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omega 616

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I have seen a fair few black comics, some big names and some less well known and a lot seem to do race jokes.

Now is it a little weird for a black comic to be saying things like "man, I'm sick of racism ..... now you white folk ...".

I know it's just comedy but it just strikes me as weird that they want to get rid of racism (like any level headed person would), then go on to list the differences between them.








Don't get me wrong, I don't mind any of these jokes and I love most comedy (the office can go die in a corner, for example).
 

quiet_samurai

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So... yeah... is there a question here?

IMO, when we all can make jokes about one another, and list the differences among us, and laugh about it while having a good time without being sensitive..... then we have truly overcome racism.

And I don't thin statng the differences between people is rascist, it's only rascist if you do it with hate in your heart.
 

omega 616

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quiet_samurai said:
So... yeah... is there a question here?

IMO, when we all can make jokes about one another, and list the differences among us, and laugh about it while having a good time without being sensitive..... then we have truly overcome racism.

And I don't thin statng the differences between people is rascist, it's only rascist if you do it with hate in your heart.
Racism can be about that but can't it be about getting rid of it by bringing people together and not saying "well you're different 'cos ...." or "black people are like Y but white people are like X".
 

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omega 616 said:
quiet_samurai said:
So... yeah... is there a question here?

IMO, when we all can make jokes about one another, and list the differences among us, and laugh about it while having a good time without being sensitive..... then we have truly overcome racism.

And I don't thin statng the differences between people is rascist, it's only rascist if you do it with hate in your heart.
Racism can be about that but can't it be about getting rid of it by bringing people together and not saying "well you're different 'cos ...." or "black people are like Y but white people are like X".
Sure, but it depends on how you look at it.

People of different backgrounds coming together and sharing a good time without getting angry is a bonding experience... no matter the topic.

We are all always going to be different.... it's a given. And we are all going to know this.. so we can get angry, ignore it and make any mention of it taboo, or embrace it and in those differences enjoy ourselves.

The only way we could all never be different is to blend the species into one along with our cultural and social ways. Which... is highly unlikely.
 

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Laughing at bad experiences is a coping mechanism. They're ridiculing racial perceptions and are essentially saying "Yes, we differ like this, this and this- so what?" It's the whole "men vs women" schtick that both male and female comedians pull all the time, but in a way that pertains to their own life experiences. It's done in order to mock stereotypes.
 

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I came here to have a big conversation about "Truth: Red, White and Black" my second favorite Marvel series. I'm a little disappointed now.
 

Vault101

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I thourght you were reffering to some comic book publisher I didnt know about :/

differences will always be there...we can laugh about it or get up-tight about it
 

omega 616

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quiet_samurai said:
omega 616 said:
quiet_samurai said:
So... yeah... is there a question here?

IMO, when we all can make jokes about one another, and list the differences among us, and laugh about it while having a good time without being sensitive..... then we have truly overcome racism.

And I don't thin statng the differences between people is rascist, it's only rascist if you do it with hate in your heart.
Racism can be about that but can't it be about getting rid of it by bringing people together and not saying "well you're different 'cos ...." or "black people are like Y but white people are like X".
Sure, but it depends on how you look at it.

People of different backgrounds coming together and sharing a good time without getting angry is a bonding experience... no matter the topic.

We are all always going to be different.... it's a given. And we are all going to know this.. so we can get angry, ignore it and make any mention of it taboo, or embrace it and in those differences enjoy ourselves.

The only way we could all never be different is to blend the species into one along with our cultural and social ways. Which... is highly unlikely.
Oh no, I get that.

It's just I watch a lot of comedy, from a lot of races and ethnicity's and the only ones I pick up on doing a lot of race jokes are black comedians.

I can't actually think of a white comedian who has done a "you what the difference between white people and black people are?" joke ... Although (like Perry cox) I haven't done the appropriate leg work to say for sure if that's the case (probably isn't) but I listen to Jimmy carr and he does a lot of close to the bone jokes (child abuse, necrophilia, people with special needs etc).
 

