIS! He describes it better then I did. But I pretty much agree. And no need for that flameshield (I hope, if there is need I would like to get behind it as well).

 

[Jenvas1306]

Bisexuals sure exist. I've got a past with some sexuality struggles, but if you look at the internet you find lots of shit.
I'm also TG and you really shouldnt look for post about that anywhere, cause you find terribly ugly things, not just claims it wouldnt exist.

 

[Legion]

Anyone who believes that bisexuality doesn't actually exist is an absolute moron and deserves to be defenestrated out of the nearest tall building.

No similar experiences for me, for I am in the heterosexual camp.

This.

I would like to say that I am surprised about the fact there are people stupid enough to believe that it doesn't exist. Then again there are so many things that prove how stupid some people can be that it honestly isn't all that surprising.

Just as ridiculous is the bizarre idea that bisexual people couldn't have a monogamous relationship due to being attracted to both genders. There is absolutely no logical explanation for such an idiotic assumption.

As well as the idea that it is "greedy". I mean, seriously?

Soooo ... How do bi-sexuals choose their partner? I'm just curious? Is it first come first serve ? Or flavor of the month? What happens when you are dating a guy and suddenly feel the urge to date/sleep with a girl ? I'm dead serious , i want to know how this works. Is it easier to date another bi-sexual ? Or do they go with both straight and homosexuals. I WANT ANSWERS DAMMIT!

How do you choose yours as a heterosexual?

I am assuming that you prefer monogamous relationships.

You see somebody attractive, and wish to enter a relationship right? That's all there is to it. Some you find attractive, some people you do not.

All liking both genders would mean is that you are statistically more likely to find an attractive person due to doubling the potential partners.

I don't really believe in bisexuality. Sounds weird to use the word 'believe' but there ya go. On the other hand, I never judge. Here is the thing: for me there are gays, lesbians and homosexuals. All that pan-/asexual stuff doesn't really exist for me. Why? Because I think that for example a bisexual guy will still have his preference

--> The bisexual guy might prefer girls over boys. Doesn't mean he won't screw a guy now and then. But he just likes girls better overall. In my book that makes him straight. Nowadays it's easy to confuse yourself. Because you see naked guys and girls everywhere (not just talking about porn). But in the end you will choose for only one type.

So humans are omnivores. We eat both meat and we eat non-meat foods.

If I prefer meat to vegetables does that make me a carnivore because I have a preference for it?

No. Because I eat both. Yes, bisexual people more often than not will have a preference, that's just human nature. But as long as they are sexually attracted to both genders then they are bisexual. Bi means two. There are two sexes, and they are attracted to both, therefore that is what they are.

That said, sexuality to me is not important, and barely worth talking about. Not because of a lack of interest in sex or relationships. I just view it as one of those "Does it even really matter?" things. It's not like it defines you unless you choose it to.

 

[Shikua]

But in the end you will choose for only one type.

^ That's not entirely true. Plenty of folks practise polyamoury, or don't get into permanent relationships with one partner. The mononormativity is strong in this thread.

 

[Smeatza]

I've seen people claim the both heterosexuality and homosexuality are lies and everyone is a shade of bisexual in between the two.
If you're not reading it in a scientific study, best not to pay any attention, and even then be reasonably sceptical.

 

[EeveeElectro]

I've known quite a number of people who claim to be bisexual, and I honestly think it's a tiny number of them who actually are. This is from my personal experience, so no need for anyone's blood to boil.

A lot of people used to say they were to appear cool and edgy, or to fit in with their group of friends or to get a lot of attention. A few of my friends who claimed to be bi when they were 15, are now suddenly straight. People don't seem to realise when your hormones are flying all over the place when you're a teenager you probably will have some attraction to the same gender. A few people I knew just acted on that straight away and came out as bisexual. Strangely enough, they only did things the same gender when they were drunk. I knew about 25 bi people in my expanded group of friends and only two of them actually pursued relationships with both genders.

But I digress... bisexuality does exist, there's just too many kids lying about it for me to take some people seriously.

