Black Ops Emblem Problems

[OmegaXzors]

I really don't see the problem unless you are simply stating that, yes, ignorance does exist in the world.

In the game lobby, click the player whom you dislike, scroll down to "Report Player" and out of the four options, select the one that says something like "Offensive Player Emblem."

Spoiler: My emblem is...

Despite the simplicity of the image, that picture took nine layers to replicate.

 

[General_Potatoes]

Stuff like this was bound to happen sooner or later.

 

[nitro27]

Hence why I don't play Call of Duty. Also, OP, both the right-facing (offensive) and the left-facing were used as symbols of hope, until the Nazis took the right-facing one; it is only now that Buddhists are having to use the left-facing swastika.

 

[PleasantKenobi]

I wasn't talking about my own views on what is and isn't protected by freedom of speech, I was talking about how many of the European legal systems work, like you would probably know had you spent more then 30 seconds reading what I wrote.

Don?t turn this into a flame war by insulting my ability to read. I do apologise if my prior post appeared aggressive, I was writing it rather hastily. I read your post fully, and understood what you meant. I was under the impression that you were making the example of these laws to further your point of being 'sick' of the incorrect expression of freedom of speech.

I haven?t got time to research the topic fully, but I did upon a very quick google find this on Wikipedia:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freedom_of_speech_by_country#European_Convention_on_Human_Rights

I have not read the entire article, as I haven?t the time this morning, but I do find it interesting that under the heading of European Convention on Human Rights we have a short quoted paragraph on the restrictions. These include aspects, per country, that are prescribed by a court of law in the interest of 'national security, territorial integrity or public safety, for the prevention of disorder or crime, for the protection of health or morals, for the protection of the reputation or the rights of others'.

I would have to argue that a child or otherwise, creating a Swastika emblem on his profile in Black Ops may constitute, very loosely, to 'disorder' or an attack on 'morals'. But ultimately, it is such a minor gesture that I would suggest censorship of such in the public space to be absurd. Of course, we are not talking about the public space, which frames the discussion very differently. I still stand, despite factual information on laws that I have yet to see, that censorship on such a minor level is in fact a hindrance of freedom of speech. Next, we will need to censor novels and movies for their larger and far more evident ideological leanings if a couple of images are so hurtful to the 'rights of others'. If censorship begins somewhere so simple, then where does it end?

 

[Murderiser]

I would have thought the "Everyone using dicks as emblems" would be a bigger problem than "Swastikas as emblems". Then again, what were Treyarch expecting? I love playing online but even I appreciate that 50% of the users are/have the maturity of 10 year olds.

 

[Legendairy314]

Even with restrictions on emblems people still find ways to post idiotic symbols that are supposed to represent them. I can only imagine the number of searches for "How to make a dick emblem in -Insert multiplayer game of choice here-."

 

[PleasantKenobi]

Trying to sell Mein Kampf in ordinary book stores for example, or just trying to distribute it for free for that matter, is a great way to get a fine or even jail time.

If you don't mind me asking, what country is it that you are from? I won't do the research to find out where Mein Kampf is and isn't 'banned', but I will state that I object to its banning entirely. I understand if countries like Germany or Austria are incredibley sensitive about such a subject, but Mein Kampf is as much a historical document as anything else and has plenty of interest in scholars in many fields.

If we were to restrict access of texts such as Mein Kampf for the next generation, we are hindering their understanding of the past. We are creating a painfully bias worldview which I do not agree with at all. It isn't a dangerous artefact taht will infect its readership. It need not be feared.

On a quick search, my University library here in England actually has several copies of two different prints of the book, as well as a critical analysis of it.

 

[PleasantKenobi]

[E]ven today, producing and/or distributing porn in any form is a criminal offense in Iceland and punishable with jail time.