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Pretty much
If you make a joke about a white person, it's not racist
If a white man say's anything it's therefore racist or sexist
White males are unfortunately silent victims in race and gender abuse, as everyone looks to them as the abusers, rather than the takers of racism.
I may have gone a bit off topic, but that's the truth
 

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I'd like to reach a point where a *joke* about a person different from you can be laughed about without discomfort.

I can make jokes about Canadians, but I can't about Asian people, or black people, or Latinos? I see a bit of a disconnect, here. You don't choose to be Canadian-born-and-raised anymore than you choose to be black, so why is it okay to joke about one but not the other?

Many people are in a similar boat as I and wouldn't care who I make fun of; no group is out of bounds. South Park comes to mind. I wish for this trend to continue and spread.

Edit: Slightly off-topic, I'm still confused as to how I'm supposed to listen to this song full-blast on campus without coming off as a racist prick or a wannabe gangster...


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I've never found the kind of jokes that African-American comedians tell to be offensive, although I do tend to find them repetitive. It seems like most of the famous comedians that are associated with a certain ethnic background use it as an excuse to make the same jokes over and over and over. Jewish comedians do it, Latino comedians do it, African-American comedians do it, Caucasian ones too. I'm less worried about racism and more worried about originality.
 

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What's worse are black comics who routinely indulge in homophobic jokes while perusing the services of transvestite streetwalkers.

Here's lookin' at you, Ed.

 

omega 616

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keideki said:
I've never found the kind of jokes that African-American comedians tell to be offensive, although I do tend to find them repetitive. It seems like most of the famous comedians that are associated with a certain ethnic background use it as an excuse to make the same jokes over and over and over. Jewish comedians do it, Latino comedians do it, African-American comedians do it, Caucasian ones too. I'm less worried about racism and more worried about originality.
It's about telling jokes about what you know and I think we all have funny anecdotes, comedians just get paid to tell there funny anecdotes.

A homeless person telling jokes about how upper class people act is bizarre and it wouldn't be as funny as if he was telling jokes about that 3 legged pigeon he saw that one time.
 

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I thought this thread would be about Noir comics.

Chris Rock is also a great comedian.

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omega 616 said:
A homeless person telling jokes about how upper class people act is bizarre and it wouldn't be as funny as if he was telling jokes about that 3 legged pigeon he saw that one time.

I do not agree, man. The first would be funny, the last one would be awkward as hell.
 

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Once anybody is able to make light hearted fun of anybody else and it isn't considered offensive then it's fine. I don't mind them making those jokes, but if they ever complain about a white man making a similar joke then they can fuck off.
 

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Random Fella said:
Pretty much
If you make a joke about a white person, it's not racist
If a white man say's anything it's therefore racist or sexist
White males are unfortunately silent victims in race and gender abuse, as everyone looks to them as the abusers, rather than the takers of racism.
I may have gone a bit off topic, but that's the truth
But you're ignoring the different social standing. I'm not going to deny that it's possible to be racist against white people but its pretty negligible.

When a black (or any un-privileged person) makes a joke at the expense of the dominant group they're weakening that dominance. When the dominant group makes a joke at the expense of the oppressed they're further oppressing them. There's a difference between punching up and kicking down.
 

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I love Dave Chappelle his show was so freaking funny.

really they all are stand up comedians, just making jokes that we will laugh at. Sure people of non-white descent have a little lee-way in terms of racism but it happens. Enjoy the show and move along
 

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keideki said:
I've never found the kind of jokes that African-American comedians tell to be offensive, although I do tend to find them repetitive. It seems like most of the famous comedians that are associated with a certain ethnic background use it as an excuse to make the same jokes over and over and over. Jewish comedians do it, Latino comedians do it, African-American comedians do it, Caucasian ones too. I'm less worried about racism and more worried about originality.
That's why I like Bill Cosby. Everyone can relate to his jokes.
 

Casual Shinji

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I'm sure there are plenty of black comedians who don't play the "laugh at the white man" joke to death, unfortunately they're not famous...

Probably for that very reason.

Chris Rock can be very funny though, when he's not doing his obligated-by-law white man jokes.