I did hear match.com or some dating site, the people who listed themselves as bisexual, only something like 9% actually messaged both genders. Will try find that article again.

 

[InaquiTheArgentinian]

consider the next sceario:

A man/woman is bisexual, then he/she start a relationship with a woman/man, they stick together, marry(or live, etc.), age and die, then this man/woman is hetero/homosexual because he stay with another person of the oposite/same gender, so he/she wasn't bisexual?

NO, it was a bisexual person who is atracted to both genders but started a realtionship with another person of same/diferent gender. What i think it happens is that most people consider bisexuals orientation depending of their current partner, like "he is bisexual but prefer womens"

i personaly i dont judge poeple for sexual orientation, because its not of my danm business, however i do support equalitarian marriege and so call "Gay" rights, but i also have to admid that i dont nesesary fell confortable around homosexual couples, more so with male couples, not because i disaprove or judge, it because im not use to, the gay community in my country is not really public, argentinian culture have some really mayor steps back in 20 century.

 

[gazumped]

I don't really believe in bisexuality. Sounds weird to use the word 'believe' but there ya go. On the other hand, I never judge. Here is the thing: for me there are gays, lesbians and homosexuals. All that pan-/asexual stuff doesn't really exist for me. Why? Because I think that for example a bisexual guy will still have his preference

Preference, for sure, but bisexuality isn't about liking two genders exactly the same, it's just about liking two genders. If you say you're bisexual, you mean that you're open to the idea of getting it on with guys or girls, saying that you're straight or gay means that a whole gender that you could be doing won't bother with you because they assume you're not interested.

It's like if you prefer blondes, but you fancy a fair few pretty brunettes as well. You're not going to then say that you only fancy blonde girls, because then you might want to pursue a brunette and they'll be all 'no, I know you're a blondes man really, you'd clearly not be serious about a relationship with me'. Or if you prefer blue eyes, or tanned skin, or short hair cuts, or foreign accents... you see where I'm going with this? Most people have preferences, few people are so restricted in their preference that all their potential relationships are defined by that preference.

 

[The White Hunter]

Well after weeks of being invisible here on the Escapist I finally get some attention and it's ten quotes over night @____@ Time for some snipping and splitting this up page by page.

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Yeah bisexual to me isn't a 50/50 attraction it's more encompassing, it's easier to say I'm bisexual than explain the complicated layers of my attractions to other people. I'll also accept that it can be used as a transitionary phase for some people, but it does exist and probably more than is documented. I'm decidedly indifferent about gender and find a personality much more important.

Pansexuality to me just comes off as pretentious douchebaggery a lot of the time, it's a glorified way of saying "hey I don't care about gender but I don't wanna be bi!".

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I like short women with curves, I like more masculine men with well groomed hair. :3

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It needs titles because people like to put others into their checkboxes and categorize them, sexuality is a broad and varying thing that changes throughout your life.

I was mad too but now I'm fairly chill, since it's Friday!

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Um whilst I did find the news reports first the actual articles and papers came from various universities. It's all kinda dumb, I was pissed off at the time though and thus made a thread! The internet tends to make me mad sometimes thoiugh I have a good tolerance for it mostly..

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I know it pisses people off idk why I use it, I like to maintain a degree of sexual ambiguity I guess, being an enigma can be fun. I'm not into it so much as I am completely indifferent to the presence of female body hair, it doesn't bother me, they sweat and smell just the same either way.

It is indeed why we can't have nice things. If I cause another rush of them then I shall commit seppuku in order to repay my debt to the off-topic discussion forum.


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[The White Hunter]

Well the closest thing to a legitimate rejection of bisexuality I can believe is that most tend to develop a preference for one gender or the other over time. Makes sense although in my experience it seems to be a preference for a specific individual rather than their gender as a whole. There was a big acceptance rally at my university with a panel consisting of a male homosexual couple, a nymphomaniac, a virgin and a bisexual. The last one admitted that even though she was still attracted to members of both genders, she was happiest with her current boyfriend (he had given her the most orgasms). So that's all I can say about that.