Wow, just... wow. I understand the ethical debate surrounding pornography, to the extent that I agree with a large body of the negative criticism levelled towards the industry and pornography in general. That said, I am alarmed that any civilised country would out right illegalise all forms of it in this way. It makes the illegalisation of Mein Kampf appear relatively un-note worthy. Interesting, never the less. I think we should end this discussion here as we are veering dangerously off topic though. None the less, and without sounding too patronising, information such as this makes me value the freedom of speech allowed here in England.

 

[KaosuHamoni]

Giving people the ability to create there own emblems was bound to end in tears.

What with humanity and all.

Your avatar is made of win. "Wibbly Wobbly... Timey Wimey... Stuff..." xD

 

[AnAngryMoose]

No I think Treyarch should be able to let players customize as much as they want its not there fault that 90% of cod players are immature twats and once those people get banned cod,live,psn and the whole gaming community will be better as a whole.

Couldn't have put it better myself.

 

[kurtzy23]

Give people the smallest amount of freedom and there first instict is to test its boundries and abuse it.

 

[Lord Kloo]

My question is do the people of the escapist think that Treyarch has gone a bit to far with the ability to customize the player card and should have had more of a bungie approach were players can only select from predetermined emblems and backgrounds?

No, they have just allowed people to express what they are through a small piece of artwork.. they fact that they have put a nob on their gun just says something about them...

I personally love it, I have a very nice logo that I'm proud of because I always love my own creations (even when they are crap) and having my name on a gun is pretty awesome as well.. Just me? (customization FTW)

+ banning the Swastika is a bit stupid, oh dear they killed several million civilians (16 million overall I think) and innocents so therefore we must ban their logo, does this mean we have to ban to Soviet hammer and sickle as 1 million died in their gulags each year, or the Allied star as over 17 million German were killed by allied forces during the war and many in allied prison camps(German not necessarily true Nazis)...
Not forgetting the British flag and the empire which is associated with the slave trade, although Tony Blair did apologize for that one....

 

[laststandman]

+ banning the Swastika is a bit stupid, oh dear they killed several million civilians (16 million overall I think) and innocents so therefore we must ban their logo, does this mean we have to ban to Soviet hammer and sickle as 1 million died in their gulags each year, or the Allied star as over 17 million German were killed by allied forces during the war and many in allied prison camps(German not necessarily true Nazis)...
Not forgetting the British flag and the empire which is associated with the slave trade, although Tony Blair did apologize for that one....

The difference is that the Nazis were way more high profile about it than the Soviets or even the British. Plus the civilian killings of the Third Reich occurred over a much shorter time period and are way more associated with their time than either of the two.
Think about it in the eyes of the common person: show them a swastika and they'll associate it with holocaust (i don't jump to that conclusion but that's because I study this stuff). However if you were to show them a hammer and sickle or a british flag, they would not associate them with their atrocities because there is so much time in each of their histories.
I'm not saying I agree with this, but I am saying that I would do the same thing if I were in charge. Appealing to a larger audience means understanding common conceptions, and working with them in mind.

 

[Cecil Sanders]

sounds like a whole lot of you are prejudice against prejudice people which in turn makes you prejudice
its a violent war GAME so while your plowing through gunning down germans,Vietnamese,russians
remember this we live in a society that is easily offended
if you say merry christmas some ones offended if you fart the wrong way some ones offended
but keep in mind it is a 17+ game not meant to mean every one acts like adults but it means there is mature subject matter. the solution is just a power switch away turn it off and you wont be offended
its kinda like walking into a bar and complaining that people are drinking
so you seen a penis with veins or a guy shoving a pickle in a gorillas ass
what did you expect to see emblems of people holding hands or peace and love signs
who cares and if you want to remove prejudice in the world lets start with sanford and son or the jeffersons they say honkey in just about every episode
one last thing
this whole thread offends me
so merry christmas and god bless

 

[dragonslayer32]

about 4 people all had emblems depicting the KKK white hood with the initials on the front. One even had a "No N*****" on it.

How? I thought they didn't have all the letters on the emblem maker...