But I am pretty sure you exist, if that's any consolation

I think that's the issue, I'll admit that my tastes do fluctuate over time but I generally don't find gender to be a barrier to affection or attraction to another person, thus I identify as bisexual. I've been with the same girl for nearly 4 years now but I do still like boys, being monogamous doesn't define your orientation any more than the colour of your shoes does.

Thank you, my existence is soothed by your belief
Love the new avatar by the way!

 

[Gizen]

Soooo ... How do bi-sexuals choose their partner? I'm just curious? Is it first come first serve ? Or flavor of the month? What happens when you are dating a guy and suddenly feel the urge to date/sleep with a girl ? I'm dead serious , i want to know how this works. Is it easier to date another bi-sexual ? Or do they go with both straight and homosexuals. I WANT ANSWERS DAMMIT!

...They choose their partner the exact same way a heterosexual or a homosexual would choose their partner. They just have more partners to choose from. Seriously, the fact that this even has to be explained is kinda saddening.

 

[The White Hunter]

I don't really believe in bisexuality. Sounds weird to use the word 'believe' but there ya go. On the other hand, I never judge. Here is the thing: for me there are gays, lesbians and homosexuals. All that pan-/asexual stuff doesn't really exist for me. Why? Because I think that for example a bisexual guy will still have his preference

Preference, for sure, but bisexuality isn't about liking two genders exactly the same, it's just about liking two genders. If you say you're bisexual, you mean that you're open to the idea of getting it on with guys or girls, saying that you're straight or gay means that a whole gender that you could be doing won't bother with you because they assume you're not interested.

It's like if you prefer blondes, but you fancy a fair few pretty brunettes as well. You're not going to then say that you only fancy blonde girls, because then you might want to pursue a brunette and they'll be all 'no, I know you're a blondes man really, you'd clearly not be serious about a relationship with me'. Or if you prefer blue eyes, or tanned skin, or short hair cuts, or foreign accents... you see where I'm going with this? Most people have preferences, few people are so restricted in their preference that all their potential relationships are defined by that preference.

That's a really good example right there my good man, I've read a similar one elsewhere but it's a great way to summarise it.

 

[The White Hunter]

Bisexuality is real. Didn't that Kinsey study have a scale or something?
Well, whatever, I guess the skepticism comes from the woman that "play bi" for attention. They're are giving real bisexuals a bad name.

I've also had a situation with my current long term girlfriend partner where she accused me of wanting her to be a man because I said I didn't care if she waxed her underarms when she asked. Thoughts/opinions on this? Similar experiences?

I caught some shit for having a very similar response to a very similar question. My replay was something along the lines of, "I don't care if you wax or shave or just leave it." She couldn't accuse me of wanting her to be a man, but I remember there were more words exchanged than needed be.

Yeah it pretty much turned into it's whole special ordeal, with 3 hours of arguing about the whole damn thing when I didn't even care in the first place! So long as the legs aren't hairy I don't really care what women do about body hair.

[small] Unless they have moustaches. Moustaches are for bros, bro[/small]

 

[The White Hunter]

Snip!

I believe you exist! Have an internet hug! -huggle-!

Seriously thought I've met a few asexual people before. Perfectly understandable things. After all humans are fairly gross things and I can see why you wouldn't want to put your dick in any of them!

 

[The White Hunter]

You know I really hope I don't get banned for multiposting or something cuz this is oddly hard to manage!

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I don't believe it... that was kinda my point, I was awestruck that in 2012 people are still researching this rather than just being cool with the whole damn thing and let people fuck whatever they want to fuck.

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It's a thing because the stupid and irgnorant are a thorn in the side of the continued development of our species!

As for the OP - get away, figment of my imagination, stop posting threads on the internet and pretending to exist!

No, I shall never cease pretending to exist, my allusions to power are boundless!!

 

[The White Hunter]

Wow! I've been lurking around the forums for a while now, but this seems like a perfect topic to introduce myself with. First off I want to say that I completely understand where you're coming from and sympathize with what happened to you. I went to a catholic high school for four years and when I finally came out as a male bisexual a week before my graduation it literally ruined my life. I lost my best friend who I'd known since early childhood, and had to put up with alot of gay-bashing from him as well as from the douche-bag underclassmen (they're the kind of kids who go on xbox live and scream obscenities at the other time during a game of MW3). That along with having to hide my secret from my ultra-conservative, red-neck, Texan brother has led to very bad depression and social anxiety. On the other hand though in college there are lots of support groups for guys like us, so don't let anything some dumbass on the internet says discourage you. I hope I wish you the best of luck and Hope you get this sorted out one day!

Welcome to the escapist!

I must say I'm from a fairly similar background and dealt with some fairly similar crap when I was at school, though I was already a bit of an outcast for most of my teen years. I'm from a small town in a fairly backwoods part of the UK and the people here aren't really very tolerant or understanding of anyone different in any way. University is definately better but there are still pricks around, though by now it mostly slides off me without bothering me much.

I just found such articles coming out and such research to be appalling in the modern day.

As for the depression and social anxiety, I personally have a small degree of social anxiety and often hide away on my own, I dislike going out much really but it's not too bad of a problem. Depression wise I suffer from bipolar disorder and should really see a doctor about it at some time and get some help! If you ever need to talk about anything feel free to PM me or add my Skype/Steam.

It's all sorted out, I was feeling grumpy the other day but today I feel super!

 

[Savryc]

That's because it's true, you don't exist. None of you do. You're all figments of my imagination that I allow to live your little lives. But one day. *Poof* I'll just stop imagining you.

Who's next you ask? You'll see, or maybe you won't.

OT: Yeah I dunno. People are shitty like that sometimes.

 

[The White Hunter]

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I love it when people arbitrarily throw out quotes like "bisexuality isn't a real thing" or "it's a phase" it gives me a nice ol' throwback to the damn old idea that homosexuality is a choice.

Seriously, why is it so difficult to comprehend that some people like boys, some girls and some both? is it that hard to comprehend? I suppose i could make an assumption that it's hard top believe on account of having known some people who said they were bisexual, but never touched a person of their own/ the other sex (only one, ne'er the other that is) but we're dead sure that they were bi-sexual anyway. and you know what? fine. Who am i to second guess anyone elses sexuality anyway? i don't know how they feel when they look at other people.

live and let live.

I like boys, girls, and everything in between

I don't get why we need research for it or anything. Live and let live, some people just like to project their own fears and worries onto others, while others just need something to hate or they get all calm and relaxed and don't know what to do with themselves!

 

[The White Hunter]

I will do anything once and while I am married I do have a certain attraction to certain types of guys... though I doubt anything other than a fling could become of it. Not sure if thats bi or not.

I guess the question should be is bi being able to fall in love live and die as well as have sex with both genders? or can it just be a "Yeah I'd hit that."?

Trying anything once is pretty much how I go about things tbh. I'm not married though I do have a long term girlfriend and no desire to change that. That doesn't mean I don't daydream or fantasize though, even though I haven't been with a guy in a while.

I guess it's a bit of both and depends on your own perspective of your sexuality. I'm capable of love with any gender and I also have a case of "Yeah, I'd tap that ass" myself.

You could be, but I wouldn't risk your marriage over curiosity
Watch some videos maybe? xD

 

[Zack Alklazaris]

I will do anything once and while I am married I do have a certain attraction to certain types of guys... though I doubt anything other than a fling could become of it. Not sure if thats bi or not.

I guess the question should be is bi being able to fall in love live and die as well as have sex with both genders? or can it just be a "Yeah I'd hit that."?

Trying anything once is pretty much how I go about things tbh. I'm not married though I do have a long term girlfriend and no desire to change that. That doesn't mean I don't daydream or fantasize though, even though I haven't been with a guy in a while.

I guess it's a bit of both and depends on your own perspective of your sexuality. I'm capable of love with any gender and I also have a case of "Yeah, I'd tap that ass" myself.

You could be, but I wouldn't risk your marriage over curiosity
Watch some videos maybe? xD

Lol my wife pretty much had bi on her list of must haves for a husband, believe me she knows.